Claudia MacPhee on fri 7 sep 07
Just finished adding 26" to my kiln's chimney. When my husband built the kiln shed (in July) he ended up making it a bit taller than the original plan....so it was only 2" past the peak. It had worked wonderfully up to this point. So. I only had an 10 ft. step ladder. Drove my buddie's ancient 4x4 truck 'old blue' an inch from the chimney, put the ladder in it, secured with bunggie cords, got a young friend to come over for a couple of hours, hauled a bucket of mortar to the top of the ladder. Got the level and my little 4 lb sledge hammer too. My friend handed up 6 bricks at a time and held the ladder.
Wasn't the best job in the world, the cant leans in the direction the wind blows, just like the local trees! Will be firing again next weekend, can't wait!!!!!
Claudia MacPhee, Tagish,Yukon
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Paul Haigh on fri 7 sep 07
I'm up to 7' on my chimney build, which is about where things get inconvenient to reach. It looks like a scaffold will be pretty expensive to rent. What have others done? Stepladders and planks? Stand on the chimney as you build?
Oi. 8 feet to go.
David Hendley on fri 7 sep 07
You're going to need a roof over your kiln, aren't you?
Build the shed first and then you can stand on the roof.
David Hendley
Maydelle, Texas
david(at)farmpots(dot)com
http://www.farmpots.com
----- Original Message -----
> I'm up to 7' on my chimney build, which is about where things get
> inconvenient to reach. It looks like a scaffold will be pretty expensive
> to rent. What have others done? Stepladders and planks? Stand on the
> chimney as you build?
Frank Colson on fri 7 sep 07
Hug! I can just feel the ache in my back just reading your description.
That's why I switched to compressed ceramic fiber cylinders (1' high x 1'
dia) stacked as high as needed. I've built doz's of downdraft kilns with
15' high "chimney". It was always a breeze! As far as stability, no sweat!
Had
a huricane blow through here couple of yr's ago. Didn't even phase the
installation.
I realize this info won't help you at this stage but for those who what to
know where to order these
gems (4 units to a box), one source is: www.hwr.com They are a hell of a
lot cheaper than chiropractic
appointments, or back surgrey.
Frank Colson
www.R2D2u.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eva Gallagher"
To:
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: scaffolding for chimney??
> Hi Paul - for the first 9 -10 feet I used my concrete blocks that I later
> used as a base for the rest of the kiln. I piled up the blocks three deep,
> alternating gaps and bridging so that they would go further. For the top I
> then bridged with wooden planks. The blocks were very stable. After that I
> was lucky in that the shed roof had cross beams that I could put a
> platform
> on. Though it was tight working between the chimney and roof edge until I
> got above the roof somewhat. Now however for the last 3 feet I have an
> insulated stainless steel chimney section which is very heavy and needs to
> be lifted up onto the roof to put it in place - that will be an
> engineering
> challenge. It will give me 15 1/2 feet in total but better taller than
> shorter. Never realized how much work building a chimney is - the most I
> could do was about 80 bricks a day.
> Good luck - be sure to get a pulley system to bring up the bricks if you
> put
> up scaffolding - I doubt that my fingers would have lasted otherwise.
> Eva Gallagher
> Deep River, Ontario
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Haigh"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 2:36 PM
> Subject: scaffolding for chimney??
>
>
>> I'm up to 7' on my chimney build, which is about where things get
>> inconvenient to reach. It looks like a scaffold will be pretty expensive
>> to rent. What have others done? Stepladders and planks? Stand on the
>> chimney as you build?
>>
>> Oi. 8 feet to go.
>>
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Eva Gallagher on fri 7 sep 07
Hi Paul - for the first 9 -10 feet I used my concrete blocks that I later
used as a base for the rest of the kiln. I piled up the blocks three deep,
alternating gaps and bridging so that they would go further. For the top I
then bridged with wooden planks. The blocks were very stable. After that I
was lucky in that the shed roof had cross beams that I could put a platform
on. Though it was tight working between the chimney and roof edge until I
got above the roof somewhat. Now however for the last 3 feet I have an
insulated stainless steel chimney section which is very heavy and needs to
be lifted up onto the roof to put it in place - that will be an engineering
challenge. It will give me 15 1/2 feet in total but better taller than
shorter. Never realized how much work building a chimney is - the most I
could do was about 80 bricks a day.
Good luck - be sure to get a pulley system to bring up the bricks if you put
up scaffolding - I doubt that my fingers would have lasted otherwise.
