L. P. Skeen on sun 4 nov 07
Wayne dahling,
The first one was silicone, I think. At least I thought it was.... and =
I never had oil up past the shoulder of the bottle, except when it was =
being poured. ;) So, still flummoxed. And as for the name, I will try =
to remember, but will not guarantee.
L. P.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: WJ Seidl=20
Two, stop putting so much oil in the bottle.
L. P. Skeen on sun 4 nov 07
Greetings again. I'm flummoxed as to what to do here, maybe y'all can =
offer an opinion? Last summer, I bought in one of those kitchen gadget =
stores, a glass bottle with a metal spout. The spouty part was somehow =
attached to a pliable rubber stopper, all of which fit down the neck of =
the bottle, the purpose of which is to hold oil in a decorative manner.
I've had olive oil in it ever since I got it home and clean. First =
thing that happened was that after about a year, the rubber part no =
longer fit snugly into the neck of the bottle. I could attribute this =
to the slickness of the oil, except that the thing seems to have =
actually SHRUNK, not just become slippery. It doesn't work any more, =
because when I turn the bottle up to pour oil, the whole damn thing come =
sliding out in the pan.
I bought some replacement stoppers, 100% plastic, with lid, that I was =
using on some bottles that _I_ made. Found one of the stoppers and put =
it down in my oil bottle. It fits fine. This was about maybe 2 weeks =
ago. This evening I went to use the bottle and thought the stopper =
looked a little weird. Tried to remove the lid and the whole thing came =
out. The little "ribs" that hold the thing in place have been eaten =
away, presumably by the oil. So now THAT one gets trashed.
I don't get what's happening here. Once upon a time I worked with a =
local AIDS service organization as a volunteer trainer. One of the =
things that was part of the training is, condoms work, but only w/ water =
based lubricant, because if you use PETROLEUM BASED lubricant, it breaks =
down the rubber. If I had petrol-based oil in this bottle, I could see =
the breakdown, but OLIVE OIL??? What's going on? Does a decent spout =
exist?
L
L. P. Skeen, Summerfield NC
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pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on sun 4 nov 07
Hi Lisa,
Olive Oil ( and any Botanical-Seed or 'Seed-pit' Oil far as I know, and even
any 'Oil' from Animal sources ) will effect or chemically alter some kinds
of synthetic Rubber or Plastics.
Natural Rubber products I believe are immune to Natural Oils...or would be
with rare exception anyway.
And most-all artificial Rubber and many Plastics are immune from Petroleum
based Oils.
This used to be ( or still is ) something to bear in mind when one owns
older British Cars or Trucks - their Hydraulic Brake system uses Natural
Rubber Seals, and must have either Natural Oil based Hydraulic Fluid, or,
appropriate synthetics, and can not abide 'regular' Brake Fluid without harm
to the Seals and so on...a sort of similar sitation to your Olive Oil
'Stopper' discovery...the Seals puff up and become 'snotty' in character,
resenting the insult of the wrong Oil...
Phil
l v
----- Original Message -----
From: "L. P. Skeen"
Greetings again. I'm flummoxed as to what to do here, maybe y'all can offer
an opinion? Last summer, I bought in one of those kitchen gadget stores, a
glass bottle with a metal spout. The spouty part was somehow attached to a
pliable rubber stopper, all of which fit down the neck of the bottle, the
purpose of which is to hold oil in a decorative manner.
I've had olive oil in it ever since I got it home and clean. First thing
that happened was that after about a year, the rubber part no longer fit
snugly into the neck of the bottle. I could attribute this to the slickness
of the oil, except that the thing seems to have actually SHRUNK, not just
become slippery. It doesn't work any more, because when I turn the bottle
up to pour oil, the whole damn thing come sliding out in the pan.
I bought some replacement stoppers, 100% plastic, with lid, that I was using
on some bottles that _I_ made. Found one of the stoppers and put it down in
my oil bottle. It fits fine. This was about maybe 2 weeks ago. This
evening I went to use the bottle and thought the stopper looked a little
weird. Tried to remove the lid and the whole thing came out. The little
"ribs" that hold the thing in place have been eaten away, presumably by the
oil. So now THAT one gets trashed.
I don't get what's happening here. Once upon a time I worked with a local
AIDS service organization as a volunteer trainer. One of the things that
was part of the training is, condoms work, but only w/ water based
lubricant, because if you use PETROLEUM BASED lubricant, it breaks down the
rubber. If I had petrol-based oil in this bottle, I could see the
breakdown, but OLIVE OIL??? What's going on? Does a decent spout exist?
