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ferric chloride for pit firing

updated fri 2 nov 07

 

Vicki Hardin on sun 28 oct 07


Just thought I would share that I went to Radio Shack yesterday to get some
ferric chloride to find there was none to be had between two stores in a
town the size of 90,000. The manager said that due to some of the new
legislation it is one of the chemicals that is no longer easily shipped. He
has been getting it through other managers at regional meetings and promised
to get me three bottles. If anyone has an alternate resource, could you
please share it. Thanks.

Vicki Hardin
ClayArtWebGuide.com

Michael Wendt on mon 29 oct 07


Vicki,
Go to the store and buy any toilet bowl
cleaner that lists 20% hydrochloric acid
as the active ingredient. In a plastic bowl
pour in a small amount of the acid and
add iron filings. Cover with plastic wrap
and put it in a safe place where you won't
knock it over if you forget. Be sure to label
it. Time varies for the acid to complete the
reaction with the iron and produce ferric
chloride but it works great.
Regards,
Michael Wendt
Wendt Pottery
2729 Clearwater Ave.
Lewiston, Id 83501
U.S.A.
208-746-3724
wendtpot@lewiston.com
http://www.wendtpottery.com
http://UniquePorcelainDesigns.com

Gary Holt on mon 29 oct 07


Hi Vicki - You might give US Pigment a call (1-800-472-9500).
Because of
her interest in water soluble metal salts, Linda Blossom has
encouraged the
owner of the company (Sayeed, I believe) to carry several metal
chlorides.
I've also asked Leslie Ceramics in California to stock them, but I'm
not sure
if they have them yet (1-510-524-7363 or email: info@leslieceramics.com)

Gary Holt
www.garyholt.com


On Oct 28, 2007, at 5:13 PM, Vicki Hardin wrote:

> Just thought I would share that I went to Radio Shack yesterday to
> get some
> ferric chloride to find there was none to be had between two stores
> in a
> town the size of 90,000. The manager said that due to some of the new
> legislation it is one of the chemicals that is no longer easily
> shipped. He
> has been getting it through other managers at regional meetings and
> promised
> to get me three bottles. If anyone has an alternate resource, could
> you
> please share it. Thanks.
>
> Vicki Hardin
> ClayArtWebGuide.com
>
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Sean Burns on mon 29 oct 07


Hi Vicki,
Ferric chloride is also known as dutch mordant to printmakers
(intaglio).Graphic Cemical and Ink distributes it.

www.graphicchemical.com

They are out of Villa Park Illinois.
Sean Burns
Williamsburg, Ma.




>Hi Vicki - You might give US Pigment a call (1-800-472-9500).
>
>
>> to get me three bottles. If anyone has an alternate resource, could
>> you
>> please share it. Thanks.
>>
>> Vicki Hardin
>> ClayArtWebGuide.com
>>
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Stauffer Linda on tue 30 oct 07


Ferric Chloride can be bought at any RADIO SHACK, it is called etchant
solution
On Oct 29, 2007, at 7:19 PM, Sean Burns wrote:

Hi Vicki,
Ferric chloride is also known as dutch mordant to printmakers
(intaglio).Graphic Cemical and Ink distributes it.

www.graphicchemical.com

They are out of Villa Park Illinois.
Sean Burns
Williamsburg, Ma.




> Hi Vicki - You might give US Pigment a call (1-800-472-9500).
>
>
>> to get me three bottles. If anyone has an alternate resource, could
>> you
>> please share it. Thanks.
>>
>> Vicki Hardin
>> ClayArtWebGuide.com
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________________
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Linda Blossom on tue 30 oct 07


Graphic Chemical doesn't carry Ferric Chloride -
Rembrandt Graphic Arts does however and sells it in
pints, quarts, and gallons. Dutch mordant is not
the same as ferric chloride and Graphic hasn't
carried it for a many years due to the fumes. It is
a combination of hydrochloric acid and potassium
chlorate crystals. US Pigment should have ferric
chloride soon if not already.

Linda
Ithaca, NY


Hi Vicki,
Ferric chloride is also known as dutch mordant
to printmakers
(intaglio).Graphic Cemical and Ink distributes it.

www.graphicchemical.com

They are out of Villa Park Illinois.
Sean Burns

Williamsburg, Ma.




>Hi Vicki - You might give US Pigment a call
(1-800-472-9500).
>
>
>> to get me three bottles. If anyone has an
alternate resource, could
>> you
>> please share it. Thanks.
>>
>> Vicki Hardin
>> ClayArtWebGuide.com
>>
>>
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James and Sherron Bowen on tue 30 oct 07


I got mine from a local chemical supply house (Cosco in Denver). 100g of lab
grade Ferric Chloride for ten bucks some time ago.
JB

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From: "Linda Blossom"
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Subject: Re: Ferric Chloride for Pit Firing

Vicki Hardin on wed 31 oct 07


Thanks, especially Michael Wendt, for all the helpful suggestions on Ferric
Chloride and sodium silicate. The suggestion to add water to sodium silicate
at periodic intervals is something I did not initially consider as I thought
it might activate it. I look forward to keeping it for longer periods and
will also store it in a more temperate environment than I have in the past.
Also, will try the approach to dissolving iron in acid rather than working
through Radio Shack to get ferric chloride which I foresee may not be an
option in the future. Again, thanks so much! Clay Art is a wonderful thing.

Vicki Hardin
http://ClayArtWebGuide.com

Bill Paxton on wed 31 oct 07


RadioShack has this product as an etchant for PC boards. A little more
expensive but smaller quantities.

Michael Wendt on thu 1 nov 07


A few things I forgot to mention about making
your own ferric chloride:
use mild steel shavings or drill bits that are clean
(no oil)
use more iron so the acid can react completely.
If you dissolve all the iron, keep adding bits
until there is some iron left so you know the
acid is totally reacted.
The reason to cover it tightly is the fumes
from the open container are reactive and
will corrode any nearby metals they contact.
Regards,
Michael Wendt
Wendt Pottery
2729 Clearwater Ave.
Lewiston, Id 83501
U.S.A.
208-746-3724
wendtpot@lewiston.com
http://www.wendtpottery.com
http://UniquePorcelainDesigns.com