Lynn Goodman Porcelain Pottery on mon 3 sep 07
On Sep 3, 2007, at 10:07 PM, Joan Klotz wrote:
> This evening I received a threatening email in which "Santa Marin"
> claims that he has been paid to "terminate" me. He claims to have
> pity for me and will not carry out the contract if I agree to meet
> him, but first I must pay him $6000. He warns that if I contact the
> police, or tell anyone (including my husband) he will be forced to
> kill me. The message was sent to "Recipient List Suppressed". Did
> anyone else on the list get such a message ?- I do not have much
> email interaction with others, other than Clayart. What to do? My
> husband called the local police who gave him the telephone number of
> the local "Counter Terrorism" group. No one answers the phone there
> - it seems they are closed for the weekend - big comfort there
> too. Oh for the good old days of the straight ahead Nigerian scam.
>
> Joan Klotz,
Joan,
I would contact the FBI. They are trained to deal with terroristic
threats, and (what is probably the case here) fraud. Good luck--
please keep us informed.
Lynn
Lynn Goodman
Fine Porcelain Pottery
Cell 347-526-9805
www.lynngoodmanporcelain.com
Victoria E. Hamilton on mon 3 sep 07
Joan,
I received an email from this person in the past few days. I did not open
it - just deleted it. I'm glad I did.
I don't know anything to do other than what you've already done.
Vicki Hamilton
Seattle, WA
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Joan Klotz
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 7:08 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: [CLAYART] Threatening email
This evening I received a threatening email in which "Santa Marin"
claims that he has been paid to "terminate" me. He claims to have pity for
me and will not carry out the contract if I agree to meet him, but first I
must pay him $6000. He warns that if I contact the police, or tell anyone
(including my husband) he will be forced to kill me. The message was sent
to "Recipient List Suppressed". Did anyone else on the list get such a
message ?- I do not have much email interaction with others, other than
Clayart. What to do? My husband called the local police who gave him the
telephone number of the local "Counter Terrorism" group. No one answers the
phone there
- it seems they are closed for the weekend - big comfort there too. Oh for
the good old days of the straight ahead Nigerian scam.
Joan Klotz,
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Joan Klotz on mon 3 sep 07
This evening I received a threatening email in which "Santa Marin"
claims that he has been paid to "terminate" me. He claims to have
pity for me and will not carry out the contract if I agree to meet
him, but first I must pay him $6000. He warns that if I contact the
police, or tell anyone (including my husband) he will be forced to
kill me. The message was sent to "Recipient List Suppressed". Did
anyone else on the list get such a message ?- I do not have much
email interaction with others, other than Clayart. What to do? My
husband called the local police who gave him the telephone number of
the local "Counter Terrorism" group. No one answers the phone there
- it seems they are closed for the weekend - big comfort there
too. Oh for the good old days of the straight ahead Nigerian scam.
Joan Klotz,
pam blessinger on tue 4 sep 07
Lynn:
I got the same email. I remember reading about it, its a scam. Don't worry.
I now scan the senders names before I openany email. Crazy times reqiires caution!
Cheers,
Pam
Lynn Goodman Porcelain Pottery wrote:
On Sep 3, 2007, at 10:07 PM, Joan Klotz wrote:
> This evening I received a threatening email in which "Santa Marin"
> claims that he has been paid to "terminate" me. He claims to have
> pity for me and will not carry out the contract if I agree to meet
> him, but first I must pay him $6000. He warns that if I contact the
> police, or tell anyone (including my husband) he will be forced to
> kill me. The message was sent to "Recipient List Suppressed". Did
> anyone else on the list get such a message ?- I do not have much
> email interaction with others, other than Clayart. What to do? My
> husband called the local police who gave him the telephone number of
> the local "Counter Terrorism" group. No one answers the phone there
> - it seems they are closed for the weekend - big comfort there
> too. Oh for the good old days of the straight ahead Nigerian scam.
>
> Joan Klotz,
Joan,
I would contact the FBI. They are trained to deal with terroristic
threats, and (what is probably the case here) fraud. Good luck--
please keep us informed.
Lynn
Lynn Goodman
Fine Porcelain Pottery
Cell 347-526-9805
www.lynngoodmanporcelain.com
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Frank Gaydos on tue 4 sep 07
Joan,
Not to worry. This scam is becoming more common. They just want to get your
attention.
