Alisha Clarke on tue 18 sep 07
A couple of weeks ago I asked on this list about refurbishing an old Olympic
DD9 (9 cu ft. downdraft) kiln. Well things are happening faster than I
expected, and I need to move the kiln in the next few days from the
community studio where it now resides to my home studio. I have an area
between my house and the studio where I plan to put it (it will be about
15-20' from each), but it's just a dirt area right now, without a concrete
slab or shed. Since I won't have time to pour a slab or build a shed, I was
thinking about getting some concrete pavers -- probably the ones that are
about 12" square by 2" deep and some gravel in-between to set it on. In the
future I may put a metal shed over it, but was hoping I could just use a
tarp over it when it's not in use.
Would this be sufficient? Are there any concerns I should be aware of?
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Alisha Clarke
www.alishaclarke.com
Michael Wendt on tue 18 sep 07
My own experience with tarps is that they are not
completely water proof after a while. The wind will
whip them until the constant flexing results in leaks.
If the kiln gets wet and then freezes, it could result
in
damage to the bricks.
Why not consider one of those inexpensive metal
car ports that we see made of delta rib and
galvanized metal pipe? They are tall enough to
cover a kiln and keep the rain off. Since they
are all metal, they don't burn. It is a false economy
to save money with a tarp only to ruin the kiln.
As to surface, gravel with pavers will work fine
in the interim.
Regards,
Michael Wendt
Wendt Pottery
2729 Clearwater Ave.
Lewiston, Id 83501
U.S.A.
208-746-3724
wendtpot@lewiston.com
http://www.wendtpottery.com
http://UniquePorcelainDesigns.com
A couple of weeks ago I asked on this list about
refurbishing an old Olympic
DD9 (9 cu ft. downdraft) kiln. Well things are
happening faster than I
expected, and I need to move the kiln in the next few
days from the
community studio where it now resides to my home
studio. I have an area
between my house and the studio where I plan to put it
(it will be about
15-20' from each), but it's just a dirt area right now,
without a concrete
slab or shed. Since I won't have time to pour a slab or
build a shed, I was
thinking about getting some concrete pavers -- probably
the ones that are
about 12" square by 2" deep and some gravel in-between
to set it on. In the
future I may put a metal shed over it, but was hoping I
could just use a
tarp over it when it's not in use.
Would this be sufficient? Are there any concerns I
should be aware of?
Alisha Clarke on wed 19 sep 07
Thanks Michael! I think the exposure to water is the main cause of the
damage the kiln has seen already. While it was under a shed (of some sort),
water leaked on it and came through the hole for the chimney. The kiln is
only about 8 years old, but the original chimney and damper were removed and
replaced with a makeshift brick chimney when the original corroded. There is
some other corrosion that will need to be repaired, but it seems like it's
worth salvaging.
Since I have to have it moved in the next few days, I'm hoping that a tarp
will protect it some until I'm able to put a metal roof or shed over it.
Thanks,
Alisha
On 9/18/07, Michael Wendt wrote:
>
> My own experience with tarps is that they are not
> completely water proof after a while. The wind will
> whip them until the constant flexing results in leaks.
> If the kiln gets wet and then freezes, it could result
> in
> damage to the bricks.
> Why not consider one of those inexpensive metal
> car ports that we see made of delta rib and
> galvanized metal pipe? They are tall enough to
> cover a kiln and keep the rain off. Since they
> are all metal, they don't burn. It is a false economy
> to save money with a tarp only to ruin the kiln.
> As to surface, gravel with pavers will work fine
> in the interim.
> Regards,
> Michael Wendt
> Wendt Pottery
> 2729 Clearwater Ave.
> Lewiston, Id 83501
> U.S.A.
> 208-746-3724
> wendtpot@lewiston.com
> http://www.wendtpottery.com
> http://UniquePorcelainDesigns.com
>
> A couple of weeks ago I asked on this list about
> refurbishing an old Olympic
> DD9 (9 cu ft. downdraft) kiln. Well things are
> happening faster than I
> expected, and I need to move the kiln in the next few
> days from the
> community studio where it now resides to my home
> studio. I have an area
> between my house and the studio where I plan to put it
> (it will be about
> 15-20' from each), but it's just a dirt area right now,
> without a concrete
> slab or shed. Since I won't have time to pour a slab or
> build a shed, I was
> thinking about getting some concrete pavers -- probably
> the ones that are
> about 12" square by 2" deep and some gravel in-between
> to set it on. In the
> future I may put a metal shed over it, but was hoping I
> could just use a
> tarp over it when it's not in use.
>
> Would this be sufficient? Are there any concerns I
> should be aware of?
>
>
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Alisha Clarke
www.alishaclarke.com
Gayle Bair on wed 19 sep 07
Alisha,
I protect my kiln in Tucson with a barbeque grill cover
which is a lot more substantial than the tarp material.
