Lili Krakowski on tue 14 aug 07
Carol.
I hoped that someone with real experience would answer your question about
wax on top of a glaze to make a neat, clear separation from the glaze
applied as a second coat.\
No one has, as far as I know, so I will take a stab at it. When I want
these clear demarcations, and I generally do, I go with slip and use either
a liquid resist or paper. I have used double application glaze ONLY when a
fuzzy line, from the intra penetration of the glazes was wanted/acceptable.
Again--feel free to hate me-- you really should test. Again there are SO
many variables. To make it short--if the glazes are immature they will not
flow, and if they do not flow they will not blur at the edge. So that they
will sit there looking at each other, strangers on two passing trains...no
real merit in using two coats. If they mature well, the first coat will
bubble up and mix with the [at the time] fluid 2nd coat (top layer) I would
not hope for clear line.
Just as I have no idea whether you would like coriander in your chicken
soup, I have no idea what the effect you are after is.
People "resent" it when testing is advised. They think : "Aha those smug
SOBs think they know it all, they do not want to share, they are trying to
get rid of inquirers, they can't be bothered. Etc." Now while I appreciate
paranoia as much as the next person, the resentment is not based on reality.
You would laugh at someone who wrote in to ask: "Should I wear the blue
dress or the rose one to my cousin's wedding?" Well, besides congratulating
the woman for not having to wear a bridesmaid dress, there is nothing we
could say. We have not seen her, we have not seen either dress,. we do not
know how formal the wedding is, and so on.
But what you are asking is pretty much the same. We do not have the
recipes, we do not know what the glazes look like, we do not know how
gaseous they are....And yours is a pretty uncomplicated question.
Ok?
PS I'd go with the blue dress.
Lili Krakowski
Be of good courage
Marcia Selsor on tue 14 aug 07
I missed the original but caught lili's response. To add to her
comments,
Hamada liked using the Archie Bray Liquid wax. It is similar to Amaco
liquid wax.
Brush on over a glaze. Let it dry..overnight is good, and wash uo to
the edges for clear dilineation.
Lili, I have never put coriander in my chicken soup..but I use cloves
stuck into a
whole onion while simmering the stock. Nice to be back.
Marcia
Marcia Selsor
http://marciaselsor.com
Michael Wendt on wed 15 aug 07
Wax on glaze:
There are several very nice effects that come
from wax on glaze followed by a second coat
of another glaze. The little beads of glaze that
cling to the waxed area can either be washed
away carefully or left as a decorative element.
The overlay glaze is often brushed on for added
effect and may even be streaky.
If you want high precision with little blurring,
glaze inlay is the way to go. With inlay, a
glaze is applied, wax overlaid and the unwanted
glaze carefully washed off the pot. It is then
allowed to dry a day and glaze of another
color can be applied. It will stick where there
is no wax.
Inlay can be quite intricate and each color
butts up to but does not overlap the
adjacent glazes.
Michael Wendt
Wendt Pottery
2729 Clearwater Ave.
Lewiston, Id 83501
U.S.A.
208-746-3724
wendtpot@lewiston.com
http://www.wendtpottery.com
http://UniquePorcelainDesigns.com
Patty Kaliher on wed 15 aug 07
Just finished a workshop on wax resist techniques at Georgie's Ceramic
Supply in Portland, Oregon. We used the Aftosa wax over the first coat of
glaze. Let dry overnight before carving through the wax and glaze to get an
inlay of the second glaze or a second coat where there is no wax.
Good Luck,
Patty Kaliher
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Lili Krakowski
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 5:31 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: About wax on glaze
Carol.
I hoped that someone with real experience would answer your question about
wax on top of a glaze to make a neat, clear separation from the glaze
applied as a second coat.\
No one has, as far as I know, so I will take a stab at it. When I want
these clear demarcations, and I generally do, I go with slip and use either
a liquid resist or paper. I have used double application glaze ONLY when a
fuzzy line, from the intra penetration of the glazes was wanted/acceptable.
Again--feel free to hate me-- you really should test. Again there are SO
many variables. To make it short--if the glazes are immature they will not
flow, and if they do not flow they will not blur at the edge. So that they
will sit there looking at each other, strangers on two passing trains...no
real merit in using two coats. If they mature well, the first coat will
bubble up and mix with the [at the time] fluid 2nd coat (top layer) I would
not hope for clear line.
Just as I have no idea whether you would like coriander in your chicken
soup, I have no idea what the effect you are after is.
People "resent" it when testing is advised. They think : "Aha those smug
SOBs think they know it all, they do not want to share, they are trying to
get rid of inquirers, they can't be bothered. Etc." Now while I appreciate
paranoia as much as the next person, the resentment is not based on reality.
You would laugh at someone who wrote in to ask: "Should I wear the blue
dress or the rose one to my cousin's wedding?" Well, besides congratulating
the woman for not having to wear a bridesmaid dress, there is nothing we
could say. We have not seen her, we have not seen either dress,. we do not
know how formal the wedding is, and so on.
But what you are asking is pretty much the same. We do not have the
recipes, we do not know what the glazes look like, we do not know how
gaseous they are....And yours is a pretty uncomplicated question.
Ok?
PS I'd go with the blue dress.
Lili Krakowski
Be of good courage
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Terrance Lazaroff on wed 15 aug 07
Interested in wax resist work? Take a look at this site.
http://ceramicstudio.ca/
Terrance
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