Rachelle Raphael on tue 18 sep 07
My friend Susan lost her mother and mother-in-law within a week of each
other. She was going to make an urn for the ashes but then all the children and
grand children wanted one. So she has decided to make vases and glaze them with
the mother's ashes.
We can fire wood, soda, and plain reduction ^10, ^6 electric, as well as
alternatives like raku and pit firing. She is leaning toward ^10 as that is the
clay body used and will make the strongest vessel.
One option would be to make an ash glaze although having not used one in the
studio we don't know what it will look like.
I have also seen ashes placed/sprinkled on the outside of a vessel over the
glaze. This appeals to me because you can then say, there is mom!
What do you suggest and what might be the best ways to do the two ideas
above?
Thank you,
rachelle
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Betsy Smith on tue 18 sep 07
I have considered this and obtained permission from my parents to use some
of their ash. I have yet to have the need to do it as they are still
living. But I have thought about testing with the ashes of a cat that we
have on a shelf. I plan to sprinkle over a white or clear cone 10 glaze on
porcelain, probably a flat bowl shape that I can put on the wall or leave
out on a surface.
Betsy
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Raphael
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 10:09 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Using human ashes to glaze - help
My friend Susan lost her mother and mother-in-law within a week of each
other. She was going to make an urn for the ashes but then all the children
and
grand children wanted one. So she has decided to make vases and glaze them
with
the mother's ashes.
We can fire wood, soda, and plain reduction ^10, ^6 electric, as well as
alternatives like raku and pit firing. She is leaning toward ^10 as that is
the
clay body used and will make the strongest vessel.
One option would be to make an ash glaze although having not used one in the
studio we don't know what it will look like.
I have also seen ashes placed/sprinkled on the outside of a vessel over the
glaze. This appeals to me because you can then say, there is mom!
What do you suggest and what might be the best ways to do the two ideas
above?
Thank you,
rachelle
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Mike Gordon on tue 18 sep 07
You could make the appropriate number of small jars with lids, put the
person's ashes inside and glaze them shut or glaze them and Epoxy the
lids on with the ashes inside. Mike Gordon
On Sep 18, 2007, at 10:08 AM, Rachelle Raphael wrote:
> My friend Susan lost her mother and mother-in-law within a week of each
> other. She was going to make an urn for the ashes but then all the
> children and
> grand children wanted one. So she has decided to make vases and glaze
> them with
> the mother's ashes.
>
> We can fire wood, soda, and plain reduction ^10, ^6 electric, as well
> as
> alternatives like raku and pit firing. She is leaning toward ^10 as
> that is the
> clay body used and will make the strongest vessel.
>
> One option would be to make an ash glaze although having not used one
> in the
> studio we don't know what it will look like.
>
> I have also seen ashes placed/sprinkled on the outside of a vessel
> over the
> glaze. This appeals to me because you can then say, there is mom!
>
> What do you suggest and what might be the best ways to do the two ideas
> above?
>
> Thank you,
>
> rachelle
>
>
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Hank Murrow on tue 18 sep 07
On Sep 18, 2007, at 10:08 AM, Rachelle Raphael wrote:
> My friend Susan lost her mother and mother-in-law within a week of
> each
> other. She was going to make an urn for the ashes but then all the
> children and
> grand children wanted one. So she has decided to make vases and
> glaze them with
> the mother's ashes.
>
> We can fire wood, soda, and plain reduction ^10, ^6 electric, as
> well as
> alternatives like raku and pit firing. She is leaning toward ^10 as
> that is the
> clay body used and will make the strongest vessel.
>
> One option would be to make an ash glaze although having not used
> one in the
> studio we don't know what it will look like.
>
> I have also seen ashes placed/sprinkled on the outside of a vessel
> over the
> glaze. This appeals to me because you can then say, there is mom!
>
> What do you suggest and what might be the best ways to do the two
> ideas
> above?
Dear Rachelle;
The Main Thing is realizing that human ash is almost exclusively bone
ash, which is quite different from plant ash, because it is high in
Phosphorus along with the Calcium. So, look for a high bone ash glaze
that seems right to you. You can get by with much less Silica because
Phosphorus is a glass former. I love "Cory's Weird" which my young
friend Cory Levins imagined during Art History lectures at Alfred in
the early-seventies. He died shortly after graduating from
Alfred....... yet his glaze lives on. Sharing this glaze with Ian
Currie created our wonderful friendship, and now it is one of his
favorites.
Glaze name: Cory's Weird Original
Cone: 9 - 10
Color: oatmeal to white
Testing: Tested thoroughly
Surface texture: smooth and fatty
Firing: Reduction
Glaze type: Satin matt ware glaze
Recipe: Percent
Nepheline Syenite 32.00
Whiting 3.00
Bone Ash 32.00
Talc 13.00
Kaolin 18.00
Silica 2.00
Totals: 100.00
Comments:
This is pretty close to the recipe as I used it at Anderson Ranch in
the seventies. Brush with Fe/Ru for iron red to orange, Fe for rich
brown, 2Fe/Co for blue-black, Ferric phosphate for iron red, Thinnish
Co for soft blue. You can view a picture of the glaze here.........
http://www.murrow.biz/hank/hankweb-all/page4.jpg
Cheers! Hank Murrow
http://www.murrow.biz/hank
L. P. Skeen on tue 18 sep 07
Rachel, this has been discussed MANYMANYMANYMANY times, and there is a =
TON of information in the archives. Just use the search phrase 'human =
ashes in glaze" or any combination of same, and you will get more =
information than you ever thought of.
hmmm...maybe one of these years I should have a "themed" calendar, where =
all the pots have something to do with funerary things - urns, or glazed =
w/ ashes or something.....