Eva Gallagher
Deep River, Ontario
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Haigh"
To:
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 2:36 PM
Subject: scaffolding for chimney??
> I'm up to 7' on my chimney build, which is about where things get
> inconvenient to reach. It looks like a scaffold will be pretty expensive
> to rent. What have others done? Stepladders and planks? Stand on the
> chimney as you build?
>
> Oi. 8 feet to go.
>
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WJ Seidl on fri 7 sep 07
How about a sky hook, Paul?
Seriously though...
how much is a fall going to cost you that breaks your neck, or your
back, keeps you out of work for a year, or kills you?
Play safe. You will only rent that scaffold ONCE if you build that
chimney properly.
Consider it money well spent. Besides, with a scaffold, you can place
building materials within reach.
Going up and down a ladder all day carrying bricks is exactly what I
would need to piss me off, wear me out,
and (ahem) "make me cranky"...just ask my partner
Don't do it. Rent the scaffold, build a support platform, or check with
a local builder and see if they have one they can "lend" you cheaper.
If you want to recoup the cost, add a buck to the price of every pot
that comes out of that kiln for a year or so.
Best,
Wayne Seidl
who stood on the chimney and top of the kiln to help build it, and will
_never_ do it again. Mel made me promise.
Paul Haigh wrote:
> I'm up to 7' on my chimney build, which is about where things get inconvenient to reach. It looks like a scaffold will be pretty expensive to rent. What have others done? Stepladders and planks? Stand on the chimney as you build?
>
> Oi. 8 feet to go.
>
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pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on fri 7 sep 07
Hi Paul,
Can you post a link to some images of what you are doing?
You are making a 15 Foot Masonry Chimney for your Kiln?
Phil
l v
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Haigh"
> I'm up to 7' on my chimney build, which is about where things get
> inconvenient to reach. It looks like a scaffold will be pretty expensive
> to rent. What have others done? Stepladders and planks? Stand on the
> chimney as you build?
>
> Oi. 8 feet to go.
Eva Gallagher on sun 9 sep 07
Hello Frank - I know it was hard work, but building the chimney and looking
at it now, it has really given me a great feeling of accomplishment. I feel
really proud that I built it straight and all level - never having laid a
single brick before in my life. This would not have been the case in my
twenties but in my 60's it's been great. I take great joy in being healthy
enough to still being able to built it - everytime I heft a brick I feel
lucky. So many of my contemporaries are no longer active or have passed
away. Some of my firends even pay to get excercise - why do that when you
can get it for free building a chimney!!.
But if my chimney falls down next spring due to insufficient foundation - I
may take up your suggestion.
Regards,
Eva Gallagher,
Deep River, Ontario
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Colson"
To:
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: scaffolding for chimney??
> Hug! I can just feel the ache in my back just reading your description.
> That's why I switched to compressed ceramic fiber cylinders (1' high x 1'
> dia) stacked as high as needed. I've built doz's of downdraft kilns with
> 15' high "chimney". It was always a breeze! As far as stability, no
> sweat!
> Had
> a huricane blow through here couple of yr's ago. Didn't even phase the
> installation.
>
> I realize this info won't help you at this stage but for those who what to
> know where to order these
> gems (4 units to a box), one source is: www.hwr.com They are a hell of a
> lot cheaper than chiropractic
> appointments, or back surgrey.
>
> Frank Colson
> www.R2D2u.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eva Gallagher"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 3:54 PM
> Subject: Re: scaffolding for chimney??
>
>
>> Hi Paul - for the first 9 -10 feet I used my concrete blocks that I later
>> used as a base for the rest of the kiln. I piled up the blocks three
>> deep,
>> alternating gaps and bridging so that they would go further. For the top
>> I
>> then bridged with wooden planks. The blocks were very stable. After that
>> I
>> was lucky in that the shed roof had cross beams that I could put a
>> platform
>> on. Though it was tight working between the chimney and roof edge until I
>> got above the roof somewhat. Now however for the last 3 feet I have an
>> insulated stainless steel chimney section which is very heavy and needs
>> to
>> be lifted up onto the roof to put it in place - that will be an
>> engineering
>> challenge. It will give me 15 1/2 feet in total but better taller than
>> shorter. Never realized how much work building a chimney is - the most I
>> could do was about 80 bricks a day.
>> Good luck - be sure to get a pulley system to bring up the bricks if you
>> put
>> up scaffolding - I doubt that my fingers would have lasted otherwise.
>> Eva Gallagher
>> Deep River, Ontario
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Paul Haigh"
>> To:
>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 2:36 PM
>> Subject: scaffolding for chimney??
