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cone 6 glaze suggestions for bmix

updated thu 13 sep 07

 

Ann Currie on sun 9 sep 07


I am working with a group of teenagers making bowls for an Empty Bowl
project. We are going to work with Cone 10 bmix but we will fire the work in an
electric kiln to cone 6. I would really appreciate any suggestions that anyone
has about glazes that will fit this claybody. We can either mix the glazes
ourselves are buy commercial glazes. Thanks so much. Ann Currie



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John Rodgers on mon 10 sep 07


One more thing - Chappelle says Floating Blue is cone 6. For me it works
best at cone 5. At cone 6 it tends to go green and run.

John Rodgers
Chelsea, AL

John Rodgers wrote:
> Ann,
>
> Bmix comes in cone 5 and cone 10 versions. For electric at cone 6 you
> would be better off if you can get the cone 5 version. It will handle
> cone 6 easily.
>
> As for glazes - Chapelles Floating Blue and Chrome-Tin Red work well on
> Cone 5 Bmix. Both can be found in the archives at www.potters.org. It
> would be good to look for them there because there is considerable
> discussion about them not found elsewhere. Also, Zakin's Black Friday
> works well. on ^5 Bmix.
>
> Regards,
>
> John Rodgers
> Chelsea, AL
>
>
>
> Ann Currie wrote:
>> I am working with a group of teenagers making bowls for an Empty Bowl
>> project. We are going to work with Cone 10 bmix but we will fire the
>> work in an
>> electric kiln to cone 6. I would really appreciate any suggestions
>> that anyone
>> has about glazes that will fit this claybody. We can either mix the
>> glazes
>> ourselves are buy commercial glazes. Thanks so much. Ann Currie
>>
>>
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Donna Kat on mon 10 sep 07


On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 22:55:11 EDT, Ann Currie wrote:

>I am working with a group of teenagers making bowls for an Empty Bowl
>project. We are going to work with Cone 10 bmix but we will fire the
work in an
>electric kiln to cone 6. I would really appreciate any suggestions that
anyone
>has about glazes that will fit this claybody. We can either mix the
glazes
>ourselves are buy commercial glazes. Thanks so much. Ann Currie
>


http://m2crafts.ca/mc6g.html

Try a look at this site. Mastering Cone 6 glazes are recommended for this
clay body. If you go to

http://www.frogpondpottery.com/glazestability/glaze0005.html

you can use the base glaze with different oxides. I have yet to hear of
anyone having a problem with fit for any of the MC6 glazes on cone 6
bodies. The studio I was at used a very wide range of clays and had no
problems with MC6 glazes. Other options that you can find on John
Hesselberth's site under stability that people use on a variety of clays
is the floating blue, and Annie's Tan (only without the Rutile and
Manganese for a rich earthy red brown).

Read Jason Hooper's posts this week.

I don't use bmix but I can send you other glazes that should work if these
are not enough.

John Rodgers on mon 10 sep 07


Ann,

Bmix comes in cone 5 and cone 10 versions. For electric at cone 6 you
would be better off if you can get the cone 5 version. It will handle
cone 6 easily.

As for glazes - Chapelles Floating Blue and Chrome-Tin Red work well on
Cone 5 Bmix. Both can be found in the archives at www.potters.org. It
would be good to look for them there because there is considerable
discussion about them not found elsewhere. Also, Zakin's Black Friday
works well. on ^5 Bmix.

Regards,

John Rodgers
Chelsea, AL



Ann Currie wrote:
> I am working with a group of teenagers making bowls for an Empty Bowl
> project. We are going to work with Cone 10 bmix but we will fire the work in an
> electric kiln to cone 6. I would really appreciate any suggestions that anyone
> has about glazes that will fit this claybody. We can either mix the glazes
> ourselves are buy commercial glazes. Thanks so much. Ann Currie
>
>
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Josh Berkus on mon 10 sep 07


Ann,

> I am working with a group of teenagers making bowls for an Empty Bowl
> project. We are going to work with Cone 10 bmix but we will fire the work
> in an electric kiln to cone 6.

