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Paul Borian on wed 21 nov 07


My splash pan has developed a crack on one of the pieces and tends to leak
water all over me. This actually went on for close to a year before i even
realized what was happening - i just didn't think it would ever crack, but
most likely it is because i use a metal scraper to clean in out and it
eventually dug a groove in the side, and the crack is getting pretty long.
I am not sure if i really want to spend $50 for another one of these,
especially since i only need one piece and not both and they don't sell
them seperately.
can anyone suggest a good way to more-or-less permanently fix it? duct
tape held up pretty well for a while but i would like something a little
better than that.
thanks,
Paul

June Perry on thu 22 nov 07


If it's plastic, maybe a silicone type glue will do the trick.

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Fredrick Paget on thu 22 nov 07


>My splash pan has developed a crack on one of the pieces.....can
>anyone suggest a good way to more-or-less permanently fix it? ..
>Paul
>
We had one break at college and I fixed it like this:
Drill a line of very small holes along both sides of the crack and
sew it together with strong thread. I used kevlar fishing line but if
you don't have that try nylon monofilament. Then cover both sides
with aquarium silicone cement to waterproof it and hold down the
thread.
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Keba M Hitzeman on thu 22 nov 07


Could you use some sort of waterproof sealant on the outside of the
splashpan? We used a sealant for boats and such to repair a crack in a
rainbarrel that had split. It worked quite well.

Keba

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-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Paul Borian
Sent: Wednesday, 21 November, 2007 20:11
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Splash pan repair?

My splash pan has developed a crack on one of the pieces and tends to leak
water all over me. This actually went on for close to a year before i even
realized what was happening - i just didn't think it would ever crack, but
most likely it is because i use a metal scraper to clean in out and it
eventually dug a groove in the side, and the crack is getting pretty long.
I am not sure if i really want to spend $50 for another one of these,
especially since i only need one piece and not both and they don't sell
them seperately.
can anyone suggest a good way to more-or-less permanently fix it? duct
tape held up pretty well for a while but i would like something a little
better than that.
thanks,
Paul

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Dannon Rhudy on thu 22 nov 07


Get a fiberglass repair kit. Works great,
and lasts long. I used to do this all the time
when students cracked splash pans.

regards

Dannon Rhudy



.............> My splash pan has developed a crack on one of the pieces and
tends to leak
> water all over me...............

Robert Seele on thu 22 nov 07


Paul,

You could patch/reinforce the splash pan using "Bondo", a filler used
to fill in dents on autos etc.

Apply a thin layer of Bondo, then

reinforce the Bondo by putting on a layer of fiberglass,

and then a thicker layer of Bondo.

You could apply either inside, outside or both.

My splash pan was kind of wimpy to me. I reinforced the exterior of
the rim with Bondo as above.


Bob


On WedNov 21, 07, at 7:10 , Paul Borian wrote:

> My splash pan has developed a crack on one of the pieces and tends
> to leak
> water all over me. This actually went on for close to a year before
> i even
> realized what was happening - i just didn't think it would ever
> crack, but
> most likely it is because i use a metal scraper to clean in out and it
> eventually dug a groove in the side, and the crack is getting pretty
> long.
> I am not sure if i really want to spend $50 for another one of these,
> especially since i only need one piece and not both and they don't
> sell
> them seperately.
> can anyone suggest a good way to more-or-less permanently fix it? duct
> tape held up pretty well for a while but i would like something a
> little
> better than that.
> thanks,
> Paul
>
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David Berg on thu 22 nov 07


Paul,
I would try to find a solvent or glue that would get into the crack
and melt the plastic back back together. Alternatively, you could
try to use high heat - maybe a torch - to melt the crack back
together. If the crack is just glued but the plastic doesn't melt,
then it will probably just crack again later.
David

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On Nov 21, 2007, at 8:10 PM, Paul Borian wrote:

> My splash pan has developed a crack on one of the pieces and tends
> to leak
> water all over me. This actually went on for close to a year before
> i even
> realized what was happening - i just didn't think it would ever
> crack, but
> most likely it is because i use a metal scraper to clean in out and it
> eventually dug a groove in the side, and the crack is getting pretty
> long.
> I am not sure if i really want to spend $50 for another one of these,
> especially since i only need one piece and not both and they don't
> sell
> them seperately.
> can anyone suggest a good way to more-or-less permanently fix it? duct
> tape held up pretty well for a while but i would like something a
> little
> better than that.
> thanks,
> Paul
>
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William & Susan Schran User on thu 22 nov 07


On 11/21/07 8:10 PM, "Paul Borian" wrote:

> I am not sure if i really want to spend $50 for another one of these,
> especially since i only need one piece and not both and they don't sell
> them seperately.
> can anyone suggest a good way to more-or-less permanently fix it? duct
> tape held up pretty well for a while but i would like something a little
> better than that.

There are adhesives/glues made specifically for plastics found at home
centers/hardware stores.
Might want to give that a try.

If that doesn't work, try heating a metal putty knife with a torch and
melt/weld the crack.


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WJ Seidl on thu 22 nov 07


Paul,
Use "5 minute epoxy", or a product called "A&B epoxy", which is a 2 part
putty that hardens even under water.
Quick, easy, and a heck of a lot cheaper than $50!
Best,
Wayne Seidl

Paul Borian wrote:
> My splash pan has developed a crack on one of the pieces and tends to leak
> water all over me. This actually went on for close to a year before i even
> realized what was happening - i just didn't think it would ever crack, but
> most likely it is because i use a metal scraper to clean in out and it
> eventually dug a groove in the side, and the crack is getting pretty long.
> I am not sure if i really want to spend $50 for another one of these,
> especially since i only need one piece and not both and they don't sell
> them seperately.
> can anyone suggest a good way to more-or-less permanently fix it? duct
> tape held up pretty well for a while but i would like something a little
> better than that.
> thanks,
> Paul
>
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pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on thu 22 nov 07


Hi Paul,


If it is plastic, contact the Manufacturer and find out what specific kind
of plastic it is...

