Earl Krueger on fri 5 oct 07
So, I've finally got a place to set up
a glaze making lab, but how to store
50lb bags of materials?
At first I thought some of those bins
that bakers use for holding flour would
be the answer but at a couple of
hundred bucks apiece forget that !
In Ron and John's MC6G there is a
photo of a rack with plastic bins with
slanted tip up lids but an evening of
googling for something like this has
proven fruitless.
In John Britt's Cone 10 Glazes there
is a photo of a wooden bench with
tilt-out bins and shelves above. Looks
like almost the ideal situation but I
would rather spend what little time I
have available making pottery than
being a woodworker.
Anybody got any other suggestions?
Earl Krueger
Elmira, Oregon, usa
Earl Krueger on sat 6 oct 07
Thanks to everyone but it turns out I solved
my own problem.
Wife says I want to show you something at
Bi-Mart (an employee owned store like a
mini-Wall-Mart here in a town of only 4000).
While there I wandered over to the trash
can department and there they were.
Sterilite #1077 Touch-Top 28qt wastebaskets.
The lid latches closed yet springs open
with a simple press on the latch. Easier
and less dusty than unfolding a paper bag.
Holdsa whole 50lb bag of silica but only 3/4
of EPK. $9 each. Bought the store out but
still one can short.
Earl Krueger
Elmira (sometimes Veneta), Oregon, usa
Fred Parker on sat 6 oct 07
Hey Earl:
I mix glazes at a smaller scale, so most of my materials are in smaller
quantities than 100#.. However, I do buy some materials by the bag
(silica, EPK etc.) and I store those in plastic storage containers from
WalMart. They're the big see-though plastic bins with the snap-on plastic
lids -- eight bucks or so apiece. Each will hold a full bag and you can
stack them 2 high.
Fred Parker
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 22:31:58 -0700, Earl Krueger
wrote:
>So, I've finally got a place to set up
>a glaze making lab, but how to store
>50lb bags of materials?
>
>At first I thought some of those bins
>that bakers use for holding flour would
>be the answer but at a couple of
>hundred bucks apiece forget that !
>
>In Ron and John's MC6G there is a
>photo of a rack with plastic bins with
>slanted tip up lids but an evening of
>googling for something like this has
>proven fruitless.
>
>In John Britt's Cone 10 Glazes there
>is a photo of a wooden bench with
>tilt-out bins and shelves above. Looks
>like almost the ideal situation but I
>would rather spend what little time I
>have available making pottery than
>being a woodworker.
>
>Anybody got any other suggestions?
>
>Earl Krueger
>Elmira, Oregon, usa
>
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Ric Swenson on sat 6 oct 07
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Jennifer Buckner on sat 6 oct 07
At 01:31 AM 10/6/2007, Earl Krueger wrote:
>So, I've finally got a place to set up
>a glaze making lab, but how to store
>50lb bags of materials?
>
>At first I thought some of those bins
>that bakers use for holding flour would
>be the answer but at a couple of
>hundred bucks apiece forget that !
Earl,
Check out the plastic kitchen garbage cans at Walmart. They'll hold
a 50 lb bag and have removable lids with swinging
tops. Alternatively, you could just use regular plastic garbage cans
but they are generally larger than you need and take up more
space. If you need to move them around in your studio, put them on
small dollies such as the ones I recently recommended from Lee
Valley.
Jennifer in northern VT
Jennifer G. Buckner jennifer@buckner.cc
WJ Seidl on sat 6 oct 07
Earl:
I went to www.containerandpackaging.com
and bought a bunch of one gallon size plastic tubs (white)
($.31 each) and lids to match ($.17 each).
Label with a permanent marker, since they're solid white.
I think I remember buying 100 of each. Cheap that way.
From there, it was a simple matter of running down to my local
Home Despot and buying one of the tall Rubbermaid
"outdoor" storage sheds...the one with shelves ($159.00 IIRC)
and doors that I can lock, since I store it all outside.
Splitting the 50# bags into "workable" size quantities was better for me.
I just stick large quantities (like half a bag) into 5 gallon buckets.
Slap a lid on it and stack them.
Sure saves my back, and they'll last 4ever, (besides being waterproof
and insect proof)
Just Google "containers" and go from there. More options than you can
fling a bag of
FHC* at.
Another option might be to consider those "AkroBin" tubs that Harbor
Freight and the others sell.
Trouble with those is that they're open...no lids, but they do have
wonderful options for stacking
and shelving. Me personally, I like hermetically sealed containers.
Keeps the riffraff (lizards and scorpions) out .
Of course ,being the cheap ba*tard I am, I use those 39 ounce red
plastic coffee containers that Folgers comes in
(and a neighbor gives me for free) for "hazardous" materials like copper
carb, lithium, etc. Easy to spot.
Best,
Wayne Seidl
*Foundry Hill Creme
Earl Krueger wrote:
> So, I've finally got a place to set up
> a glaze making lab, but how to store
> 50lb bags of materials?
>
> At first I thought some of those bins
> that bakers use for holding flour would
> be the answer but at a couple of
> hundred bucks apiece forget that !
>
> In Ron and John's MC6G there is a
> photo of a rack with plastic bins with
> slanted tip up lids but an evening of
> googling for something like this has
> proven fruitless.
>
> In John Britt's Cone 10 Glazes there
> is a photo of a wooden bench with
> tilt-out bins and shelves above. Looks
> like almost the ideal situation but I
> would rather spend what little time I
> have available making pottery than
> being a woodworker.
>
> Anybody got any other suggestions?
>
> Earl Krueger
> Elmira, Oregon, usa
>
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Michael Wendt on sat 6 oct 07
Earl,
We went to Costco and got 2 Gorilla Racks.