L
http://www.living-tree.net/calendar.htm=20
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Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 1:08 PM
Subject: Using human ashes to glaze - help
My friend Susan lost her mother and mother-in-law within a week of =
eachother. She was going to make an urn for the ashes but then all the =
children and
grand children wanted one. So she has decided to make vases and glaze =
them with
the mother's ashes.
John Post on tue 18 sep 07
You could always try replacing the whiting in a glaze with the ash.
If there is a large amount of whiting just replace half of it.
Whiting is a flux and so is the ash.
I would try a small test batch of the glaze and see if you are heading
in the right direction with the substitution.
A good resource is Phil Roger's book called Ash Glazes.
John Post
Sterling Heights
John Rodgers on tue 18 sep 07
Rachelle,
In Jeff Zamek's book "What Every Potter Should Know", chapter 23 is
titled "Black Friday". In it he tells the story of his friend and
companion, his black dog named Friday. When the dog died, Zamek
cremated the dog, and use his ashes to make a calcium based glaze he
calls Black Friday. The calcium came from the bone ash of the dog. If
you will read this chapter it will give you some insights into what to
do with the ashes of your friends family in the way of making a calcium
based glaze.
Be careful about bone ash. It is mostly calcium and performs much
different that plant ash.
Regards,
John Rodgers
Chelsea, AL
Rachelle Raphael wrote:
> My friend Susan lost her mother and mother-in-law within a week of each
> other. She was going to make an urn for the ashes but then all the children and
> grand children wanted one. So she has decided to make vases and glaze them with
> the mother's ashes.
>
> We can fire wood, soda, and plain reduction ^10, ^6 electric, as well as
> alternatives like raku and pit firing. She is leaning toward ^10 as that is the
> clay body used and will make the strongest vessel.
>
> One option would be to make an ash glaze although having not used one in the
> studio we don't know what it will look like.
>
> I have also seen ashes placed/sprinkled on the outside of a vessel over the
> glaze. This appeals to me because you can then say, there is mom!
>
> What do you suggest and what might be the best ways to do the two ideas
> above?
>
> Thank you,
>
> rachelle
>
>
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Rikki Gill on tue 18 sep 07
:
>
> Glaze name: Cory's Weird Original
> Cone: 9 - 10
> Color: oatmeal to white
> Testing: Tested thoroughly
> Surface texture: smooth and fatty
> Firing: Reduction
> Glaze type: Satin matt ware glaze
>
> Recipe: Percent
> Nepheline Syenite 32.00
> Whiting 3.00
> Bone Ash 32.00
> Talc 13.00
> Kaolin 18.00
> Silica 2.00
> Totals: 100.00
>
> Comments:
> This is pretty close to the recipe as I used it at Anderson Ranch in
> the seventies. Brush with Fe/Ru for iron red to orange, Fe for rich
> brown, 2Fe/Co for blue-black, Ferric phosphate for iron red, Thinnish
> Co for soft blue. You can view a picture of the glaze here.........
> http://www.murrow.biz/hank/hankweb-all/page4.jpg
>
> Cheers! Hank Murrow
>
> http://www.murrow.biz/hank
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Alisha Clarke on wed 19 sep 07
Rachelle,
A friend and local baker and potter here in western MA did that, and there
was a nice article about it in a local rag. Here's a link to the article:
http://www.valleyadvocate.com/article.cfm?aid=2057 .
Alisha
On 9/18/07, Rachelle Raphael wrote:
>
> My friend Susan lost her mother and mother-in-law within a week of each
> other. She was going to make an urn for the ashes but then all the
> children and
> grand children wanted one. So she has decided to make vases and glaze them
> with
> the mother's ashes.
>
> We can fire wood, soda, and plain reduction ^10, ^6 electric, as well as
> alternatives like raku and pit firing. She is leaning toward ^10 as that
> is the
> clay body used and will make the strongest vessel.
>
> One option would be to make an ash glaze although having not used one in
> the
> studio we don't know what it will look like.
>
> I have also seen ashes placed/sprinkled on the outside of a vessel over
> the
> glaze. This appeals to me because you can then say, there is mom!
>
> What do you suggest and what might be the best ways to do the two ideas
> above?
>
> Thank you,
>
> rachelle
>
>
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Eric Suchman on fri 21 sep 07
I'm not in a too far removed situation and I intend to make several
smaller urns with decorations and glazes that are appropriate. This
takes alittle longer but I don't really care. they will have to
wait. It will be appreciated in the long run.
-eric in oceanside.
On Sep 18, 2007, at 11:25 AM, Mike Gordon wrote:
> You could make the appropriate number of small jars with lids, put the
> person's ashes inside and glaze them shut or glaze them and Epoxy the
> lids on with the ashes inside. Mike Gordon
> On Sep 18, 2007, at 10:08 AM, Rachelle Raphael wrote:
>
>> My friend Susan lost her mother and mother-in-law within a week of
>> each
>> other. She was going to make an urn for the ashes but then all the
>> children and
>> grand children wanted one. So she has decided to make vases and glaze
>> them with
>> the mother's ashes.
>>
>> We can fire wood, soda, and plain reduction ^10, ^6 electric, as well
>> as
>> alternatives like raku and pit firing. She is leaning toward ^10 as
>> that is the
>> clay body used and will make the strongest vessel.
>>
>> One option would be to make an ash glaze although having not used one
>> in the
>> studio we don't know what it will look like.
>>
>> I have also seen ashes placed/sprinkled on the outside of a vessel
>> over the
>> glaze. This appeals to me because you can then say, there is mom!
>>
>> What do you suggest and what might be the best ways to do the two
>> ideas
>> above?
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> rachelle
>>
>>
>> **************************************
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>> http://www.aol.com
>>
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