Then, either ask the List, or by some other means, find out what specific
kind of Glue, will work on that kind of plastic.


You can then clean the crack well, and glue it shut.



Phil
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Borian"

> My splash pan has developed a crack on one of the pieces and tends to leak
> water all over me. This actually went on for close to a year before i even
> realized what was happening - i just didn't think it would ever crack, but
> most likely it is because i use a metal scraper to clean in out and it
> eventually dug a groove in the side, and the crack is getting pretty long.
> I am not sure if i really want to spend $50 for another one of these,
> especially since i only need one piece and not both and they don't sell
> them seperately.
> can anyone suggest a good way to more-or-less permanently fix it? duct
> tape held up pretty well for a while but i would like something a little
> better than that.
> thanks,
> Paul

The Hendriks on thu 22 nov 07


Hi Paul,
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I have repaired a cracked splash pan with a fibreglass and two part epoxy c=
anoe repair kit. Rough up smooth areas first, plan on throwing away your br=
ush, mixing tool and container and its an easy if smelly job that works lik=
e a charm.
=20
Blessings,
Eleanor
=20



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Gayle Bair on thu 22 nov 07


Hi Paul,
My choice would be E-6000 or Devcon epoxy. Devcon has several epoxies with
varying cure rates 5 minute and up.
You could strengthen the area by placing a patch over the area and epoxy
under and over the crack. E-6000 is very strong
but will also flex a bit.


Gayle Bair
Bainbridge Island, WA
Tucson, AZ
www.claybair.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On Behalf Of Paul Borian
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 5:11 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Splash pan repair?

My splash pan has developed a crack on one of the pieces and tends to leak
water all over me. This actually went on for close to a year before i even
realized what was happening - i just didn't think it would ever crack, but
most likely it is because i use a metal scraper to clean in out and it
eventually dug a groove in the side, and the crack is getting pretty long.
I am not sure if i really want to spend $50 for another one of these,
especially since i only need one piece and not both and they don't sell
them seperately.
can anyone suggest a good way to more-or-less permanently fix it? duct
tape held up pretty well for a while but i would like something a little
better than that.
thanks,
Paul

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Vince Pitelka on thu 22 nov 07


Paul -
Different plastics accept silicone sealer to differing degrees. I'd buy
some clear Silicone II caulking-sealer, and try it out on the surface. If
it sticks well, I'd get some of that mesh fiberglass tape they use on
drywall, and apply that over the crack on the outside. Then I'd apply a
liberal amount of silicone sealer over the crack both on the inside and the
outside and let it cure for several days before using the splash pan again.
I think that this could be a fairly permanent repair, as long as the
silicone sticks to the plastic fairly aggressively.
Good luck -
- Vince

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Michael Wendt on fri 23 nov 07


Paul,
One easy way is to reinforce the crack with
a piece of Aluminum sheet pop riveted along
both sides of the crack (use backing washers
and aluminum rivets too).
Decide if you want the patch on the
inside or the outside of the splash pan.
Dry fit and drill the holes first to
avoid metal bits getting into the
silicone rubber. I always use small
machine screws in each hole as
I work to make sure the holes will
match up later during the next
step.
Coat the crack with silicone rubber just
before you start pop riveting the patch.
This repair may not be pretty but is very
inexpensive and strong.
Regards,
Michael Wendt
Wendt Pottery
2729 Clearwater Ave.
Lewiston, Id 83501
U.S.A.
208-746-3724
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My splash pan has developed a crack on one of the
pieces and tends to leak
water all over me. This actually went on for close to a
year before i even
realized what was happening - i just didn't think it
would ever crack, but
most likely it is because i use a metal scraper to
clean in out and it
eventually dug a groove in the side, and the crack is
getting pretty long.
I am not sure if i really want to spend $50 for another
one of these,
especially since i only need one piece and not both and
they don't sell
them seperately.
can anyone suggest a good way to more-or-less
permanently fix it? duct
tape held up pretty well for a while but i would like
something a little
better than that.
thanks,
Paul

CHASE SC on fri 23 nov 07


Paul,

There is a product similar to liquid metal for plastic. Well that's what I
thought, I just talked to DH and he said it is similar to a small welder or
soldering gun. It blows hot air onto plastic sticks like welding rods or
solder, and it melts the plastic to repair the holes. He said it runs about
$20 from Harbor Freight. Don't know if you can find it online, or at other
stores.maybe someone else will.



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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:10:48 -0500

From: Paul Borian

Subject: Splash pan repair?



My splash pan has developed a crack on one of the pieces and tends to leak

water all over me. This actually went on for close to a year before i even

realized what was happening - i just didn't think it would ever crack, but

most likely it is because i use a metal scraper to clean in out and it

eventually dug a groove in the side, and the crack is getting pretty long.

I am not sure if i really want to spend $50 for another one of these,

especially since i only need one piece and not both and they don't sell

them seperately.

can anyone suggest a good way to more-or-less permanently fix it? duct

tape held up pretty well for a while but i would like something a little

better than that.

thanks,

Paul

Clayhannie@AOL.COM on sun 25 nov 07


I have mended our plastic splash pans with good success using J B Weld. It
is a gray two part epoxy and shows up rather ungracefully but has been
effective in both Brent and Shimpo.
Good luck.

Martha Griffith



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