See: http://redtape.msnbc.com/2007/05/email_threatens.html
Report to: http://www.ic3.gov/
Frank Gaydos
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynn Goodman Porcelain Pottery"
To:
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: Threatening email
> On Sep 3, 2007, at 10:07 PM, Joan Klotz wrote:
>
>> This evening I received a threatening email in which "Santa Marin"
>> claims that he has been paid to "terminate" me. He claims to have
>> pity for me and will not carry out the contract if I agree to meet
>> him, but first I must pay him $6000. He warns that if I contact the
>> police, or tell anyone (including my husband) he will be forced to
>> kill me. The message was sent to "Recipient List Suppressed". Did
>> anyone else on the list get such a message ?- I do not have much
>> email interaction with others, other than Clayart. What to do? My
>> husband called the local police who gave him the telephone number of
>> the local "Counter Terrorism" group. No one answers the phone there
>> - it seems they are closed for the weekend - big comfort there
>> too. Oh for the good old days of the straight ahead Nigerian scam.
>>
>> Joan Klotz,
>
> Joan,
>
> I would contact the FBI. They are trained to deal with terroristic
> threats, and (what is probably the case here) fraud. Good luck--
> please keep us informed.
>
> Lynn
>
>
> Lynn Goodman
> Fine Porcelain Pottery
> Cell 347-526-9805
> www.lynngoodmanporcelain.com
>
> ______________________________________________________________________________
Jennifer Boyer on tue 4 sep 07
I got it too. But there's no use putting ANY effort or thought into
these things! You have to figure they are all scams. Delete and
forget. Even the ones that seem to come from your own bank.
Too bad it's come to this..
Jennifer
On Sep 4, 2007, at 7:57 AM, Frank Gaydos wrote:
> Joan,
> Not to worry. This scam is becoming more common. They just want to
> get your
> attention.
> See: http://redtape.msnbc.com/2007/05/email_threatens.html
>
> Report to: http://www.ic3.gov/
>
> Frank Gaydos
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lynn Goodman Porcelain Pottery"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 11:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Threatening email
>
>
>> On Sep 3, 2007, at 10:07 PM, Joan Klotz wrote:
>>
>>> This evening I received a threatening email in which "Santa Marin"
>>> claims that he has been paid to "terminate" me. He claims to have
>>> pity for me and will not carry out the contract if I agree to meet
>>> him, but first I must pay him $6000. He warns that if I contact the
>>> police, or tell anyone (including my husband) he will be forced to
>>> kill me. The message was sent to "Recipient List Suppressed". Did
>>> anyone else on the list get such a message ?- I do not have much
>>> email interaction with others, other than Clayart. What to do? My
>>> husband called the local police who gave him the telephone number of
>>> the local "Counter Terrorism" group. No one answers the phone there
>>> - it seems they are closed for the weekend - big comfort there
>>> too. Oh for the good old days of the straight ahead Nigerian scam.
>>>
>>> Joan Klotz,
>>
>> Joan,
>>
>> I would contact the FBI. They are trained to deal with terroristic
>> threats, and (what is probably the case here) fraud. Good luck--
>> please keep us informed.
>>
>> Lynn
>>
>>
>> Lynn Goodman
>> Fine Porcelain Pottery
>> Cell 347-526-9805
>> www.lynngoodmanporcelain.com
>>
>> _____________________________________________________________________
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*****************************
Jennifer Boyer
Thistle Hill Pottery
Montpelier, VT
http://thistlehillpottery.com
*****************************
JoAnne Willemsen on tue 4 sep 07
Yeah, I got one too. I just deleted it without opening it. Jo=0D=0A=
Arnold Howard on tue 4 sep 07
From: "Joan Klotz"
> This evening I received a threatening email in which
> "Santa Marin"
> claims that he has been paid to "terminate" me.
The goal of that email is to steal your money and, if that
fails, to at least frighten you. If you are frightened, the
sociopath who wrote the email has achieved his goal and won.
That's why I try not to get annoyed with spam. The goal is
to steal money and, failing that, to at least anger us. I
don't want them to win.
