Carole Fox on tue 11 sep 07
I am looking to purchase some boxes for shipping. I went online and
immediately became overwhelmed by choices. This is my first foray into
packing for shipping. I am planning to bubble wrap, double box with peanuts
between the outer boxes (in bags). (Got all that info from Clayart!) I
figured I should get at least three sizes, with the middle size being size
appropriate for my biggest work. But regarding the weight, I'm clueless. I
would love some advice on buying boxes.
Thanks!!
Carole Fox
Silver Fox Pottery
Elkton, MD
silverfoxpottery@comcast.net
Tom at Hutchtel.net on wed 12 sep 07
I would strongly suggest you go to ULine... www.uline.com . As Mel said
you will have to get 25 at a time, but they are the best price and best
service you will find. Shipping adds to the price so order carefully,
although if you are in one of their cities you can pick up at will call.
A happy customer.
Tom Wirt
Hutchinson, MN
twirt@hutchtel.net
www.claycoyote.com
Carole Fox on wed 12 sep 07
Tom-
I confess I did go to uline.com and then it became decision making time.
What shape? What strength? What size? How many of each?
I don't know where to begin!
Carole Fox
Silver Fox Pottery
Elkton, MD
silverfoxpottery@comcast.net
----- Original Message -----
>I would strongly suggest you go to ULine... www.uline.com . As Mel said
> you will have to get 25 at a time, but they are the best price and best
> service you will find. Shipping adds to the price so order carefully,
> although if you are in one of their cities you can pick up at will call.
>
> A happy customer.
>
> Tom Wirt
Lynn Goodman Porcelain Pottery on wed 12 sep 07
On Sep 12, 2007, at 9:36 AM, Carole Fox wrote:
> Tom-
> I confess I did go to uline.com and then it became decision making
> time.
> What shape? What strength? What size? How many of each?
> I don't know where to begin!
> Carole Fox
> Silver Fox Pottery
> Elkton, MD
> silverfoxpottery@comcast.net
Carole,
Do your pieces fall within a certain size? Get whatever the majority
of your pieces will fit into. Make sure the dimensions allow you to
position your piece in a logical way, to avoid breakage.
Perhaps there are other people you know who may also need boxes--see
if you can do a big order for a few people, then you can mix and
match among the sizes ordered. You can also look around your area; I
buy from a local company, who allow me to buy as few as 10 boxes for
a bundle of some of the large sizes, and 20 boxes per bundle for the
rest. (While U-line is an excellent company, local is better.)
Lynn
Lynn Goodman
Fine Porcelain Pottery
Cell 347-526-9805
www.lynngoodmanporcelain.com
WJ Seidl on wed 12 sep 07
Carole:
Just my 2 cents here, but for the money, I would order the boxes that
are used for the liquid containers,
like gallons and pints, quarts etc. That way they nest one inside the
other, and the sidewalls of those
"use type" boxes are usually thicker and stronger.
Uline also sells "G" gauges, which are little gimcracks you attach to
the outside of your package so that EVERYONE
can see if the box has exceeded the rating. I think the 25 and 50 G
rated ones are about right for pottery. It's in their catalog
and online as well. Fair warned is fair armed, or something like that .
Best,
Wayne Seidl
Carole Fox wrote:
> Tom-
> I confess I did go to uline.com and then it became decision making time.
> What shape? What strength? What size? How many of each?
> I don't know where to begin!
> Carole Fox
> Silver Fox Pottery
> Elkton, MD
> silverfoxpottery@comcast.net
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>> I would strongly suggest you go to ULine... www.uline.com . As Mel
>> said
>> you will have to get 25 at a time, but they are the best price and best
>> service you will find. Shipping adds to the price so order carefully,
>> although if you are in one of their cities you can pick up at will call.
>>
>> A happy customer.
>>
>> Tom Wirt
>
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John Hesselberth on wed 12 sep 07
On Sep 12, 2007, at 8:50 AM, Tom at Hutchtel.net wrote:
> I would strongly suggest you go to ULine... www.uline.com . As
> Mel said
> you will have to get 25 at a time, but they are the best price and
> best
> service you will find. Shipping adds to the price so order carefully,
> although if you are in one of their cities you can pick up at will
> call.
I fully agree with Tom on this. ULine is the best I have found. Their
prices are good, but their service is outstanding. A real person
answers the phone usually by the second ring. They have caller ID so
they know who you are after your first order. There is no need to
repeat addresses or charge card numbers or any of that stuff. You
just confirm that you want it shipped to the same address and billed
the same way as they normally do and you are done. I can generally
place my order in 3 minutes or less with a courteous person who
speaks understandable U.S./Canadian English--sorry but I do get tired
to trying to solve an Earthlink ISP problem with someone in the
Philippines or India who I can hardly understand.
My nearest ULine warehouse in just in New Jersey (I am outside
Philadelphia) so if I call by 6 pm, the order is delivered by UPS the
next day without fail. I have never had them backorder anything. I
suppose it happens occasionally but what I order has always been in
stock. Tom is right that their products are so inexpensive that
shipping adds a significant percentage to the total cost, but overall
they are just outstanding for the combination of price and service.
