David Hendley on thu 13 sep 07
Bosch jig saws are generally considered to be the best
brand, at least that was true a few years ago, and I
haven't kept up recently.
I bought mine about 15 years ago and it has provided
great service. It has infinitely variable speed and 4 "orbit
settings" - this makes the blade move back and forth
as well as up and down. You definitely want both these
features.
DeWalt is considered a good quality brand of power tools,
but Black & Decker is strictly "consumer quality", made
to sell cheap but not for heavy contractor-type use.
There are lots of ways to make tools cheaper - bushings
instead of bearings, believe it or not, plastic motor frames,
cheap switches, etc.
With power tools you really do usually get what you pay for.
David Hendley
Maydelle, Texas
david(at)farmpots(dot)com
http://www.farmpots.com
----- Original Message -----
I am looking into a heavy duty jig saw for cutting bats from ½" hardy backer
board with a carbide bit and also for cutting them from plywood - but it is
the backer board that really gives them a hard workout. I pretty much ruined
a cheap skill saw I had laying around doing this - it still works a little
but not very well so I am thinking about getting a good one. What's the best
you can get for about $100? DeWalt has one for that price, about 5 amps, but
then sitting right next to it a Lowes was a black & decker one, rated for
6.5 amps, for only $70 - so that should be the more heavy duty one, right?
Paul Borian on thu 13 sep 07
I am looking into a heavy duty jig saw for cutting bats from =BD" hardy =
backer board with a carbide bit and also for cutting them from plywood - =
but it is the backer board that really gives them a hard workout. I =
pretty much ruined a cheap skill saw I had laying around doing this - it =
still works a little but not very well so I am thinking about getting a =
good one. What's the best you can get for about $100? DeWalt has one for =
that price, about 5 amps, but then sitting right next to it a Lowes was =
a black & decker one, rated for 6.5 amps, for only $70 - so that should =
be the more heavy duty one, right? So why would it be cheaper? B&D have =
been around a long time - they made the first cordless drill I believe - =
so I would figure them to be of pretty good quality.
Any advice out there on how to pick the right jigsaw that will last a =
lifetime?
Thanks,
Paul
Brandon Phillips on fri 14 sep 07
i believe i heard somewhere that black =26 decker produces dewalt=2E i =
don=27t know if thats true=2E dewalt is a contractor grade tool made fo=
r constant use and abuse while a brand like black and decker is made for=
occasional do it yourself projects=2E but of course i used to own a b=26=
d firestorm drill that way out-performed my craftsman =22professional=22=
series drill=2E so who knows=2E i think though that the best bet for =
your money would be a makita or porter-cable if you could find one in yo=
ur price range=2E i=27ve worked construction for awhile and both makita=
and porter-cable knock the socks off of dewalt=2C in my opinion=2E cut=
ting through 1/2=22 hardi-board is pretty heavy-duty=2C so i would inves=
t wisely=2E and make sure you blow out the saw housing real good becaus=
e that cement dust will mess up the motor=2C i ruined a circular saw tha=
t way=2E
brandon phillips
http=3A//www=2Esupportyourlocalpotter=2Ecom
----- Original Message -----
From=3A Paul Borian =
Date=3A Thursday=2C September 13=2C 2007 10=3A22 pm
Subject=3A what=27s the best jig saw for the money=3F
To=3A CLAYART=40LSV=2ECERAMICS=2EORG
=3E I am looking into a heavy duty jig saw for cutting bats from =BD=22 =
=3E hardy backer board with a carbide bit and also for cutting them =
=3E from plywood - but it is the backer board that really gives them =
=3E a hard workout=2E I pretty much ruined a cheap skill saw I had =
=3E laying around doing this - it still works a little but not very =
=3E well so I am thinking about getting a good one=2E What=27s the best =
=3E you can get for about =24100=3F DeWalt has one for that price=2C abo=
ut =
=3E 5 amps=2C but then sitting right next to it a Lowes was a black =26 =
=3E decker one=2C rated for 6=2E5 amps=2C for only =2470 - so that shoul=
d be =
=3E the more heavy duty one=2C right=3F So why would it be cheaper=3F B=26=
D =
=3E have been around a long time - they made the first cordless =
=3E drill I believe - so I would figure them to be of pretty good qualit=
y=2E
=3E =
=3E Any advice out there on how to pick the right jigsaw that will =
=3E last a lifetime=3F
=3E =
=3E Thanks=2C
=3E =
=3E Paul
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John Hesselberth on fri 14 sep 07
On Sep 13, 2007, at 10:08 PM, Paul Borian wrote:
> DeWalt has one for that price, about 5 amps, but then sitting right
> next to it a Lowes was a black & decker one, rated for 6.5 amps,
> for only $70 - so that should be the more heavy duty one, right? So
> why would it be cheaper? B&D have been around a long time - they
> made the first cordless drill I believe - so I would figure them to
> be of pretty good quality.