Sincerely,
Arnold Howard
Paragon Industries, L.P., Mesquite, Texas USA
ahoward@paragonweb.com / www.paragonweb.com
Edouard Bastarache Inc. on tue 4 sep 07
Just another asshole on the Net.
Gis la revido,
(A la revoyure)
Edouard Bastarache
Spertesperantisto
Sorel-Tracy
Quebec
http://perso.orange.fr/smart2000/livres.htm
http://www.pshcanada.com/Toxicology.htm
http://www.ceramique.com/librairie/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30058682@N00/
http://myblogsmesblogs.blogspot.com/
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Gaydos"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 7:57 AM
Subject: Re: Threatening email
> Joan,
> Not to worry. This scam is becoming more common.
> They just want to get your
> attention.
> See:
> http://redtape.msnbc.com/2007/05/email_threatens.html
>
> Report to: http://www.ic3.gov/
>
> Frank Gaydos
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lynn Goodman Porcelain Pottery"
>
> To:
> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 11:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Threatening email
>
>
>> On Sep 3, 2007, at 10:07 PM, Joan Klotz wrote:
>>
>>> This evening I received a threatening email in
>>> which "Santa Marin"
>>> claims that he has been paid to "terminate"
>>> me. He claims to have
>>> pity for me and will not carry out the
>>> contract if I agree to meet
>>> him, but first I must pay him $6000. He warns
>>> that if I contact the
>>> police, or tell anyone (including my husband)
>>> he will be forced to
>>> kill me. The message was sent to "Recipient
>>> List Suppressed". Did
>>> anyone else on the list get such a message ?-
>>> I do not have much
>>> email interaction with others, other than
>>> Clayart. What to do? My
>>> husband called the local police who gave him
>>> the telephone number of
>>> the local "Counter Terrorism" group. No one
>>> answers the phone there
>>> - it seems they are closed for the weekend -
>>> big comfort there
>>> too. Oh for the good old days of the straight
>>> ahead Nigerian scam.
>>>
>>> Joan Klotz,
>>
>> Joan,
>>
>> I would contact the FBI. They are trained to
>> deal with terroristic
>> threats, and (what is probably the case here)
>> fraud. Good luck--
>> please keep us informed.
>>
>> Lynn
>>
>>
>> Lynn Goodman
>> Fine Porcelain Pottery
>> Cell 347-526-9805
>> www.lynngoodmanporcelain.com
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________________________
>
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Joan Klotz on tue 4 sep 07
Thank you to everyone who responded to my somewhat neurotic message
of yesterday - both on and off list. Clayarters are such a nice,
warm, supportive group of people. Since some people asked to be
informed of the outcome - my husband phoned the local FBI office and
they recognized the scam. A warning about just this message is
posted on their website
http://www.fbi.gov/cyberinvest/escams.htm. There they say "If you
have experienced this situation, please notify your local, state, or
federal law enforcement agency immediately. Also, please notify the
IC3 by filing a complaint at www.ic3.gov." We did as we were told
but, being a morning person, I must admit that I wasn't as freaked
out this morning as I was last night, and in addition there were all
those nice comforting messages from Clayart. I did notice that all
of the people who say they received the message, both on and off
list, were women, I guess we are seen as more vulnerable. Since the
scam has been around since December of 2006 finding the creep(s)
responsible doesn't seem too promising.
Thanks again,
Joan Klotz.
Nancy Guido on wed 5 sep 07
I also received the threatening email from an "Italian citizen" who was contracted for $45,000 to assassinate me. He had only been paid $25,000 and was due $20,000. He wanted to meet me to see why his employers wanted me killed.
I read this email while I was on vacation in Italy. At first I was a bit disturbed, but realized he was in America. Then I was insulted that I was only worth $45,000. I also felt he should contact all of my Nigerian friends who are offering me billions and in fact just the other day I WON the Spanish Lottery (along with many other lotteries in the UK). And, just who are those people who have me in their will....
Our emails are culled from the internet from any discussion list you may belong to. I have since changed my email address for my friends. This email address is the only one to receive the spam and lately there has been an awful lot.
And, while my husband and I were in Italy (apparently avoiding my personal assassin) I DID visit Tuscany and I DID visit La Meridiana - I'm saving up for a workshop. It is an undescribable region.
