Les on wed 24 oct 07
Mel -
From a Canadian Clayart Lover ........
isn't there a saying...... "if the wheel ain't broke ... don't fix it"
??????
I am just wondering what is wrong with what we already have?
Les Crimp in Nanoose Bay, B.C.
lcrimp@shaw.ca
Subject: thank you/new clayart software
> we are in good hands.
>
> a thanks to those that have send your take
> on the new ideas/software.
>
mel jacobson on wed 24 oct 07
we are in good hands.
a thanks to those that have send your take
on the new ideas/software.
we are in good hands.
things will work out just great.
i have forwarded your ideas to acers.
earl has taken the action to acers.
that is good.
maurice has been sick...and i have not
heard from him for a time.
do not want to disturb him...but, he
is monitoring things, i am sure.
i am positive we will not be in the business of
making clayart into a mess.
it will be better for all.
mel
from: mel/minnetonka.mn.usa
website: http://www.visi.com/~melpots/
Clayart page link: http://www.visi.com/~melpots/clayart.html
Helen Bates on wed 24 oct 07
Dear Mel,
I have enjoyed reading Clayart since about 1998 or 1999. It is fun, and
like a conversation and like a party. Pottery information of all sorts
gets discussed, as do the arts in general, and as do making pottery,
sculpture in clay, as does visiting museums, galleries, cities and
countries famous for pottery. Well, you know this as well as I.
Researching genealogy, I have used forum software, and have found it a
slog. It's not interesting, but merely a way of putting a question out
into the ether and hoping someone around the world reads it and has some
information. I've also used tech forums for some programs on my system.
Once one has found the answer to a specific question, there is no
further reason to continue to visit the forum, unless one is a forum
"techie" or a moderator, or otherwise a "mover and shaker" of the forum.
I do read Clayart on the web archives, because I have a broadband
connection but for those with dial-up connections, the e-mail method is
the best. A plain text digest downloads quickly, and the reader can use
the "find" or "search" method in his e-mail reader to move from
"subject" to "subject" or can use it to move from one post on a
particular topic to the next, or even search for the relevant word or
phrase of interest in the body of the text.
My 0.02 Canadian
Helen
mel jacobson wrote:
> we are in good hands.
>
> a thanks to those that have send your take
> on the new ideas/software.
>
> we are in good hands.
>
> things will work out just great.
>
> i have forwarded your ideas to acers.
> earl has taken the action to acers.
> that is good.
> maurice has been sick...and i have not
> heard from him for a time.
> do not want to disturb him...but, he
> is monitoring things, i am sure.
>
> i am positive we will not be in the business of
> making clayart into a mess.
> it will be better for all.
> mel
>
> from: mel/minnetonka.mn.usa
> website: http://www.visi.com/~melpots/
>
> Clayart page link: http://www.visi.com/~melpots/clayart.html
>
> ______________________________________________________________________________
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>
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>
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>
>
--
Helen Bates
Belleville, Ontario, Canada
Clayarters' URLs: http://amsterlaw.com/clayart/
claystevslat on thu 25 oct 07
Les -- Have you ever noticed how often ClayArt goes down
for a weekend? Especially a 3-day weekend? If it happens
once, that's the natural perversity of inanimate objects
(Finagle's Law of Dynamic Negatives).
If it happens often, it's probably an indication that
actually the pig-snortin' machine breaks down every
dag-snab day, but on the days that a professional is there
to watch over it and fix it, it gets fixed before you know
about it.
And it seems to me that ClayArt goes down with increasing
frequency on long weekends.
JM2C -- Steve S
--- In clayart@yahoogroups.com, Les wrote:
>
> Mel -
>
> From a Canadian Clayart Lover ........
>
> isn't there a saying...... "if the wheel ain't broke ... don't fix
it"
> ??????
>
> I am just wondering what is wrong with what we already have?
>
> Les Crimp in Nanoose Bay, B.C.
> lcrimp@...
Helen Bates on thu 25 oct 07
What's to say that won't happen with a new server with a new piece of
software? (And if it's the server that's the problem, not the current
software, then why not just get a great new server?)
If on the other hand the cost of the Listserv software is the problem,
then ACERS is going looking for something free, or at least very
inexpensive.
For e-mail lists, Majordomo is free, but it's administration is
probably too old-fashioned and "nerdy" for most. Archives are
available, and can be read on the Web by subscribed members, (I don't
know about whether they can also be made public.)
A really modern listserv may be able to allow uploading of images. A
compromise is Histonet's way of doing it... posts are publicly archived
as text, but images can be uploaded to Histonet's website:
http://www.histonet.org/site_sendpics.asp
BBowman at the University of Michigan listserv for birders has a
similar solution:
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/email-x.txt
I think Mel knows, but anyway, from what I can tell, Listserv's most
recent version, 15.0 can be configured to accept html and some sorts of
attachments. Listserv's Maestro can accept even more types of
attachments, including audio and video, but that isn't something that
would ever be fair to expect. http://www.lsoft.com/
The modern version of listserv can also be set to mask the e-mail
address of the sender from non-members reading the web-based archives.
As for web-based forums, there is one I've just found called
Pharma-Marketing, and it apparently can be set by the user to "push"
the posts out to users via e-mail... according to this PDF article:
http://www.news.pharma-mkting.com/pmn61-article04.pdf
It uses VBulletin:
http://www.vbulletin.com/features.php (Features)
https://www.vbulletin.com/order/ (Prices)
Helen
--- claystevslat wrote:
> Les -- Have you ever noticed how often ClayArt goes down
> for a weekend? Especially a 3-day weekend? If it happens
> once, that's the natural perversity of inanimate objects
> (Finagle's Law of Dynamic Negatives).
>
> If it happens often, it's probably an indication that
> actually the pig-snortin' machine breaks down every
> dag-snab day, but on the days that a professional is there
> to watch over it and fix it, it gets fixed before you know
> about it.
>
> And it seems to me that ClayArt goes down with increasing
> frequency on long weekends.
>
> JM2C -- Steve S
>
> --- In clayart@yahoogroups.com, Les wrote:
> >
> > Mel -
> >
> > From a Canadian Clayart Lover ........
> >
> > isn't there a saying...... "if the wheel ain't broke ... don't fix
> it"
> > ??????
> >
> > I am just wondering what is wrong with what we already have?
> >
> > Les Crimp in Nanoose Bay, B.C.
> > lcrimp@...
>
>
______________________________________________________________________________
> Clayart members may send postings to: clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
> You may look at the archives for the list, post messages, or change
> your
> subscription settings here: http://www.acers.org/cic/clayart/
>
> Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
> melpots2@visi.com
>
Helen Bates
Belleville, Ontario, Canada
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claystevslat on fri 26 oct 07
Helen -- Well, it might! But the moving hand of history is forever
dealing us new surprises ... when BlueWave was new, it was the
'perfect' solution to mailing lists. Compact, fast, reliable, etc.
One of the two authors died and though a few years ago you could
still get the software, it was no longer a reliable solution to
people's needs. We've all got different hardware, different
operating systems, our packets don't go through FidoNet, and so on.
The newer software will more likely be compatible with the
HW/OS/Software we will be running it on. The antique LSoft programs
Clayart runs on is sort of an invitation to trouble.
Just my opinion. Steve S
--- In clayart@yahoogroups.com, Helen Bates wrote:
>
> What's to say that won't happen with a new server with a new piece
of
> software? (And if it's the server that's the problem, not the
current
> software, then why not just get a great new server?)
>
> If on the other hand the cost of the Listserv software is the
problem,
> then ACERS is going looking for something free, or at least very
> inexpensive.
>
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