My kiln is smaller than yours (7cu ft) but you should be able to find
one that fits yours. I bought my at Big Lots for about $10. It also has
Velcro
straps that help secure it to the contour of the kiln.
It has endured monsoon season for several years and has kept the kiln dry.
Now my kiln is kind of protected as it's on a cement porch with an
overhanging roof
but it is outside and has been exposed to the weather.
I think it would be a better option than a tarp.
Gayle Bair
Bainbridge Island, WA
Tucson, AZ
http://claybair.com
-----Original Message-----
From: AlishaClarke
Thanks Michael! I think the exposure to water is the main cause of the
damage the kiln has seen already. While it was under a shed (of some sort),
water leaked on it and came through the hole for the chimney. The kiln is
only about 8 years old, but the original chimney and damper were removed and
replaced with a makeshift brick chimney when the original corroded. There is
some other corrosion that will need to be repaired, but it seems like it's
worth salvaging.
Since I have to have it moved in the next few days, I'm hoping that a tarp
will protect it some until I'm able to put a metal roof or shed over it.
Thanks,
Alisha
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Emily Kiewel on thu 20 sep 07
I've kept my Olympic kiln outside under tarps for 10 years with no
problems. I do have three layers, smaller thicker one underneath
with x-tra large blue tarp doubled up on top. Keep it on with a
bungee wrapped around the middle. Only problem is trying to load
when its raining (have to put up my fair tent).
Mostly lurking in SC,
Emily Kiewel
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:29:55 -0400
From: Alisha Clarke
Subject: Re: Placement of old Olympic kiln -- Help!
Thanks Michael! I think the exposure to water is the main cause of the
damage the kiln has seen already. While it was under a shed (of some
sort),
water leaked on it and came through the hole for the chimney. The
kiln is
only about 8 years old, but the original chimney and damper were
removed and
replaced with a makeshift brick chimney when the original corroded.
There is
some other corrosion that will need to be repaired, but it seems like
it's
worth salvaging.
Since I have to have it moved in the next few days, I'm hoping that a
tarp
will protect it some until I'm able to put a metal roof or shed over it.
Thanks,
Alisha
On 9/18/07, Michael Wendt wrote:
>
> My own experience with tarps is that they are not
> completely water proof after a while. The wind will
> whip them until the constant flexing results in leaks.
> If the kiln gets wet and then freezes, it could result
> in
> damage to the bricks.
> Why not consider one of those inexpensive metal
> car ports that we see made of delta rib and
> galvanized metal pipe? They are tall enough to
> cover a kiln and keep the rain off. Since they
> are all metal, they don't burn. It is a false economy
> to save money with a tarp only to ruin the kiln.
> As to surface, gravel with pavers will work fine
> in the interim.
> Regards,
> Michael Wendt
> Wendt Pottery
> 2729 Clearwater Ave.
> Lewiston, Id 83501
> U.S.A.
> 208-746-3724
> wendtpot@lewiston.com
> http://www.wendtpottery.com
> http://UniquePorcelainDesigns.com
>
> A couple of weeks ago I asked on this list about
> refurbishing an old Olympic
> DD9 (9 cu ft. downdraft) kiln. Well things are
> happening faster than I
> expected, and I need to move the kiln in the next few
> days from the
> community studio where it now resides to my home
> studio. I have an area
> between my house and the studio where I plan to put it
> (it will be about
> 15-20' from each), but it's just a dirt area right now,
> without a concrete
> slab or shed. Since I won't have time to pour a slab or
> build a shed, I was
> thinking about getting some concrete pavers -- probably
> the ones that are
> about 12" square by 2" deep and some gravel in-between
> to set it on. In the
> future I may put a metal shed over it, but was hoping I
> could just use a
> tarp over it when it's not in use.
>
> Would this be sufficient? Are there any concerns I
> should be aware of?
>
>
>
Alisha Clarke on thu 20 sep 07
Emily and Gail Bair,
Thank you both for the reassurance that a tarp or grill cover (good idea)
will work for protecting the kiln. I've been a bit frazzled lately with the
move of the kiln, preparation of a place to put it and the arrival of a new
kiln at the community studio. The reassurance is helping to calm my nerves.
The fair tent is a good idea also, Emily. I may be using that sometime.
Alisha
On 9/20/07, Emily Kiewel wrote:
>
> I've kept my Olympic kiln outside under tarps for 10 years with no
> problems. I do have three layers, smaller thicker one underneath
> with x-tra large blue tarp doubled up on top. Keep it on with a
> bungee wrapped around the middle. Only problem is trying to load
> when its raining (have to put up my fair tent).
