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primalmommy on tue 11 sep 07


You know how when you go barefoot all summer, your feet get nice and
tough and calloused, and you can walk any terrain without discomfort?

And then, you know how after a winter of wearing shoes, you go back to
barefoot in the spring and every stick or bit of gravel hurts like hell?
Critiques are apparently like that, after a summer off. (lol)

I only had one day of school last week, and then had a great time last
weekend at the Sylvania Fair. (I got a big yellow third place ribbon
from the judges, like Petunia the prize pig at the fair! What the heck
do I do with it? Pin it on my wheel?)

This week school is back in full swing. I headed for EMU yesterday after
lunch, and just got home tonight in time to tuck the kids in bed.

In the meantime there was a printmaking class, a late night in the
studio, then very late beer and laughter at Side Track with clay-friends
I had missed all summer, including Patrick from Tennessee, and Diana
with her friend Frank. I slept over at Diana's (my mom had the kids.)

I got up early this morning and worked in the studio from 8am to 8pm,
with a break to go to a gallery reception with my seminar class. I'm
making bowl after bowl after bowl, "evolving" them slowly to a point
where I can say, "There. THAT's my bowl." ... and then move on to the
next form. I need to feel like I have the "bones" of all the basic
forms, well crafted and well designed personal versions.

I am inspired to put more hours of work into my pots, in part because I
have seen the progress both Nancy Sly and Joanne North have made in our
grad studio over the summer. Some of you met the sparkly Joanne and one
winged Nancy (the new MFA, who was then in an elaborate cast) at the
last NCECA. Both are school teachers and thus confined to evening
classes during the academic year, but they spent their whole summer in
the studio where Patrick and I usually work, making gorgeous, elaborate
sculptures. Since I saw their work last spring and then kind of "fast
forwarded" to this fall, the way their work has blossomed was really
dramatic.

Which brings me to my question: Both Joanne and Nancy were quite
impressed by the people, the pots and the general feel of the clayart
room last year. Nancy has spent long hours over the summer researching
in the clayart archives for every bit of information she could find
about paper clay. They both read clayart, now, and last night they were
asking how to "get involved". They don't want to just lurk, but neither
do they want to make up questions just to be in the conversation... or
just post random blather about themselves, like I do.

So, do tell, regulars at the clayart pub... how do newbies get into the
swim?

Yours
Kelly in Ohio, where I thought about putting on a sweater today, for the
first time all summer...







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Elizabeth Priddy on wed 12 sep 07


Offer something to a question from someone else.

Some clayart posters never offer anything to anyone except some more
self-aggrandizing commentary.

The way to make friends is to offer something.

And then ask genuine questions, as we all have things we actually want and
need to know and work on.

You already know this and so your blather was disingenuous.

Why did/do you do that?

That was rhetorical, something for you to think about as you drive.

E


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Marcia Selsor on wed 12 sep 07


Kelly,
Just tell them to introduce themselves to the list.
People do it all the time. Or suggest they lurk until something pops
into their head. Joining Clayart should be a good event...and
a great way to learn things. I am always learning things on Clayart.
Today I learned what "epergnes" are, and I may be inspired so make some.
I get excited when I can contribute or offer simple suggestions but I
also get good ideas and simple solutions. "Spooge" is my favorite
thing gleened from Clayart and further developed in my own
experience. Clay is so complex that even after 40+ years of working
with it, someone else's approach to a problem can be an "Aha! or
Duh!" moment.
I was at the Bowl-a-thon in Edinburg -Pan Am University last weekend
to throw bowls for the empty bowl fund raiser in the Rio Grande
Valley. I enjoyed the environment.
I threw and trimmed 37 bowls and made 2 oval forms at Chris'
request. He is the instructor there. It is fun being around new
students in Clay, college kids, and experienced volunteers. Great
group. I threw their recycled clay which was stiffer than the very
moist factory clay which I thought was too soft. Chris showed me
several pieces from his students from last semester. Wonderful
sculptural pieces which is his main direction in clay.
Sitting at the wheels is a community experience. The students had no
idea who I was, but I did throw fast, off the hump and used different
techniques than anyone else I saw working there.. I think I taught
some things there.
Students teaching other students is fun to watch, too. Clayart is my
substitute classroom environment where lots of exchange goes on for
people at all levels. It is social.