If I'm not mistaken DeWalt and B&D are the same company. DeWalt is
their professional line meant for hard service and B&D is their
cheaply made home line meant for light service. I have had so much
trouble with B&D that they are on my "never buy again" list. Just my
experience and opinion.
Regards,
John
John Hesselberth
www.frogpondpottery.com
"Man is a tool-using animal....without tools he is nothing, with
tools he is all" .... Thomas Carlyle
pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on fri 14 sep 07
Hi Paul,
As far as I recall or know -
"Bosch"...progressive variable speed, adjustable rake...so far as Hand Held
'Jig Saws' are concerned.
http://www.boschtools.com/tools/tools-subcategory.htm?H=175981&G=54927
New, or used, either way...they are very good, practical, durable Electric
Tools.
The two I have are about 28 or 30 years old now, one I bought new, the
other used.
These are the very clean 'Barrel Grip' ones...and I see they sort of fiddled
with the design since, but the old ones were the cleanest and most elegant
design wise.
If I needed one now, I would go on e-bay and look for one which is about
25 - 30 years old...or is the older design. I do not care for the 'Top
Handle' style.
If you are going to do an e-bay search use "Jig Saw" and "Jigsaw" also...
The various Bosch models I would expect are all very well made, or at least
used to be...and
are quiet, very long lived/durable, powerful, and have very sensible
features and work well for wide ranging materials, and one can get the
various proprietary Blades anywhere.
Phil
l v
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Borian"
I am looking into a heavy duty jig saw for cutting bats from ½" hardy backer
board with a carbide bit and also for cutting them from plywood - but it is
the backer board that really gives them a hard workout. I pretty much ruined
a cheap skill saw I had laying around doing this - it still works a little
but not very well so I am thinking about getting a good one. What's the best
you can get for about $100? DeWalt has one for that price, about 5 amps, but
then sitting right next to it a Lowes was a black & decker one, rated for
6.5 amps, for only $70 - so that should be the more heavy duty one, right?
So why would it be cheaper? B&D have been around a long time - they made the
first cordless drill I believe - so I would figure them to be of pretty good
quality.
Any advice out there on how to pick the right jigsaw that will last a
lifetime?
Thanks,
Paul
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Michael Wendt on fri 14 sep 07
I too have a Bosch, the newer model. It now has
tool-less blade change and still holds up the way
it should.
The only bad thing about the new design is the
handle on top has a trigger so big you go to
pick it up and the !%#!!! thing switches on. It takes
a while to learn a new way of picking it up to avoid
this
but other than that, it works the best of any I
have ever owned.
Regards,
Michael Wendt
Wendt Pottery
2729 Clearwater Ave.
Lewiston, Id 83501
U.S.A.
208-746-3724
wendtpot@lewiston.com
http://www.wendtpottery.com
http://UniquePorcelainDesigns.com
Adding to Phil's comments:
If you are going to do an e-bay search use "Jig Saw"
and "Jigsaw" also...
The various Bosch models I would expect are all very
well made, or at least
used to be...and
are quiet, very long lived/durable, powerful, and have
very sensible
features and work well for wide ranging materials, and
one can get the
various proprietary Blades anywhere.
Phil
l v
Gayle Bair on fri 14 sep 07
Paul,
Have you looked at this tool ?
DEWALT D28605 Heavy-Duty 1/2-Inch Variable Speed Cement Shear
Gayle Bair
Bainbridge Island, WA
Tucson, AZ
http://claybair.com
From: Paul Borian
> I am looking into a heavy duty jig saw for cutting bats from ½"
> hardy backer board with a carbide bit and also for cutting them
> from plywood - but it is the backer board that really gives them
> a hard workout. I pretty much ruined a cheap skill saw I had
> laying around doing this - it still works a little but not very
> well so I am thinking about getting a good one.
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WJ Seidl on fri 14 sep 07
Paul:
NO!
Don't do it!
Do NOT buy a good jigsaw and use it to cut HardieBacker.