They are one of a dwindling number of companies that still feels
customer service is important and actually provides it.
Another happy customer,
Regards,
John
John Hesselberth
www.frogpondpottery.com
"Man is a tool-using animal....without tools he is nothing, with
tools he is all" .... Thomas Carlyle
Tom at Hutchtel.net on wed 12 sep 07
Hi Carole,
I know Lynn answered this somewhat. What we do is look at the pieces to be
packed. All our work is wheel thrown so it's round. Find the couple of
diameter sizes that are most frequent like 8 inch diameter and 10 inch
diameter. That means you'll pick the 9" x 9" (to give a bit extra for
packing material) Then pick an 11 x 11 or 12 x 12 size. For height go a
bit higher than the average piece. Remember lids can be flipped over. We
use the multisize where your depth is shown as (for example) 12, 10, 8, 6)
frequently since, while a bit more expensive, we don't have to carry as many
sizes. Then pick an over size to float the little one in. It should be 4
inches wider and longer. So to put a 9 x 9 in, you'd pick a 13 x 13 or 14 x
14. Again the multisize can be handy. For inner packing we use roll ends
from the newspaper (recently discussed) which we are lucky enough to get for
free. Look around you can probably either find newsprint or bubblewrap for
free. (If you've got any High tech companies around, they are good sources
as well as gift shops.) For packing between the inner and outer boxes we
use foam peanuts which we get free from a high tech company...again found
just by asking around. Don't worry about the strength, you won't exceed
single corrugated strength.
If the 25 pack size is too much, which is standard for most of the box
companies, then a few bucks for individual boxes is still not bad. When we
first started out, we found another company and shared box purchases with
them.
If you're doing handbuilt, irregularly shape work, I'd go for the bubble
wrap inside with the box an inch or so bigger each way than the piece.
Then, again, bump it up 4" (2" per side) all around and use peanuts.
Hope this helps.
Tom Wirt
Hutchinson, MN
twirt@hutchtel.net
www.claycoyote.com
----- Original Message -----
Subject: Re: weight for shipping boxes?
> What shape? What strength? What size? How many of each?
> I don't know where to begin!
> Carole Fox
Carole Fox on thu 13 sep 07
Gosh, everyone. Thanks for the box info. I have no qualms with buying lots
of 25. But are you saying that you individually box each item- or just the
large or complicated pieces? I am packing more than 50 pots for this
gallery. I was planning to put alike items bubble wrapped in a box with
peanuts in the spaces and then double box. Is there a limit to the size box
I should consider? My pots range from mugs to 18" lidded pots. Many pots
have little doo-hickies sticking out - I'll box them separately or bubble
wrap the heck out of them. Can I pack more than one inside box into a large
outside box? What is the largest size to consider for an outside box?
I'm sorry to ask so many questions. Can you tell I'm a little anxious about
this?
Carole Fox
Silver Fox Pottery
Elkton, MD
silverfoxpottery@comcast.net
Lynn Goodman Porcelain Pottery on thu 13 sep 07
But are you saying that you individually box each item- or just the
> large or complicated pieces? I am packing more than 50 pots for this
> gallery. I was planning to put alike items bubble wrapped in a box
> with
> peanuts in the spaces and then double box. Is there a limit to the
> size box
> I should consider? My pots range from mugs to 18" lidded pots. Many
> pots
> have little doo-hickies sticking out - I'll box them separately or
> bubble
> wrap the heck out of them. Can I pack more than one inside box into
> a large
> outside box? What is the largest size to consider for an outside box?
Carole,
You can pack many pieces into one box. You can bubble wrap them or
put them into smaller boxes. The important thing is to immobilize
them so that they do not jostle in the box.
Lynn
Charlie Cummings on thu 13 sep 07
Carole,
The limit to box size is an economical question. Check with the
company you intend to use to ship the boxes. Both heavy boxes and
very large boxes can incur extra charges. At the same time, it may
be cheaper to send several large boxes than to ship half a dozen small boxes.
You can pack as many small boxes as you like inside your larger
boxes. Just be sure to leave at least 2 inches of packing material
between the inside and outside boxes.
If your 'doo-hickies' are especially fragile, you can cut sections of
cardboard tube to fit over them (with plenty of space on all sides.)
Tape the tube to the piece before you put on the bubble wrap.
When it comes to bubble wrap, I've found that masking tape is
friendlier to the person who unpacks the pots. Blue painter's tape
is more expensive, but it comes off with no damage to the packing
material. Clear packing tape is the worst. It is hard to see, you
almost always have to cut it to retrieve the pot, and it makes it
hard to reuse the bubble wrap.
