Jim Willett on tue 13 nov 07
Hello All,
We receive interesting emails from time to time because of our website
listings. Recently we were sent this email by a lady in Missouri.
Obviously we are a little far away from Missouri but those of you who are
closer might want to take a look. All we know about this lady is she once
bought a DVD from us.
Jim Willett
Out of the Fire Studio
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
http://www.outofthefirestudio.com
http://www.howtomakepottery.com
Here is the letter:
"Jim, i am not for sure how much you do at your shop or store, but i have
recently, [ with the intent to learn pottery and open a store], bought
from DickBlick Company many items to make and desighn pottery, but i am
now NOT going to learn to make or sale it, i am selling all items i
purchased,and because its too late to send them back,i am selling all for
much less then what i payed, and eating the tax and shipping that i paid.I
have already sold some of what i had, but need to sale all of it. Below
is a list of what i have if you or anyone you might know is interested.
1. KILN {this is used, but in excellant condition}
Electric top loader/Duncan
Automatic,model-LT-3K.............. 400.00
2. Brent Pottery Wheel-Model IE-X /14" head,reversing
switch,selftensioning belt, 1/3HP-6amp motors,electronic variable
speedcontrol,removable
legs,comes with bat and splashpan.
STILL IN SHIPPING CRATE, PAID $799................
SALE FOR.......680.00
3. CLAYS-
1.AMACO Porcelain Clay No.65 cone 5-6[2205-2269F]......2 @50lbs
PAID $33.99 each.....SALE FOR.........45.00
2.AMACO White Stoneware No.38 cone 5-10 [2185-2345F] 2@50lbs
PAID $20.99 each......SALE FOR.........30.00
3.AMACO Versa Clay No.20 cone 06-04 [1828-1954F]......2 @ 50lbs
PAID $20.99 EACH.....SALE FOR.........30.00
4.AMACO Terra Cotta Earthenware No.77 cone 06-5 {1888-2167F] 2@50lbs
PAID $22.99 EACH.....SALE FOR.........35.00
5.AMACO Indian Red Earthenware No.67 cone 06-02 [1828-2016F] 1@50 lbs
PAID $20.99.........SALE FOR............15.00
4.GLAZES-ALL LEAD FREE
1.AMACO F-SERIES LIQUID GLAZES/CASE OF 12 Pints/different colors
cone 05 [1888F] PAID $156.39.......SALE FOR..130.00
2.AMACO CRYSTALTEX GLAZES/ CASEOF12Pints/different colors
cone 05 [1888F]PAID $157.59.......SALE FOR..130.00
3.MAYCO STROKE & COAT WONDERGLAZE FOR BISQUE/1 FIRE for
decorating and glazing/bisque fire cone 04-3/glaze fire cone 06
[1828-1888F] colors are intermixable CASE OF 12 pints/diff. colors
PAID $154.59 SALE FOR.......130.00
4.BLICK STONEWARE GLAZES cone 4-6 [2124-2262F] 21 individual pints/
different colors/
paid from $7.39-$32.59 a pint...SALE FOR $5.00-$25.00 A PINT
5.ORTON SMALL JUNIOR PYROMETRIC CONES/ Box of 50
PAID $5.00 PER....SALE FOR 4.00 PER
1. 05.............2 PKGS
2. 04.............2 PKGS
3. 4.............3 PKGS
4. 10.............3 PKGS
5. 018.............3 PKGS
6. 06.............2 PKGS
6. AMACO LEAD FREE UNDERGLAZE CRAYONS/8 COLORS
PAID $24.99........SALE FOR........18.00
7. BATS- 2/12" AMACO PLASTI-BATS & 2/14" AMACO PRESSBOARD BAT
PAID..$46.56................SALE FOR.........$32.00
8. SCULPTING THUMBS / 3 PAID $3.99 EACH/SALE FOR 2.OO EACH
9. 12 PC. SET OF LARGE BASIC POTTERS TOOLS
White Birch,oak,stainless steel/burgundy stain
PAID...$22.99 SALE FOR......15.00
10. KEMPER POTTERY TOOL KIT 8 PC. / PAID..10,49...SALE FOR..6.00
11. DECORATING WHEELS/ 2 AT $21,99 EACH, SALE PAIR FOR $20.00
EVERYTHING IS STILL NEW AND IN UNOPENED PKGS, HOPE YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO
USE SOME OF IT OR KNOW SOMEONE WHO CAN. HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU EITHER WAY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME,
PATRICIA STANDLEY
114 W.5TH STREET
TINA, MISSOURI 64682
660-622-4325
pstand1@yahoo.com "
claystevslat on tue 13 nov 07
Jim --
As is well known I am a cynic about anything coming in
unsolicited in an e-mail.