The dust will get into the motor, no matter how fast the internal fan=20
blows it back out
and destroy the bearings. Been there, done that.
Buy a good jigsaw and keep it around for other projects.
Buy a yard sale jig saw and use it for HardieBacker. $10-30 max. is=20
what you will probably spend.
Then, when it dies (and it will eventually), roll your eyes, say "oh=20
well" and throw it away.=20
No sharp stabbing pains in your wallet. Pawn shops usually have decent=20
tools cheap.
Just for the record, I bought a (very) used Sears jigsaw back in 1980=20
for $20. It lasted almost 25 years.
The HardieBacker killed it dead. I took it apart, resurrected it once,=20
cut ten more bats, and it died again.
That time, it went to its reward.
Best,
Wayne Seidl
Paul Borian wrote:
> I am looking into a heavy duty jig saw for cutting bats from =BD" hardy=
backer board with a carbide bit and also for cutting them from plywood -=
but it is the backer board that really gives them a hard workout. I pret=
ty much ruined a cheap skill saw I had laying around doing this - it stil=
l works a little but not very well so I am thinking about getting a good =
one. What's the best you can get for about $100? DeWalt has one for that =
price, about 5 amps, but then sitting right next to it a Lowes was a blac=
k & decker one, rated for 6.5 amps, for only $70 - so that should be the =
more heavy duty one, right? So why would it be cheaper? B&D have been aro=
und a long time - they made the first cordless drill I believe - so I wou=
ld figure them to be of pretty good quality.
>
> Any advice out there on how to pick the right jigsaw that will last a l=
ifetime?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul
>
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pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on fri 14 sep 07
Hi Wayne,
Good point...
I totally was not thinking of the 'HardieBacker' part of his question.
e-bay is an excellent place for getting any sort of Tools, and old and not
so old cheap
whateverbrand Jig Saws are abundant for four or five bucks or less, any
day...and with another five or six or eight postage, one would not even have
to leave home to get one, nor to spend much.
One could also, likely, just adhere some sheet Cardboard on the
'HardieBacker' and with a Jig Saw, cut it that way at a slowish speed, and
have little to no dust...or, flow Water on it as one is cutting, and
likewise, have no dust at all, just being careful not to get Water on the
Saw or into the Motor.
Phil
l v
----- Original Message -----
From: "WJ Seidl"
Paul:
NO!
Don't do it!
Do NOT buy a good jigsaw and use it to cut HardieBacker.
The dust will get into the motor, no matter how fast the internal fan
blows it back out
and destroy the bearings. Been there, done that.
Buy a good jigsaw and keep it around for other projects.
Buy a yard sale jig saw and use it for HardieBacker. $10-30 max. is
what you will probably spend.
Then, when it dies (and it will eventually), roll your eyes, say "oh
well" and throw it away.
No sharp stabbing pains in your wallet. Pawn shops usually have decent
tools cheap.
Just for the record, I bought a (very) used Sears jigsaw back in 1980
for $20. It lasted almost 25 years.
The HardieBacker killed it dead. I took it apart, resurrected it once,
cut ten more bats, and it died again.
That time, it went to its reward.
Best,
Wayne Seidl
Paul Borian wrote:
> I am looking into a heavy duty jig saw for cutting bats from ½" hardy
> backer board with a carbide bit and also for cutting them from plywood -
> but it is the backer board that really gives them a hard workout. I pretty
> much ruined a cheap skill saw I had laying around doing this - it still
> works a little but not very well so I am thinking about getting a good
> one. What's the best you can get for about $100? DeWalt has one for that
> price, about 5 amps, but then sitting right next to it a Lowes was a black
> & decker one, rated for 6.5 amps, for only $70 - so that should be the
> more heavy duty one, right? So why would it be cheaper? B&D have been
> around a long time - they made the first cordless drill I believe - so I
> would figure them to be of pretty good quality.
>
> Any advice out there on how to pick the right jigsaw that will last a
> lifetime?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul
>
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Michael Wendt on fri 14 sep 07
Paul,
Harbor Freight sells carbide grit saw blades for the
Bosch.
Soak the board in water first. Then cut it wet so there
is no dust to contend with.
Regards,
Michael Wendt
Wendt Pottery
2729 Clearwater Ave.
Lewiston, Id 83501
U.S.A.
208-746-3724
wendtpot@lewiston.com
http://www.wendtpottery.com
http://UniquePorcelainDesigns.com
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