Best wishes,
Charlie Cummings
Charlie Cummings Clay Studio & Gallery
4130 South Clinton Street
Fort Wayne, IN 46806
Charlie@claylink.com
260-458-9160
www.claylink.com
liz gowen on thu 13 sep 07
Carol, I do a lot of web based buying so receive a lot of shipped items. =
You
can bubble wrap a number of items in the same inner box. Wrap each one =
well
with bubble wrap, 2 layers, more if larger and heavier, make sure they =
all
fit comfortably not overstuffed in that will create stress on the work =
but
filling the voids with packing so it doesn't shift. Then do the same for =
the
outer. I recived 6 berry size bowls from the Cuzicks in Calif.to NJ =
Very
nicely packed no problem. The box was large but not too heavy. Liz =
gowen
Li
Gosh, everyone. Thanks for the box info. I have no qualms with buying =
lots
of 25. But are you saying that you individually box each item- or just =
the
large or complicated pieces?=20
WJ Seidl on thu 13 sep 07
Carole:
No matter what you decide for packing, individual or groups,
please remember to include a packing list in each box, so that the
receiver knows that there
are "X" number of pieces in it.
It wouldn't do to have some work thrown away, with the easy excuse "but
I didn't see anything else"
brandished.
Best,
Wayne Seidl
Carole Fox wrote:
> Gosh, everyone. Thanks for the box info. I have no qualms with buying
> lots
> of 25. But are you saying that you individually box each item- or just
> the
> large or complicated pieces? I am packing more than 50 pots for this
> gallery. I was planning to put alike items bubble wrapped in a box with
> peanuts in the spaces and then double box. Is there a limit to the
> size box
> I should consider? My pots range from mugs to 18" lidded pots. Many pots
> have little doo-hickies sticking out - I'll box them separately or bubble
> wrap the heck out of them. Can I pack more than one inside box into a
> large
> outside box? What is the largest size to consider for an outside box?
>
> I'm sorry to ask so many questions. Can you tell I'm a little anxious
> about
> this?
> Carole Fox
> Silver Fox Pottery
> Elkton, MD
> silverfoxpottery@comcast.net
>
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Carole Fox on fri 14 sep 07
Ok- I think I have some inkling now how to go about this packing job. I so
much appreciate your help, all who chimed in. But....I must tell you....I
went on line to figure out what size boxes to get and I was considering the
sizes of my work, making a list, and then....Cripes!!!!- I forgot to
consider that each piece would have several layers of bubble wrap on it.
Now you guys know why I ask so many questions.
Mom always said, "Better to ask..."
Carole Fox
Silver Fox Pottery
Elkton, MD
silverfoxpottery@comcast.net
Bob Santerre on fri 14 sep 07
Hi Carole,
What works for us is the following:
12" cube, 14" cube, 16" cube, 18" cube, 20x20x12 (for large flat things)
18"cube is just under the USP's oversize limit. All are 275 # burst
strength.
We buy locally, but U-Line is a good company.
Good luck, Bob
Arrowsic Island Pottery
344 Old Stage Road
Arrowsic, ME 04530
(207) 443-5858
(207) 443-6333 FAX
aipots@gwi.net
http://arrowsicislandpottery.com
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Carole Fox wrote:
> Tom-
> I confess I did go to uline.com and then it became decision making time.
> What shape? What strength? What size? How many of each?
> I don't know where to begin!
> Carole Fox
> Silver Fox Pottery
> Elkton, MD
> silverfoxpottery@comcast.net
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>> I would strongly suggest you go to ULine... www.uline.com . As Mel
>> said
>> you will have to get 25 at a time, but they are the best price and best
>> service you will find. Shipping adds to the price so order carefully,
>> although if you are in one of their cities you can pick up at will call.
>>
>> A happy customer.
>>
>> Tom Wirt
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________________________
>
> Send postings to clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
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> settings from http://www.ceramics.org/clayart/
>
> Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
> melpots2@visi.com
>
>
>
KATHI LESUEUR on fri 14 sep 07
On Sep 14, 2007, at 9:01 AM, Carole Fox wrote:
> Ok- I think I have some inkling now how to go about this packing
> job. I so
> much appreciate your help, all who chimed in. But....I must tell
> you....I
> went on line to figure out what size boxes to get and I was
> considering the
> sizes of my work, making a list, and then....Cripes!!!!- I forgot to
> consider that each piece would have several layers of bubble wrap
> on it.
> Now you guys know why I ask so many questions.>>
I personally have found that the 24x18x18 box is the most efficient
for an outer box. Buy from a local large box supplier if at all
possible.
Kathi
>
>
>
Jennifer Boyer on fri 14 sep 07
Another thing you should do when putting multiples in one box is to
lay a piece of cardboard between each layer of items. When packing
small items you may have up to 5 or so layers of items per box.
The cardboard really helps even out the stresses...
Jennifer
On Sep 14, 2007, at 11:02 AM, KATHI LESUEUR wrote:
> On Sep 14, 2007, at 9:01 AM, Carole Fox wrote:
>
>> Ok- I think I have some inkling now how to go about this packing
>> job. I so
>> much appreciate your help, all who chimed in. But....I must tell
>> you....I
>> went on line to figure out what size boxes to get and I was
>> considering the
>> sizes of my work, making a list, and then....Cripes!!!!- I forgot to
>> consider that each piece would have several layers of bubble wrap
>> on it.
>> Now you guys know why I ask so many questions.>>
>
>
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Jennifer Boyer
Thistle Hill Pottery
Montpelier, VT
http://thistlehillpottery.com
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