Why aren't you using Cone 6 b-mix? You're pretty much guarenteeing that the
finished pieces will chip with use.

> I would really appreciate any suggestions
> that anyone has about glazes that will fit this claybody. We can either
> mix the glazes ourselves are buy commercial glazes. Thanks so much. Ann
> Currie

I recommend Mastering Cone 6 Glazes (http://www.masteringglazes.com/). Your
students can read the book and learn about glaze formulation, too.

--
The Fuzzy Chef
San Francisco

Donna Kat on tue 11 sep 07


OOPS! Didn't realize that Bmix came in both cone5 and 10 - Those glazes I
mentioned are very tolerant but I would beware of using a high fire clay
for a mid fire piece especially if it is functional. I just assumed that
this clay had a range of 5-10 (which I have always been uneasy of and will
not buy but they do sell clays with that range).

My bad. (the problem with not knowing what you don't know).

Donna

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:35:13 -0500, Donna Kat

wrote:

>On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 22:55:11 EDT, Ann Currie wrote:
>
>>I am working with a group of teenagers making bowls for an Empty Bowl
>>project. We are going to work with Cone 10 bmix but we will fire the
>work in an
>>electric kiln to cone 6. I would really appreciate any suggestions that
>anyone
>>has about glazes that will fit this claybody. We can either mix the
>glazes
>>ourselves are buy commercial glazes. Thanks so much. Ann Currie
>>
>
>
>http://m2crafts.ca/mc6g.html
>
>Try a look at this site. Mastering Cone 6 glazes are recommended for this
>clay body. If you go to
>
>http://www.frogpondpottery.com/glazestability/glaze0005.html
>
>you can use the base glaze with different oxides. I have yet to hear of
>anyone having a problem with fit for any of the MC6 glazes on cone 6
>bodies. The studio I was at used a very wide range of clays and had no
>problems with MC6 glazes. Other options that you can find on John
>Hesselberth's site under stability that people use on a variety of clays
>is the floating blue, and Annie's Tan (only without the Rutile and
>Manganese for a rich earthy red brown).
>
>Read Jason Hooper's posts this week.
>
>I don't use bmix but I can send you other glazes that should work if these
>are not enough.
>
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____
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melpots2@visi.com

Ron Roy on tue 11 sep 07


Hi Ann,

Why use a cone 10 clay at cone 6? Do you not care that the ware will leak
and absorb water? That will make them unfit for use in microwave ovens.
Water absorption will result in delayed crazing as well.

RR

>I am working with a group of teenagers making bowls for an Empty Bowl
>project. We are going to work with Cone 10 bmix but we will fire the work
>in an
>electric kiln to cone 6. I would really appreciate any suggestions that
>anyone
>has about glazes that will fit this claybody. We can either mix the glazes
>ourselves are buy commercial glazes. Thanks so much. Ann Currie
>
>
>
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Ron Roy
RR#4
15084 Little Lake Road
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Canada
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John Hesselberth on tue 11 sep 07


Hi Ann,

I agree with John's comment below. While my experience with Cone 5 B
Mix is limited to a couple boxes, I have talked with others who have
used it and had the same experience as I had. I found that Cone 5 B
mix was not fully vitrified (leak-proof without glaze) until about
cone 7. I have to believe that the Cone 10 B mix would be pretty
porous at cone 6. You would be totally dependent on a perfect craze-
free glaze to achieve leak-proofness. .

Regards,

John

On Sep 10, 2007, at 9:00 AM, John Rodgers wrote:

> Bmix comes in cone 5 and cone 10 versions. For electric at cone 6 you
> would be better off if you can get the cone 5 version. It will handle
> cone 6 easily.

John Hesselberth
www.frogpondpottery.com

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