L
L. P. Skeen, Summerfield NC
Get your 2007 Clay Lover's Calendar at
http://www.living-tree.net/calendar.htm
WJ Seidl on sun 4 nov 07
Lisa:
Do us a favor please, dear. No, two favors.
One, for those of us that don't know ya...L is not a proper name, ok?
Two, stop putting so much oil in the bottle. The stopper should not be
immersed in oil, no matter what kind of material or oil.
Leave some breathing room. That should help.
Three. You can find stoppers made from silicone...which is what you
should be using. Not rubber or plastic. Silicone is almost impervious
to oil penetration
which is why they make, errrr, (ahem) certain (GAK!) marital aids
(cough, cough) out of it.
Best,
Wayne Seidl
still beet red
L. P. Skeen wrote:
> Greetings again. I'm flummoxed as to what to do here, maybe y'all can offer an opinion? Last summer, I bought in one of those kitchen gadget stores, a glass bottle with a metal spout. The spouty part was somehow attached to a pliable rubber stopper, all of which fit down the neck of the bottle, the purpose of which is to hold oil in a decorative manner.
>
> I've had olive oil in it ever since I got it home and clean. First thing that happened was that after about a year, the rubber part no longer fit snugly into the neck of the bottle. I could attribute this to the slickness of the oil, except that the thing seems to have actually SHRUNK, not just become slippery. It doesn't work any more, because when I turn the bottle up to pour oil, the whole damn thing come sliding out in the pan.
>
> I bought some replacement stoppers, 100% plastic, with lid, that I was using on some bottles that _I_ made. Found one of the stoppers and put it down in my oil bottle. It fits fine. This was about maybe 2 weeks ago. This evening I went to use the bottle and thought the stopper looked a little weird. Tried to remove the lid and the whole thing came out. The little "ribs" that hold the thing in place have been eaten away, presumably by the oil. So now THAT one gets trashed.
>
> I don't get what's happening here. Once upon a time I worked with a local AIDS service organization as a volunteer trainer. One of the things that was part of the training is, condoms work, but only w/ water based lubricant, because if you use PETROLEUM BASED lubricant, it breaks down the rubber. If I had petrol-based oil in this bottle, I could see the breakdown, but OLIVE OIL??? What's going on? Does a decent spout exist?
>
> L
>
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pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on mon 5 nov 07
Hi Lisa,
A Cork will work well, with no Chemical disintegration from any Oils of any
sort...
Otherwise, bear in mind, any Oil will wish to behave as a Solvent, when it
can.
Many Oils are more or less clarified segments of some specific Gravitys of
various kinds of Fats, or are molecularly related to Fats, whether Animal,
Vegetable or possibly even Mineral, however viscous or resilient they may
be, and thus it is a sort of like effecting like, or can be, when these are
in contact with one-another.
There are many kinds of 'Rubber' or figurative Rubber, and of course many
kinds of 'plastic'...and if one knows what sort one is thinking to use, one
could contact the Manufacturer's Association within whose Membership that
kind of 'Rubber' or 'Plastic' is made, and from the Association or any of
the Manufacturers themselves, obtain technical data as for what kinds of
materials or liquids and so on, a given Rubber or Plastic is known to be
compatible with.
Some of these reactions are quite slow, and can take years to effect the
deterioration from the incompatibility.
Ozone, Actinic Rays, ambient subtle fumes or off-gassings of close by
things, cooking fumes, Gas Stove fumes, also can occasion deteriorations to
some Rubber or Plastic, or will, over time.
Laboratory or Chemistry related Corks having a slight Taper and a central
Hole of various diameters, should be available Mail Order.
Cork 'Drills' similarly, ( which are sharpened Tubes one rotates into and
through the Cork, ) can be had to make one's own holes through Corks...
Phil
l v
----- Original Message -----
From: "L. P. Skeen"
Wayne dahling,
The first one was silicone, I think. At least I thought it was.... and I
never had oil up past the shoulder of the bottle, except when it was being
poured. ;) So, still flummoxed. And as for the name, I will try to
remember, but will not guarantee.
L. P.
----- Original Message -----
From: WJ Seidl
Two, stop putting so much oil in the bottle.
sacredclay on mon 5 nov 07
That should help.
> Three. You can find stoppers made from silicone...which is what you
> should be using. Not rubber or plastic. Silicone is almost impervious
> to oil penetration
> which is why they make, errrr, (ahem) certain (GAK!) marital aids
> (cough, cough) out of it.
>
> Best,
> Wayne Seidl
> still beet red
>
Wayne,
Don't be so embarressed. I'm sure that most of us have had some
experience with this thingie at one time or another. Mwah!
Kathryn in NC
"Dammit! Why won't it flush down???"
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