Nancy Guido
Alive and Well in Michigan
Lois Ruben Aronow on wed 5 sep 07
It's funny - the Royal Palace of Jordan stopped calling me after we did a
search on the US lawyer who contacted me (as their agent). My husband is a
lawyer, and has access to various legal databases.
Funny - the lawyer's website seems to have been taken down, and no one
answers their phone anymore.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of
> Nancy Guido
> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 8:28 AM
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: Threatening email
>
> I also received the threatening email from an "Italian
> citizen" who was contracted for $45,000 to assassinate me.
> He had only been paid $25,000 and was due $20,000. He wanted
> to meet me to see why his employers wanted me killed.
>
> I read this email while I was on vacation in Italy. At first
> I was a bit disturbed, but realized he was in America. Then
> I was insulted that I was only worth $45,000. I also felt he
> should contact all of my Nigerian friends who are offering me
> billions and in fact just the other day I WON the Spanish
> Lottery (along with many other lotteries in the UK). And,
> just who are those people who have me in their will....
>
> Our emails are culled from the internet from any discussion
> list you may belong to. I have since changed my email
> address for my friends. This email address is the only one
> to receive the spam and lately there has been an awful lot.
>
> And, while my husband and I were in Italy (apparently
> avoiding my personal assassin) I DID visit Tuscany and I DID
> visit La Meridiana - I'm saving up for a workshop. It is an
> undescribable region.
>
> Nancy Guido
> Alive and Well in Michigan
>
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Lois Ruben Aronow on wed 5 sep 07
FWIW, I understand totally. I was really freaked out when one of them
called me on the phone. From overseas. A lot.
I am used to the spams, the scams, know not to click on any links...and yet,
there is such a thin line that is crossed when the scammer makes it
personal.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of
> Joan Klotz
> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 10:53 PM
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: Re: threatening email
>
> Thank you to everyone who responded to my somewhat neurotic
> message of yesterday - both on and off list. Clayarters are
> such a nice, warm, supportive group of people. Since some
> people asked to be informed of the outcome - my husband
> phoned the local FBI office and they recognized the scam. A
> warning about just this message is posted on their website
> http://www.fbi.gov/cyberinvest/escams.htm. There they say
> "If you have experienced this situation, please notify your
> local, state, or federal law enforcement agency immediately.
> Also, please notify the
> IC3 by filing a complaint at www.ic3.gov." We did as we were
> told but, being a morning person, I must admit that I wasn't
> as freaked out this morning as I was last night, and in
> addition there were all those nice comforting messages from
> Clayart. I did notice that all of the people who say they
> received the message, both on and off list, were women, I
> guess we are seen as more vulnerable. Since the scam has
> been around since December of 2006 finding the creep(s)
> responsible doesn't seem too promising.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Joan Klotz.
>
> ______________________________________________________________
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Jeanette Harris on thu 7 feb 08
I received a threatening email this morning from william1111@live.com
threatening to kill me if I didn't pay $30,000. From the poor English
and stupidity of the writing, it's probably from out of the country.
Did anyone on CLAYART get the same thing?
--
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Washingzona
A Kettner on thu 7 feb 08
Heard about this one on NPR, It is a scam!
The scam artist sends the e-mail or letter to the target stating that he or
she has been hired to kill the person for reasons that the scam artist will
not reveal. The scam artist claims to have been stalking them for some
period of time, suggesting that they know about their daily movements. This,
of course, could frighten any person considerably. The sender of the letter
(scam artist) then claims that he or she has decided not to follow through
with the contract to kill. Rather, the sender claims to want to help the
victim by giving the victim a taped conversation where the sender of the
letter agreed to kill the victim.
The scam artist urges the victim to use this tape as evidence to prosecute
the unknown individual who hired the killer (who is really the scam artist).
The unknown individual who hired the killer (who is really the scam artist).
The scam artist offers to deliver the taped conversation once a down payment
has been made. The press release does not indicate what kind of payment is
being demanded by these scammers. It is probably safe to assume that the
amount varies depending on the perceived level of wealth of the targeted
victim. This demand of payment is often followed by another message through
e-mail or regular mail that reprimands the victim for contacting law
enforcement and threatens to follow through with the killing. This second
message gives the victim one last chance to comply with the payment demand.
