Clayart SCtag on thu 20 sep 07
Ok,all of you mention I do but if you have the catch basin ''my word''
facing left as you look at the pack,which side f the cone, flat or point faces
into the ''basin''? Facing this way, are the numbers facing you or the opposite
side? Where do you face the ''shiny side''? I have made cone packs for
decades, but was away from it and a young fellow at his university told me I had
made them facing the incorrect direction, Angle I knew, and I use
vermiculite in the clay making them but newboxes of cones don;t seem to have it. I am
checking with the ''peanut gallery'' to get a read and attempt to see if I've
had a ''senior moment'',lol.I did know the a
Many thanks to those who bothered to answer,and yes I did check archives.
Meg
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Clayart SCtag on thu 20 sep 07
we are having a difference of opinion on the orientations of the cones in a
gas cone pack facing the catch basin commonly used.will someone please
discuss.we are using the large cones, a mix of old white cones and newer color
coded cones.
Meg
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Ric Swenson on thu 20 sep 07
the cones falling to the right or falling left...does not matter.....the an=
gle 'does' matter....the cones each have an angle built into the base....'t=
hat' is important. =20
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Orton.org can inform you of all the relevant info....or seger.org....
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make the cone pack to fall at the angle prescribed. (7 degrees I think is =
correct).....but the base of the cone is made to make the proper angle for =
correct firing....take one and play with the angle until you understand the=
concept.....During firing, when the firing cone 10 melts to near a horizo=
ntal point....shut down the kiln.
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use some heavily grogged clay or clay mixed with vermiculite...or sawdust..=
..to make the cone pack....so it will not blow up when heating up....or mak=
e some up in advance and let them dry well....
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for cone 10.....use a cone 9, 10 and 11 ......with 9 as the warning cone ..=
.10 as the firing cone and 11 as the signal that you have gone too far....b=
y about only 35 degrees F.
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Hope this helps.
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Ric
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Richard Aerni on thu 20 sep 07
8% angle off of the vertical facing the way they will fall. With Orton
cones, from behind, the number on the cone should be facing to the left.
Best,
Richard Aerni
Rochester, NY
Jennifer Boyer on fri 21 sep 07
Here's one discussion that needs a picture!
Check out the top pic. This is a catch-all page on my web site:
http://www.thistlehillpottery.com/ram.html
What I've done for 35 years: With cones facing left, a flat side
faces the basin and you can read the #'s facing you.
But this picture on the Bailey Pottery web site makes me wonder!!
http://www.baileypottery.com/cones/cones1.htm
I've never come CLOSE to placing my cones like that!!
Jennifer
On Sep 20, 2007, at 7:37 PM, Clayart SCtag wrote:
> Ok,all of you mention I do but if you have the catch basin ''my
> word''
> facing left as you look at the pack,which side f the cone, flat or
> point faces
> into the ''basin''? Facing this way, are the numbers facing you or
> the opposite
> side? Where do you face the ''shiny side''? I have made cone packs
> for
> decades, but was away from it and a young fellow at his
> university told me I had
> made them facing the incorrect direction, Angle I knew, and I use
> vermiculite in the clay making them but newboxes of cones don;t
> seem to have it. I am
> checking with the ''peanut gallery'' to get a read and attempt to
> see if I've
> had a ''senior moment'',lol.I did know the a
>
> Many thanks to those who bothered to answer,and yes I did check
> archives.
>
> Meg
>
>
>
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William & Susan Schran User on fri 21 sep 07
On 9/21/07 8:59 AM, "Jennifer Boyer" wrote:
>
> Check out the top pic. This is a catch-all page on my web site:
>
> http://www.thistlehillpottery.com/ram.html
>
> What I've done for 35 years: With cones facing left, a flat side
> faces the basin and you can read the #'s facing you.
> But this picture on the Bailey Pottery web site makes me wonder!!
>
> http://www.baileypottery.com/cones/cones1.htm
>
> I've never come CLOSE to placing my cones like that!!
The way you have demonstrated in your image is the correct way for cones
that are produced by Orton now. Back in the old days, when low fire cones
were brown (^01 and lower) and high fire cones (^1 and higher) were white
and one mixed the vermiculite with clay to form cone packs, then the image
on Bailey's site would be correct.
Orton produces ram pressed unfired clay cone holders that I'm sure are meant
for one time use, but we use these multiple times, even in ^10 firings.
Bought a box of a hundred a few years ago, still haven't used up the top
layer.
--
William "Bill" Schran
wschran@cox.net
wschran@nvcc.edu
http://www.creativecreekartisans.com
Taylor Hendrix on fri 21 sep 07
The positioning of the cones pictured at the Bailey site is just fine.
There is no reason that a cone pack must sit perpendicular to the line
of sight. Adjusting the cones to fall next to each other rather than
over each other is a good idea I think. I step my cones this way which
allows me to see them and allows them to bend perpendicular to my line
of sight.
Taylor, in Rockport TX
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