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glaze as adhesive?

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Fred Parker on sat 6 oct 07


I'm making some berry bowls, each of which sits in a small saucer. The
bowls have drain holes inside the footring, and the footring itself is
notched to allow residual rinse water to drain into the saucer.

Now that all the pieces are in the bisque kiln I'm thinking they might
work better with the saucers permanently attached to the bowls. Can I
(successfully) position the glazed bisqueware bowl in its respective
glazed bisqueware saucer before the glaze firing and have them come out
permanently stuck together? Is this a satisfactory procedure or a bad
idea? Does it invite hygiene problems?

Many thanks,

Fred Parker

Lynn Goodman Porcelain Pottery on sat 6 oct 07


>
> Now that all the pieces are in the bisque kiln I'm thinking they might
> work better with the saucers permanently attached to the bowls. Can I
> (successfully) position the glazed bisqueware bowl in its respective
> glazed bisqueware saucer before the glaze firing and have them come
> out
> permanently stuck together? Is this a satisfactory procedure or a bad
> idea? Does it invite hygiene problems?

Hi Fred,

Yes, they will stick together, but it isn't a strong hold. Glaze can
craze and crack--and it can do so at the "seam." You're better off
selling them together as a set instead of as a single item. (And you
can probably get more money for them that way!)

Lynn


Lynn Goodman
Fine Porcelain Pottery
Cell 347-526-9805
www.lynngoodmanporcelain.com

Kathy Stecker on sat 6 oct 07


Fred asked about joining his berry bowls to his saucers with glaze.

Think about the function of the berry bowl-I don't think this is a good idea
although it might work. I wash my berries in the berry bowl , shake out the
water or let it sit in the sink a bit then set the bowl on the saucer to catch
any remaining water. If the saucer is attached you would need to wipe off
the saucer with a towel before placing it on the table- possibly staining the
towel with berry juice as well.

Kathy Stecker
From Sunny Winter Springs Florida USA

Missing those colorful Pittsburgh leaves which won't be back on those trees
in March




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Dannon Rhudy on sat 6 oct 07


It invites cleaning problems, and it
invites breakage, too. Think of the
ubiquitous "chip & dip" sets. Better
to have the pieces separate. And more
useful. That has been my experience.

However, you COULD glaze them together
if you wished.

regards

Dannon Rhudy

Paul Lewing on sat 6 oct 07


On Oct 6, 2007, at 11:35 AM, Fred Parker wrote:

Now that all the pieces are in the bisque kiln I'm thinking they might
work better with the saucers permanently attached to the bowls. Can I
(successfully) position the glazed bisqueware bowl in its respective
glazed bisqueware saucer before the glaze firing and have them come out
permanently stuck together?
You know how you always wax the parts of pots that might stick
together if they touch with glaze on them? Well, don't! Just glaze
both the bottom of the cup and the top of the saucer, and fire the
cup sitting in the saucer. You'll never get them apart.

Paul Lewing
www.paullewingtile.com

Rikki Gill on sat 6 oct 07


Hi Fred,

When I made berry bowls, I made a small saucer that was seperate and the
bowl rested on its highish top edge. I trimmed the top piece to fit the
edge. The profile was attractive, and it looked like one piece. It was
easy to wash as well.

I have glazed glued things from time to time. The problem is that when the
glaze is molten the top could slip off center.

Hope this helps.

Rikki Gill
rikigil@sbcglobal.net
www.rikkigillceramics.com
www.berkeleypotters.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Parker"
To:
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 11:35 AM
Subject: Glaze as adhesive?


> I'm making some berry bowls, each of which sits in a small saucer. The
> bowls have drain holes inside the footring, and the footring itself is
> notched to allow residual rinse water to drain into the saucer.
>
> Now that all the pieces are in the bisque kiln I'm thinking they might
> work better with the saucers permanently attached to the bowls. Can I
> (successfully) position the glazed bisqueware bowl in its respective
> glazed bisqueware saucer before the glaze firing and have them come out
> permanently stuck together? Is this a satisfactory procedure or a bad
> idea? Does it invite hygiene problems?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Fred Parker
>
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Fred Parker on sun 7 oct 07


Thanks, Dannon. After pondering the question I came to the same
conclusion. However, good to know I COULD do it if I wanted to.

Thanks again,

Fred


On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 18:50:02 -0500, Dannon Rhudy wrote:

>It invites cleaning problems, and it
>invites breakage, too. Think of the
>ubiquitous "chip & dip" sets. Better
>to have the pieces separate. And more
>useful. That has been my experience.
>
>However, you COULD glaze them together
>if you wished.
>
>regards
>
>Dannon Rhudy
>
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Fred Parker on sun 7 oct 07


Thanks, Rikki. SOunds like your solution is very nice -- elegant, so to
speak. I've about decided I don't want to stick the two pieces together.
WOuld be hard to clean, etc.

Thanks again. For future bowls I'm gonna work harder on making the two
pieces appear as if they want to be together, as you do.

Fred


On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 12:33:41 -0700, Rikki Gill
wrote:

>Hi Fred,
>
>When I made berry bowls, I made a small saucer that was seperate and the
>bowl rested on its highish top edge. I trimmed the top piece to fit the
>edge. The profile was attractive, and it looked like one piece. It was
>easy to wash as well.
>
>I have glazed glued things from time to time. The problem is that when
the
>glaze is molten the top could slip off center.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>Rikki Gill
>rikigil@sbcglobal.net
>www.rikkigillceramics.com
>www.berkeleypotters.com
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Fred Parker"
>To:
>Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 11:35 AM
>Subject: Glaze as adhesive?
>
>
>> I'm making some berry bowls, each of which sits in a small saucer. The
>> bowls have drain holes inside the footring, and the footring itself is
>> notched to allow residual rinse water to drain into the saucer.
>>
>> Now that all the pieces are in the bisque kiln I'm thinking they might
>> work better with the saucers permanently attached to the bowls. Can I
>> (successfully) position the glazed bisqueware bowl in its respective
>> glazed bisqueware saucer before the glaze firing and have them come out
>> permanently stuck together? Is this a satisfactory procedure or a bad
>> idea? Does it invite hygiene problems?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Fred Parker
>>
>>
___________________________________________________________________________
___
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>>
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>> melpots2@visi.com
>>
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>
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