Good luck
Arthur
On 2/7/08, Jeanette Harris wrote:
>
> I received a threatening email this morning from william1111@live.com
> threatening to kill me if I didn't pay $30,000. From the poor English
> and stupidity of the writing, it's probably from out of the country.
>
> Did anyone on CLAYART get the same thing?
>
>
> --
> http://jeanetteharrisblog.blogspot.com/
>
>
> http://www.washingtonpotters.org/members/Jeanette_Harris/wpa_jeanette_harris.htm
>
> Jeanette Harris
> Washingzona
>
>
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Maid O'Mud on thu 7 feb 08
Yes, I reported it to gmail and the OPP (Ontario Provincial Police).
OPP says it's the latest internet scam. Damn scary scam if you ask me!!
Sam Cuttell
Maid O'Mud Pottery
RR 1
Melbourne, Ontario
N0L 1T0
CANADA
"First, the clay told me what to do.
Then, I told the clay what to do.
Now, we co-operate."
sam 1994
http://www.ody.ca/~scuttell/
scuttell@ody.ca
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Jeanette Harris
Sent: February 7, 2008 9:34 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Threatening email
I received a threatening email this morning from william1111@live.com
threatening to kill me if I didn't pay $30,000. From the poor English and
stupidity of the writing, it's probably from out of the country.
Did anyone on CLAYART get the same thing?
--
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http://www.washingtonpotters.org/members/Jeanette_Harris/wpa_jeanette_harris
.htm
Jeanette Harris
Washingzona
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Bruce Girrell on thu 7 feb 08
Jeanette Harris wrote:
> I received a threatening email this morning from william1111@live.com
> threatening to kill me if I didn't pay $30,000.
I got it too, but don't immediately blame Clayart. There are lots of other
sources for email addresses.
I found the concept of issuing a death threat via email (and, of course
providing an email return address for you to respond) somewhat amusing.
Unfortunately, there will be those who won't know how ridiculous such a
thing is.
It would be good for this one to be reported to authorities, but I'm not
sure where to start with that. Since it's being distributed throughout the
country, probably the FBI is the proper place. Anyone out there in law
enforcement? What is the proper action?
Bruce Girrell
Arnold Howard on thu 7 feb 08
From: "A Kettner"
> The scam artist sends the e-mail or letter to the target
> stating that he or
> she has been hired to kill the person for reasons that the
> scam artist will
> not reveal. The scam artist claims to have been stalking
> them for some
> period of time, suggesting that they know about their
> daily movements.
Some spam artists have contacts who live in the U.S. and who
can actually show up on your doorstep. This could be
dangerous. But this would happen only if you opened the spam
and replied.
Criminals send out the same threatening letter to thousands
if not millions and await a response. You are perfectly safe
as long as you delete the message without opening, let alone
replying. Also, set your email system on "text only."
Because I've read email for so long, I can spot a spam
almost instantly just by the subject line. I'm sure most on
Clayart have the same ability.
Sincerely,
Arnold Howard
Paragon Industries, L.P., Mesquite, Texas USA
ahoward@paragonweb.com / www.paragonweb.com
Lois Ruben Aronow on thu 7 feb 08
creepy. That would be a tad more exciting than the "your penis could be
larger" emails i always get. And I don't even have a penis.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of
> Jeanette Harris
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:34 AM
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: Threatening email
>
> I received a threatening email this morning from
> william1111@live.com threatening to kill me if I didn't pay
> $30,000. From the poor English and stupidity of the writing,
> it's probably from out of the country.
>
> Did anyone on CLAYART get the same thing?
>
>
> --
> http://jeanetteharrisblog.blogspot.com/
>
> http://www.washingtonpotters.org/members/Jeanette_Harris/wpa_j
> eanette_harris.htm
>
> Jeanette Harris
> Washingzona
>
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penni stoddart on thu 7 feb 08
I received this spam about 6 months ago on my other email addy. I figured it
was spam but it scared me so I called the police. A local officer came over
and took a look and agreed that it is spam. It has been tracked to somewhere
in the middle east (can't remember right now where exactly) but then they
lost it.
Unfortunately this spam cost one local elderly man about $36,000. He sent
the initial amount then kept being asked for more and more. Finally he or
someone near him woke up and called the cops. He is out that money - gone.