>>
>>
>>> I'm up to 7' on my chimney build, which is about where things get
>>> inconvenient to reach. It looks like a scaffold will be pretty
>>> expensive
>>> to rent. What have others done? Stepladders and planks? Stand on the
>>> chimney as you build?
>>>
>>> Oi. 8 feet to go.
>>>
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Frank Colson on sun 9 sep 07
Eva- My only quip is you are saying all this on a post with some 3000
possible viewers into pottery.
You are sending a message to many who could well rack up their back when
there exists an easier way
which might avoid a mishap. You are obiously in great physical shape! It
just seems that it make more sense, than senseless, to accomplish those
tasks at a qulified gym.
Frank Colson
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eva Gallagher"
To:
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: scaffolding for chimney??
> Hello Frank - I know it was hard work, but building the chimney and
> looking
> at it now, it has really given me a great feeling of accomplishment. I
> feel
> really proud that I built it straight and all level - never having laid a
> single brick before in my life. This would not have been the case in my
> twenties but in my 60's it's been great. I take great joy in being healthy
> enough to still being able to built it - everytime I heft a brick I feel
> lucky. So many of my contemporaries are no longer active or have passed
> away. Some of my firends even pay to get excercise - why do that when you
> can get it for free building a chimney!!.
> But if my chimney falls down next spring due to insufficient foundation -
> I
> may take up your suggestion.
> Regards,
> Eva Gallagher,
> Deep River, Ontario
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Frank Colson"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 9:16 PM
> Subject: Re: scaffolding for chimney??
>
>
>> Hug! I can just feel the ache in my back just reading your description.
>> That's why I switched to compressed ceramic fiber cylinders (1' high x 1'
>> dia) stacked as high as needed. I've built doz's of downdraft kilns with
>> 15' high "chimney". It was always a breeze! As far as stability, no
>> sweat!
>> Had
>> a huricane blow through here couple of yr's ago. Didn't even phase the
>> installation.
>>
>> I realize this info won't help you at this stage but for those who what
>> to
>> know where to order these
>> gems (4 units to a box), one source is: www.hwr.com They are a hell of
>> a
>> lot cheaper than chiropractic
>> appointments, or back surgrey.
>>
>> Frank Colson
>> www.R2D2u.com
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Eva Gallagher"
>> To:
>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 3:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: scaffolding for chimney??
>>
>>
>>> Hi Paul - for the first 9 -10 feet I used my concrete blocks that I
>>> later
>>> used as a base for the rest of the kiln. I piled up the blocks three
>>> deep,
>>> alternating gaps and bridging so that they would go further. For the top
>>> I
>>> then bridged with wooden planks. The blocks were very stable. After that
>>> I
>>> was lucky in that the shed roof had cross beams that I could put a
>>> platform
>>> on. Though it was tight working between the chimney and roof edge until
>>> I
>>> got above the roof somewhat. Now however for the last 3 feet I have an
>>> insulated stainless steel chimney section which is very heavy and needs
>>> to
>>> be lifted up onto the roof to put it in place - that will be an
>>> engineering
>>> challenge. It will give me 15 1/2 feet in total but better taller than
>>> shorter. Never realized how much work building a chimney is - the most I
>>> could do was about 80 bricks a day.
>>> Good luck - be sure to get a pulley system to bring up the bricks if you
>>> put
>>> up scaffolding - I doubt that my fingers would have lasted otherwise.
>>> Eva Gallagher
>>> Deep River, Ontario
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Paul Haigh"
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 2:36 PM
>>> Subject: scaffolding for chimney??
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'm up to 7' on my chimney build, which is about where things get
>>>> inconvenient to reach. It looks like a scaffold will be pretty
>>>> expensive
>>>> to rent. What have others done? Stepladders and planks? Stand on the
>>>> chimney as you build?
>>>>
>>>> Oi. 8 feet to go.
>>>>
>>>> ______________________________________________________________________________
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>>>>
>>>>
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Paul Haigh on mon 10 sep 07
Thanks for the suggestions. Yesterday my F.I.L. came over and helped me out.
I welded up a brace with a pulley, but as we had a second ladder- it was easier to load a pallet rested on top of my tractor cart (extra height resting it on the sides), and have him load a bucket and hand them to me one at a time. We put on over 4' yesterday, and are now at 11'5". We may have pressed on and finished, but it started raining and we heard thunder. Hmmm- I'm leaning against 4 big pieces of 2.5" angle iron...
One short day of that and we're done. I may just wait for the roof first.