Odd as it is that someone with heavy things to sell in
Missouri should contact someone in Alberta, this story
gets weirder.
There is a Patricia Standley from Tina, Missouri listed
on ZoomInfo. According to her profile, she's a "Full
member of the Instititute of Direct Marketing" and has
a degree in law, that seems to be from the UK.
Would a direct marketing expert in Missouri try to sell
heavy objects to a person she doesn't know in Alberta?
It makes me suspicious.
Would a trained lawyer, whose studies focused on
European business law, and who worked for Research
machines, BICC and Colt International (all sufficiently
vague company names, but each likely relating to a UK
company) normally write with lower case 'i's? Or write an
entire paragraph in upper case? Or confuse common
words like "sell" and "sale"?
There is a passing fair possibility that message is
trolling for a trusting soul for a scam.
Of course other possibilities do exist. Still, buyer
beware appears to be a significant operating principle.
-- Steve Slatin
--- In clayart@yahoogroups.com, Jim Willett wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> We receive interesting emails from time to time because of our
website
> listings. Recently we were sent this email by a lady in Missouri.
> Obviously we are a little far away from Missouri but those of you
who are
> closer might want to take a look. All we know about this lady is
she once
> bought a DVD from us.
>
> Jim Willett
Jim Willett on wed 14 nov 07
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:57:03 -0000, claystevslat
wrote:
>Jim --
>
>As is well known I am a cynic about anything coming in
>unsolicited in an e-mail.
>
>Odd as it is that someone with heavy things to sell in
>Missouri should contact someone in Alberta, this story
>gets weirder.
>
>There is a Patricia Standley from Tina, Missouri listed
>on ZoomInfo. According to her profile, she's a "Full
>member of the Instititute of Direct Marketing" and has
>a degree in law, that seems to be from the UK.
>
>Would a direct marketing expert in Missouri try to sell
>heavy objects to a person she doesn't know in Alberta?
>It makes me suspicious.
>
>Would a trained lawyer, whose studies focused on
>European business law, and who worked for Research
>machines, BICC and Colt International (all sufficiently
>vague company names, but each likely relating to a UK
>company) normally write with lower case 'i's? Or write an
>entire paragraph in upper case? Or confuse common
>words like "sell" and "sale"?
>
>There is a passing fair possibility that message is
>trolling for a trusting soul for a scam.
>
>Of course other possibilities do exist. Still, buyer
>beware appears to be a significant operating principle.
>
>-- Steve Slatin
>
Steve,
I admire your efforts to protect us all from internet scams, and God knows
there are millions, but I think your research has you barking up the wrong
tree. Yes there is a Patricia Standley who is a lawyer in the UK. There is
also a lady in the Ozarks named Patricia Standley who has had some hard
times, who thought she wanted to start a pottery business, changed her
mind and has a pile of equipment she wants to sell. Fran Johnson was a
little more proactive and sent me the Brackers Clay Company site where
Patricia can, and has, posted her stuff for sale free. We sold this lady a
DVD over a year ago just after she lost her only son in a car crash and
she was looking for something to pour herself into. She now realizes she
chose poorly. Trust me when I say she is authentic. Of course maybe I'm
not who I say I am either. There is a Jim Willett in ZoomInfo who was the
warden of Texas State Penitentiary. Now HE is scary!
We receive all the usual scams and a few more creative ones because we
have a fairly high internet profile in certain areas.We also get
approached with legitimate offers.(Would you like to buy 20,000 pieces of
Chinese lacquer ware from the 1920's? I can get you a good deal. We also
got a call from Texas that has lead us to literally tons of African
sculpture, in Texas!)We have gotten pretty good at spotting the phonies.
Ms Standley wrote back to me to say she had thought we were geographically
closer to her than we are and she appreciated our efforts on her behalf.
I'm sure if any of you give her a call or email you will find she is not
too scary at all.
Sincerely,
THE Jim Willett
Out of the Fire Studio
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
http://www.outofthefireetudio.com
claystevslat on thu 15 nov 07
Jim --
I wish I could say that it is implausible that one of my
countrymen living in Missouri would not know where -- or
how far away -- Canada is. Regrettably, I cannot.
The addition of a sob story to the mix doesn't make me
more confident of the offer. If you have personal knowledge
of the lady, you could have offered it along with the original
post. In any event, the woman can't in any practical way sell
high-weight low-value items (like the clay she's flogging)
except locally.
-- Steve Slatin
--- In clayart@yahoogroups.com, Jim Willett wrote:
>
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:57:03 -0000, claystevslat
> wrote:
>
> >Jim --
> >
> >As is well known I am a cynic about anything coming in
> >unsolicited in an e-mail.
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