Marcia Selsor
http://marciaselsor.com

Dannon Rhudy on wed 12 sep 07


Kelly said:
: Both Joanne and Nancy were quite
> impressed ......both read clayart,......they were
> asking how to "get involved"........

Now, then, Kelly. No one needs to "make up" questions
for clayart. Everyone has legitimate questions from time to
time, just as everyone has answers for others, from time to
time.

They can step in at any time, whenever they wish. They needn't
"introduce" themselves, necessarily. Clayart is a huge community,
with lots of give and take. They can take a breath, jump in.
Tell them to have at it, whenever they are so inclined.

regards

Dannon Rhudy

Tracy Shea on thu 13 sep 07


About the paperclay question-
I believe there is going to be a paperclay workshop with Graham Hay here =
in Pepper Pike, (Northeast) OH at the Orange Art Center (nudge, nudge, =
Jackie Miller- fill us in!) Not too far for y'all, I think, and I'm =
sure well worth it if you're looking for paperclay 101-

Tracy Shea
Garrettsville, OH
www.sheaclay.com

fall is in the air here, too.=20

Jacqueline Miller on thu 13 sep 07


Tracy is correct. The Orange Art Center, a converted farm house in a
wooded nook, in Pepper Pike, Ohio (an eastern suburb of Cleveland)
will be having a weekend workshop with Graham Hay April 12-13, 2008.
It should be a lot of fun. It will be hands-on and we are going to try
to keep it to about 15 participants so that we can each get as much
out of it as we can. Graham will give a free slide show Friday night
and then we will get our hands in the muck Sat and Sun. Graham has the
most comprehensive website on Paperclay that I could find. Look him up
at www.grahamhay.com.au. If you want to be on the mailing list for the
workshop or have any questions about the workshop, lodging or
directions contact me at jqamiller@aol.com.

Jackie

On 9/13/07, Tracy Shea wrote:
> About the paperclay question-
> I believe there is going to be a paperclay workshop with Graham Hay here in Pepper Pike, (Northeast) OH at the Orange Art Center (nudge, nudge, Jackie Miller- fill us in!) Not too far for y'all, I think, and I'm sure well worth it if you're looking for paperclay 101-
>
> Tracy Shea
> Garrettsville, OH
> www.sheaclay.com
>
> fall is in the air here, too.
>
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Ralph Naylor on fri 14 sep 07


Kelly, you've done field anthropology - tell them to lurk until they get
it. That's a basic Usenet instruction also, and they should check out
rec.crafts.pottery and alt.sculpture - both groups have talented core
members who are happy to answer questions and engage in dialog.

Best regards,
Ralph in NH
happily lurking since - dunno, pre-whatever. probably still don't get it ;-
)

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 20:09:24 -0700, primalmommy
wrote:

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>Which brings me to my question: Both Joanne and Nancy were quite
>impressed by the people, the pots and the general feel of the clayart
>room last year. Nancy has spent long hours over the summer researching
>in the clayart archives for every bit of information she could find
>about paper clay. They both read clayart, now, and last night they were
>asking how to "get involved". They don't want to just lurk, but neither
>do they want to make up questions just to be in the conversation... or
>just post random blather about themselves, like I do.
>
>So, do tell, regulars at the clayart pub... how do newbies get into the
>swim?
>
>Yours
>Kelly in Ohio, where I thought about putting on a sweater today, for the
>first time all summer...
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>http://www.primalpotter.com
>http://www.primalmommy.com/blog.html
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>Click for free info on rehab treatments for drug & alcohol dependency.
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