Frank Colson on tue 11 sep 07
Eva- Indeed you are "guessing"!
Frank-
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eva Gallagher"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: scaffolding for chimney??
> Frank,
> I guess that I didn' mention tht I am building a wood kiln, so perhaps
> an
> all fiber chimney wouldn't work for a wood kiln? I have never fired a wood
> kiln - but understood you have to heat up the chimney to build up a good
> draft and I think that the fiber would not hold as much heat and so would
> be difficult to get a good draft going?
> Eva Gallagher
> Deep River, Ontario
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Frank Colson"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 1:00 PM
> Subject: Re: scaffolding for chimney??
>
>
>> Eva- My only quip is you are saying all this on a post with some 3000
>> possible viewers into pottery.
>> You are sending a message to many who could well rack up their back when
>> there exists an easier way
>> which might avoid a mishap. You are obiously in great physical shape!
>> It
>> just seems that it make more sense, than senseless, to accomplish those
>> tasks at a qulified gym.
>>
>>
>> Frank Colson
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Eva Gallagher"
>> To:
>> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 4:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: scaffolding for chimney??
>>
>>
>>> Hello Frank - I know it was hard work, but building the chimney and
>>> looking
>>> at it now, it has really given me a great feeling of accomplishment. I
>>> feel
>>> really proud that I built it straight and all level - never having laid
>>> a
>>> single brick before in my life. This would not have been the case in my
>>> twenties but in my 60's it's been great. I take great joy in being
>>> healthy
>>> enough to still being able to built it - everytime I heft a brick I feel
>>> lucky. So many of my contemporaries are no longer active or have passed
>>> away. Some of my firends even pay to get excercise - why do that when
>>> you
>>> can get it for free building a chimney!!.
>>> But if my chimney falls down next spring due to insufficient
>>> oundation -
>>> I
>>> may take up your suggestion.
>>> Regards,
>>> Eva Gallagher,
>>> Deep River, Ontario
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Frank Colson"
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 9:16 PM
>>> Subject: Re: scaffolding for chimney??
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hug! I can just feel the ache in my back just reading your
>>>> description.
>>>> That's why I switched to compressed ceramic fiber cylinders (1' high x
>>>> 1'
>>>> dia) stacked as high as needed. I've built doz's of downdraft kilns
>>>> with
>>>> 15' high "chimney". It was always a breeze! As far as stability, no
>>>> sweat!
>>>> Had
>>>> a huricane blow through here couple of yr's ago. Didn't even phase the
>>>> installation.
>>>>
>>>> I realize this info won't help you at this stage but for those who what
>>>> to
>>>> know where to order these
>>>> gems (4 units to a box), one source is: www.hwr.com They are a hell
>>>> of
>>>> a
>>>> lot cheaper than chiropractic
>>>> appointments, or back surgrey.
>>>>
>>>> Frank Colson
>>>> www.R2D2u.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Eva Gallagher"
>>>> To:
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 3:54 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: scaffolding for chimney??
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Paul - for the first 9 -10 feet I used my concrete blocks that I
>>>>> later
>>>>> used as a base for the rest of the kiln. I piled up the blocks three
>>>>> deep,
>>>>> alternating gaps and bridging so that they would go further. For the
>>>>> top
>>>>> I
>>>>> then bridged with wooden planks. The blocks were very stable. After
>>>>> that
>>>>> I
>>>>> was lucky in that the shed roof had cross beams that I could put a
>>>>> platform
>>>>> on. Though it was tight working between the chimney and roof edge
>>>>> until
>>>>> I
>>>>> got above the roof somewhat. Now however for the last 3 feet I have an
>>>>> insulated stainless steel chimney section which is very heavy and
>>>>> needs
>>>>> to
>>>>> be lifted up onto the roof to put it in place - that will be an
>>>>> engineering
>>>>> challenge. It will give me 15 1/2 feet in total but better taller than
>>>>> shorter. Never realized how much work building a chimney is - the most
>>>>> I
>>>>> could do was about 80 bricks a day.
>>>>> Good luck - be sure to get a pulley system to bring up the bricks if
>>>>> you
>>>>> put
>>>>> up scaffolding - I doubt that my fingers would have lasted otherwise.
>>>>> Eva Gallagher
>>>>> Deep River, Ontario
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Paul Haigh"
>>>>> To:
>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 2:36 PM
>>>>> Subject: scaffolding for chimney??