We always leave the materials in the original bags
so there are no mistakes since they are almost
all just white powders.
Lets you stack the materials from floor to ceiling
if you wish.
Regards,
Michael Wendt
Wendt Pottery
2729 Clearwater Ave.
Lewiston, Id 83501
U.S.A.
208-746-3724
wendtpot@lewiston.com
http://www.wendtpottery.com
http://UniquePorcelainDesigns.com
Dale Neese on sun 7 oct 07
When storing your glaze making materials in plastic containers be aware that
some plastics exposed to the sun-heat-cold deteriorate quickly over time.
Even the five gallon buckets from the local big box store. Some plastics
will degrade just sitting around in the studio. I've had one or two buckets
waste away filled with glaze materials. It makes a big mess should one split
open dumping contents on the floor. Rims crack, tops fall in if another
bucket is stacked on top. The lighter color 5 gallon buckets, white
especially, seem to be the worst. These include white plastic trash cans
with the swinging lid. Clear thin plastic boxes are trouble. More durable
containers are the Rubbermaid brand rectangular with the snap on lid. They
come in several sizes and will hold a 50 lb. bag. If you store any of your
materials in containers other than the bag be sure to mark the outside of
the container. I also tear off the identifying end of the paper bag that the
material came in and put it on top inside the container so when it's time to
order more you know the manufacturer so that you come close to getting the
same grade of materials from your supplier. Keep a look out for 5 gallon
buckets that have previously held other materials. 5 gallon green pickle
buckets from hamburger joints hold up much better than brand new. I got a
bunch for a buck a piece and asked the deli to hold more for me.
Many years ago when I worked for a roto gravure printing company where we
copper plated printing cylinders for the press, small copper ingots for the
plating tanks were bought in BLACK 5 gallon buckets with lids. I managed to
get a hold of several of them. I still have all of them today storing dry
glaze ingredients with no problem what so ever.
Same type of cracking problems happen to containers for liquid glazes. I
purchase 30 gallon Rubbermaid, Roughneck storage containers from a local
restaurant supply store. The dark gray containers have held up for glazes
very well over the years. Avoid the pretty Rubbermaid yellow buckets. They
go down really quick in comparison to the others. First thing the handles
crack off, then the lid splits. Better transfer what ever is in the yellow
bucket before the whole thing collapses. The strain on the handles and
buckets are lessened by having some wheeled platforms underneath the buckets
to move them. Avoid strong sunlight,heat and freezing temperatures and your
storage containers will last a good long time.
Dale Tex
"across the alley from the Alamo"
San Antonio, Texas USA
Nancy Udell on sun 7 oct 07
So, I've finally got a place to set up
a glaze making lab, but how to store
50lb bags of materials?
Hi Earl, I don't know what size batches you are making, but I find
that having 25lb of most materials on hand is fine -- and they fit
nicely in see thru plastic (rectangular) containers that have good
fitting lids and can sit on shelves. You know the ones i mean, you
can get them at wal mart or target or any place. They are not too
heavy to lift up and down.
Nancy Udell
Santa Fe, New Mexico
505.984.9907
www.clayandcolor.net
Lea Holland on sun 7 oct 07
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 22:31:58 -0700, Earl Krueger wrote:
>So, I've finally got a place to set up
>a glaze making lab, but how to store
>50lb bags of materials?
>
>At first I thought some of those bins
>that bakers use for holding flour would
>be the answer but at a couple of
>hundred bucks apiece forget that !
>Anybody got any other suggestions?
>
>Earl Krueger
>Elmira, Oregon, usa
Earl:
I wrestled with this problem also, and being an organization freak, I wanted
just the right, cost-effective solution. I found some nice stackable
recycling bins at US Plastics.com, but I don't think they carry them any
longer. However, I've been eying these stackable pet food dispensers,
"Vittle Vaults"-- you don't need to unload the bin stack to get to your
chemicals on the bottom, the mouth is large enough to get a scoop in, and
they're airtight. They're sturdier than the generic plastic boxes with loose
lids, and they're a lot cheaper than the commercial bakers bins.
http://tinyurl.com/37wcte
Best,
Lea Holland
Memphis, TN
John Hesselberth on sun 7 oct 07
On Oct 6, 2007, at 8:28 PM, Ric Swenson wrote:
>> In Ron and John's MC6G there is a> photo of a rack with plastic
>> bins with> slanted tip up lids but an evening of> googling for
>> something like this has> proven fruitless.> >
Hi Earl,
I got mine at IKEA. Go to
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/90076364
These are not heavy duty enough to be self supporting when loaded
with 50 lbs of clay or whatever. Note that I built a frame out of
angle and plywood to support each layer.
Regards,
John
John Hesselberth
www.frogpondpottery.com
"Man is a tool-using animal....without tools he is nothing, with
tools he is all" .... Thomas Carlyle
Linda Fox Firstman on sun 7 oct 07
I use rectangular rolling containers used for dog food storage (the larger
size) purchased from The Container Store. A 50 lb. bag fits perfectly in
them, they don't take up much space and they roll under our glazing counter.
They are a little pricey but when you consider the fact that they come with
wheels and last forever it is not so bad.
Good luck,
Linda Fox
Lee Love on sat 13 oct 07
I think mine were yellow tuffy containers. First saw them at Craig
Edward's workshop. Stacked them three high, but only full loads on
the bottom and middle bins.
--
Lee in Minneapolis, Minnesota USA
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
"For a democracy of excellence, the goal is not to reduce things to a
common denominator but to raise things to a shared worth."
--Paolo Soleri
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