Katheryn Corbin on fri 7 nov 97
Greetings Potters...
I am looking for information on using china paint...
resources
suppliers
other potters using this media
mixing from dry ingredients
Thank you for the dialogue...Katheryn
http://www.axisnet.net/~corbin
Paul Lewing on sat 8 nov 97
Katheryn,
I wrote an article for Ceramics Monthly about how I use china paints
that was published in Feb. of 1995. At this time, the only other
person I know of in the clay art world using china paints is Kurt
Weiser. I, too, would love to know if there are any other
china-painters on this list.
Since I only paint on tile, and since I use my china-paints
water-based, my techniques are not at all like what traditional china
painters do, though. Looks like I'll be doing a tile workshop at
Appalachian Center for Crafts this summer, and we'll be doing some
china painting in that. If you've come to ceramics from painting,
especially watercolor, you're going to love it.
I can give you phone numbers for suppliers if you e-mail me privately.
Good luck,
Paul Lewing, Seattle
Richard Harris on sun 9 nov 97
Hi, Paul,
i too am interested in usiing china paints, and was glad that you
replied to the list in answer to Kathryn's question,
could you also send the list of suppliers to me? :)
thanks, Michelle Harris,,in Sask, canada
Paul Lewing wrote:
>
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> Katheryn,
> I wrote an article for Ceramics Monthly about how I use china paints
> that was published in Feb. of 1995. At this time, the only other
> person I know of in the clay art world using china paints is Kurt
> Weiser. I, too, would love to know if there are any other
> china-painters on this list.
> Since I only paint on tile, and since I use my china-paints
> water-based, my techniques are not at all like what traditional china
> painters do, though. Looks like I'll be doing a tile workshop at
> Appalachian Center for Crafts this summer, and we'll be doing some
> china painting in that. If you've come to ceramics from painting,
> especially watercolor, you're going to love it.
> I can give you phone numbers for suppliers if you e-mail me privately.
> Good luck,
> Paul Lewing, Seattle
Toni Hall on mon 10 nov 97
Katheryn,
I use china paints on my glazed pottery. I also paint on china
porclain, but love making my own pots and painting them. I use B Mix
cone 10 (fired to cone 6) and glaze it with a clear or white. I then
mix china paints with a mineral oil mix and decorate the item. I fire
at 017 and 018 and I love the new freedom it gives me. If you need
suppliers, let me know and I'll look them up for you. Paul Lewing uses
china on commercial tiles and they are quite nice.
Good luck. Toni in NM
Marcy Eady on tue 11 nov 97
Paul Wrote:
> Since I only paint on tile, and since I use my china-paints
> water-based, my techniques are not at all like what traditional china
> painters do, though. Looks like I'll be doing a tile workshop at
> Appalachian Center for Crafts this summer, and we'll be doing some
> china painting in that. If you've come to ceramics from painting,
> especially watercolor, you're going to love it.
I am just learning to china paint and am interested in why you use your
chine paints water-based?
Do you use special china paints water-based or can the powders be used as
water-based or oil-based? I see china painting as a wonderful way to
finish off my pottery, they seem versatile and predicitable.
Marcy
Martin A. Arkowitz on tue 11 nov 97
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-Toni,
i sometimes use china paints and would like to know what is the mineral oil
mix you use. Is it something you mix yourself or is it a commercially
available product. I have an asortment of bell china paints which have become
a bit hard. is there something out there that will soften them and revive them
so i can use them again?
TIA
Eleanor Arkowitz
--------------------------- Original message----------------------------
Katheryn,
I use china paints on my glazed pottery. I also paint on china
porclain, but love making my own pots and painting them. I use B Mix
cone 10 (fired to cone 6) and glaze it with a clear or white. I then
mix china paints with a mineral oil mix and decorate the item. I fire
at 017 and 018 and I love the new freedom it gives me. If you need
suppliers, let me know and I'll look them up for you. Paul Lewing uses
china on commercial tiles and they are quite nice.
Good luck. Toni in NM
John H. Rodgers on fri 14 nov 97
-- [ From: John H. Rodgers * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --
Eleanor,
We use china paints extensively in my production shop in Alaska and when we
have a hardening problem we simply put the paint on the frosted side of a
grinding glass ( a 6" X 6" glass square frosted on one side) and add just a
tiny bit of oil. The paint and oil are "worked" together under the pressure
of the blade of a pallette knife. If there is still a problem it is put in a
mortar and pestle and worked hard. Oil is added if needed to get the right
consistency. We use plain old Squib mineral oil. Only rarely do we ever use
a commercial oil(ie, one prepared specifically for the industry) or a
"medium" or other agent. Thousands of hours of painting and firing have, for
our purposes, demonstrated that only the standard drug store oil is
necessary. Sorry, it's no more exotic than that.
Hope this helps.
John Rodgers
Enjoying Autumn in Alabama
-------- REPLY, Original message follows --------
Date: Tuesday, 11-Nov-97 10:39 PM
From: Martin A. Arkowitz \ Internet: (martin.a.arkowitz@dartmouth.
edu)
To: CLAYART LIST \ Internet: (clayart@lsv.uky.edu)
Subject: Re: china glaze
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
--- Forwarded Message from Toni Hall ---
>Resent-Subject: Re: china glaze
>References: <199711070421.WAA28722@axis.axisnet.net>
>Approved-By: List Moderator
>Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 08:47:47 EST
>Reply-To: thall@lookingglass.net
>Sender: Ceramic Arts Discussion List
>From: Toni Hall
>Subject: Re: china glaze
>To: Multiple recipients of list CLAYART
-Toni,
i sometimes use china paints and would like to know what is the mineral oil
mix you use. Is it something you mix yourself or is it a commercially
available product. I have an asortment of bell china paints which have
become
a bit hard. is there something out there that will soften them and revive
them
so i can use them again?
TIA
Eleanor Arkowitz
--------------------------- Original message----------------------------
Katheryn,
I use china paints on my glazed pottery. I also paint on china
porclain, but love making my own pots and painting them. I use B Mix cone
10 (fired to cone 6) and glaze it with a clear or white. I then mix china
paints with a mineral oil mix and decorate the item. I fire at 017 and 018
and I love the new freedom it gives me. If you need suppliers, let me know
and I'll look them up for you. Paul Lewing uses china on commercial tiles
and they are quite nice. Good luck. Toni in NM
-------- REPLY, End of original message --------
John H. Rodgers on wed 19 nov 97
-- [ From: John H. Rodgers * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --
Hi Mary Hartman.
To answer your question. Yes, we use just the mineral oil for painting. We
mix our paints to a very stiff consistancy, then use a dry-brush type
technique for finishing.
This technique works fine on our figurines. But if you are doing decorative
work on vessels, it may be necessry to do it a different way. On one
occasion we used a medium from Ann Kline Studio, and with a brush painted a
band around the rim. Then dry powdered china paint was sprinkled on the
media. Of course the media caused the powder to stick. Afterwards loose
powder was blown off, Then it was fired. As I recall this technique was used
on royal purple and also red to eliminate streaking.
Good luck.
John Rodgers
In Alabama where 27 degree temperatures are making me homesick for Alaska.
-------- REPLY, Original message follows --------
Date: Wednesday, 19-Nov-97 10:57 AM
From: Mary C Hartman \ Internet: (mhartman@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu)
To: John H. Rodgers \ Internet: (inua@quicklink.net)
Subject: Re: china glaze
I use the mineral oil for mixing, but do you also use just mineral oil for
the painting medium?? Thanks for your input.
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