>
> Mostly lurking in SC,
>
> Emily Kiewel
>
>
> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:29:55 -0400
> From: Alisha Clarke
> Subject: Re: Placement of old Olympic kiln -- Help!
>
> Thanks Michael! I think the exposure to water is the main cause of the
> damage the kiln has seen already. While it was under a shed (of some
> sort),
> water leaked on it and came through the hole for the chimney. The
> kiln is
> only about 8 years old, but the original chimney and damper were
> removed and
> replaced with a makeshift brick chimney when the original corroded.
> There is
> some other corrosion that will need to be repaired, but it seems like
> it's
> worth salvaging.
>
> Since I have to have it moved in the next few days, I'm hoping that a
> tarp
> will protect it some until I'm able to put a metal roof or shed over it.
> Thanks,
> Alisha
>
> On 9/18/07, Michael Wendt wrote:
>
> >
> > My own experience with tarps is that they are not
> > completely water proof after a while. The wind will
> > whip them until the constant flexing results in leaks.
> > If the kiln gets wet and then freezes, it could result
> > in
> > damage to the bricks.
> > Why not consider one of those inexpensive metal
> > car ports that we see made of delta rib and
> > galvanized metal pipe? They are tall enough to
> > cover a kiln and keep the rain off. Since they
> > are all metal, they don't burn. It is a false economy
> > to save money with a tarp only to ruin the kiln.
> > As to surface, gravel with pavers will work fine
> > in the interim.
> > Regards,
> > Michael Wendt
> > Wendt Pottery
> > 2729 Clearwater Ave.
> > Lewiston, Id 83501
> > U.S.A.
> > 208-746-3724
> > wendtpot@lewiston.com
> > http://www.wendtpottery.com
> > http://UniquePorcelainDesigns.com
> >
> > A couple of weeks ago I asked on this list about
> > refurbishing an old Olympic
> > DD9 (9 cu ft. downdraft) kiln. Well things are
> > happening faster than I
> > expected, and I need to move the kiln in the next few
> > days from the
> > community studio where it now resides to my home
> > studio. I have an area
> > between my house and the studio where I plan to put it
> > (it will be about
> > 15-20' from each), but it's just a dirt area right now,
> > without a concrete
> > slab or shed. Since I won't have time to pour a slab or
> > build a shed, I was
> > thinking about getting some concrete pavers -- probably
> > the ones that are
> > about 12" square by 2" deep and some gravel in-between
> > to set it on. In the
> > future I may put a metal shed over it, but was hoping I
> > could just use a
> > tarp over it when it's not in use.
> >
> > Would this be sufficient? Are there any concerns I
> > should be aware of?
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Alisha Clarke
www.alishaclarke.com
Pam Cresswell on thu 20 sep 07
I have my biggish skutt and little paragon in a storage locker :-(
Tonight I am meeting with a realtor to look at a few houses. The one I like
the best has a concrete patio walk out from a masonry basement (studio),
with a wooden deck over the patio. I am wondering if it would work to put
the kilns under the deck. There would be about 6 feet clearance over the
kilns. Do they still need a shed? Better in shed and away from house/deck? I
could put the kilns in a garage, but would rather not fire there. Kilns
should come on wheels :-)
Any ideas for good electric kiln placement?
Pam in warm Missouri
Shula on thu 20 sep 07
You might want to talk to you insurance agent, too. I am not permitted to have a kiln in the garage if I want my house insured. I need to have it away from the house, i.e. in a shed.
Shula
Desert Hot Springs, CA
writing from San Diego, CA where I am working these days
-----Original Message-----
>From: Pam Cresswell
>
> I have my biggish skutt and little paragon in a storage locker :-(
>Tonight I am meeting with a realtor to look at a few houses.
Charles Hightower on sat 22 sep 07
A tarp should be fine now if you don't mind firing only when rain is not in
the forecast. You'll need to check for a few days as you'll take a while to
cool. Keep the tarp well away when firing so it is not a fire hazard. Did
you have to call anyone to get it OK'ed with the gas company? That is my
problem. I built a small kiln and have already fired it twice now. I just
never called and am a bit worried about when the man comes to check the
meter.
Nathan Miller on sat 22 sep 07
I have one of these kilns, although I have mine set up to fun on portable
propane canisters (8 gallon capacity). Here in the Pacific North-wet, I
pretty much have to fire whenever I need to do so, regardless of the
weather, although I usually do my best to avoid firing during a Pineapple
Express or other major storm systems. With rain in the forecast for 8
months out of the year, beggars can't usually be choosers and I haven't
found that rain has adversely affected my firings (except when I'm inside
and not keeping a close enough eye on the reduction flame). I usually fire
to cone 10 (typically takes 4-6 hours) and unload the next afternoon (one of
the advantages of having a small kiln).
-Nathan Miller
Thistillium Pottery
Newberg, OR
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