I have not received it again since but will delete it right away if I do.
The police officer who spoke to my husband and I said we should worry when
the email contains specifics (address, kids' names, what you look like -
that sort of stuff). Otherwise it is just too general and just a scam.
Penni Stoddart
London, Ontario
Forgive your enemies. It messes with their heads.
Mike Gordon on thu 7 feb 08
FBI is where it should be reported, I seem to remember a web site
listed sometime ago I'll see if I can retrieve it, Mike Gordon
On Feb 7, 2008, at 8:32 AM, Bruce Girrell wrote:
> Jeanette Harris wrote:
>> I received a threatening email this morning from william1111@live.com
>> threatening to kill me if I didn't pay $30,000.
>
>
> I got it too, but don't immediately blame Clayart. There are lots of
> other
> sources for email addresses.
>
> I found the concept of issuing a death threat via email (and, of course
> providing an email return address for you to respond) somewhat amusing.
> Unfortunately, there will be those who won't know how ridiculous such a
> thing is.
>
> It would be good for this one to be reported to authorities, but I'm
> not
> sure where to start with that. Since it's being distributed throughout
> the
> country, probably the FBI is the proper place. Anyone out there in law
> enforcement? What is the proper action?
>
> Bruce Girrell
>
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Jeanette Harris on thu 7 feb 08
Yeah, Arthur,
It's obviously a scam--I was just wondering if it slimed in on the
tails of CLAYART or Comcast or somewhere else.
It's too utterly stupid to be believed. ;)
>Heard about this one on NPR, It is a scam!
>
>The scam artist sends the e-mail or letter to the target stating that he or
>she has been hired to kill the person for reasons that the scam artist will
>not reveal. The scam artist claims to have been stalking them for some
>period of time, suggesting that they know about their daily movements. This,
>of course, could frighten any person considerably. The sender of the letter
>(scam artist) then claims that he or she has decided not to follow through
>with the contract to kill. Rather, the sender claims to want to help the
>victim by giving the victim a taped conversation where the sender of the
>letter agreed to kill the victim.
>
>The scam artist urges the victim to use this tape as evidence to prosecute
>the unknown individual who hired the killer (who is really the scam artist).
>The unknown individual who hired the killer (who is really the scam artist).
>The scam artist offers to deliver the taped conversation once a down payment
>has been made. The press release does not indicate what kind of payment is
>being demanded by these scammers. It is probably safe to assume that the
>amount varies depending on the perceived level of wealth of the targeted
>victim. This demand of payment is often followed by another message through
>e-mail or regular mail that reprimands the victim for contacting law
>enforcement and threatens to follow through with the killing. This second
>message gives the victim one last chance to comply with the payment demand.
>
>Good luck
>Arthur
>
>On 2/7/08, Jeanette Harris wrote:
>>
>> I received a threatening email this morning from william1111@live.com
>> threatening to kill me if I didn't pay $30,000. From the poor English
>> and stupidity of the writing, it's probably from out of the country.
>>
>> Did anyone on CLAYART get the same thing?
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>http://www.washingtonpotters.org/members/Jeanette_Harris/wpa_jeanette_harris.htm
>>
>> Jeanette Harris
>> Washingzona
>>
>>
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Joseph Herbert on fri 8 feb 08
One thing that puts the lie to the scam is the demand for $30,000.
From a potter?
Really?!
Joe
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Lee on fri 8 feb 08
On Feb 7, 2008 11:33 PM, Jeanette Harris wrote:
> I received a threatening email this morning from william1111@live.com
> threatening to kill me if I didn't pay $30,000. From the poor English
> and stupidity of the writing, it's probably from out of the country.
>
>
I searched and found something talking about this email from Hungary:
http://dansdata.blogsome.com/2008/02/04/i-bet-my-aunt-called-in-the-hit/
If you take a string from the message, you get over 500,000 hits:
http://www.google.com/search?q=I+am+very+sorry+for+you%2C+is+a+pity+that+this+is+how+your+life+is+going+to&sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1B3GGGL_enJP176JP206
Don't take it personal. Don't answer. Just delete.
--
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tea. Then you drink it properly. That is all you need to know."
--Sen No Rikyu
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