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm up to 7' on my chimney build, which is about where things get
>>>>>> inconvenient to reach. It looks like a scaffold will be pretty
>>>>>> expensive
>>>>>> to rent. What have others done? Stepladders and planks? Stand on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> chimney as you build?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oi. 8 feet to go.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ______________________________________________________________________________
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>> melpots2@visi.com
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
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Eva Gallagher on wed 12 sep 07
Frank,
I guess that I didn' mention tht I am building a wood kiln, so perhaps an
all fiber chimney wouldn't work for a wood kiln? I have never fired a wood
kiln - but understood you have to heat up the chimney to build up a good
draft and I think that the fiber would not hold as much heat and so would
be difficult to get a good draft going?
Eva Gallagher
Deep River, Ontario
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Colson"
To:
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: scaffolding for chimney??
> Eva- My only quip is you are saying all this on a post with some 3000
> possible viewers into pottery.
> You are sending a message to many who could well rack up their back when
> there exists an easier way
> which might avoid a mishap. You are obiously in great physical shape! It
> just seems that it make more sense, than senseless, to accomplish those
> tasks at a qulified gym.
>
>
> Frank Colson
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eva Gallagher"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 4:56 PM
> Subject: Re: scaffolding for chimney??
>
>
>> Hello Frank - I know it was hard work, but building the chimney and
>> looking
>> at it now, it has really given me a great feeling of accomplishment. I
>> feel
>> really proud that I built it straight and all level - never having laid a
>> single brick before in my life. This would not have been the case in my
>> twenties but in my 60's it's been great. I take great joy in being
>> healthy
>> enough to still being able to built it - everytime I heft a brick I feel
>> lucky. So many of my contemporaries are no longer active or have passed
>> away. Some of my firends even pay to get excercise - why do that when you
>> can get it for free building a chimney!!.
>> But if my chimney falls down next spring due to insufficient
>> oundation -
>> I
>> may take up your suggestion.
>> Regards,
>> Eva Gallagher,
>> Deep River, Ontario
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Frank Colson"
>> To:
>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 9:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: scaffolding for chimney??
>>
>>
>>> Hug! I can just feel the ache in my back just reading your description.
>>> That's why I switched to compressed ceramic fiber cylinders (1' high x
>>> 1'
>>> dia) stacked as high as needed. I've built doz's of downdraft kilns
>>> with
>>> 15' high "chimney". It was always a breeze! As far as stability, no
>>> sweat!
>>> Had
>>> a huricane blow through here couple of yr's ago. Didn't even phase the
>>> installation.
>>>
>>> I realize this info won't help you at this stage but for those who what
>>> to
>>> know where to order these
>>> gems (4 units to a box), one source is: www.hwr.com They are a hell of
>>> a
>>> lot cheaper than chiropractic
>>> appointments, or back surgrey.
>>>
>>> Frank Colson
>>> www.R2D2u.com
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Eva Gallagher"
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 3:54 PM
>>> Subject: Re: scaffolding for chimney??
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Paul - for the first 9 -10 feet I used my concrete blocks that I
>>>> later
>>>> used as a base for the rest of the kiln. I piled up the blocks three
>>>> deep,
>>>> alternating gaps and bridging so that they would go further. For the
>>>> top
>>>> I
>>>> then bridged with wooden planks. The blocks were very stable. After
>>>> that
>>>> I
>>>> was lucky in that the shed roof had cross beams that I could put a
>>>> platform
>>>> on. Though it was tight working between the chimney and roof edge until
>>>> I
>>>> got above the roof somewhat. Now however for the last 3 feet I have an
>>>> insulated stainless steel chimney section which is very heavy and needs
>>>> to
>>>> be lifted up onto the roof to put it in place - that will be an
>>>> engineering
>>>> challenge. It will give me 15 1/2 feet in total but better taller than
>>>> shorter. Never realized how much work building a chimney is - the most
>>>> I
>>>> could do was about 80 bricks a day.
>>>> Good luck - be sure to get a pulley system to bring up the bricks if
>>>> you
>>>> put
>>>> up scaffolding - I doubt that my fingers would have lasted otherwise.
>>>> Eva Gallagher
>>>> Deep River, Ontario
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Paul Haigh"
>>>> To:
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 2:36 PM
>>>> Subject: scaffolding for chimney??
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I'm up to 7' on my chimney build, which is about where things get
>>>>> inconvenient to reach. It looks like a scaffold will be pretty
>>>>> expensive
>>>>> to rent. What have others done? Stepladders and planks? Stand on
>>>>> the
>>>>> chimney as you build?
>>>>>
>>>>> Oi. 8 feet to go.
>>>>>
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