Bruce Glassford on sat 15 dec 07
The Westin appears to be at 10th & Penn. The Lawrence convention
center is 10th & Fort Duquesne (the front) or 10th & Penn (the back -
don't know if there's an entrance there). The Omni William Penn is
530 Wm Penn Place, (Or Grant & Oliver... which is easier for me to
remember) The Omni is about 7 blocks away - mostly downhill as I
recall (it's been about 14 years since I moved out of Pittsburgh).
The Doubletree (that your map linked to ) is about 2 blocks further
than the Omni, across some larger streets.
In any case, I'm looking forward to meeting everyone there.
On Dec 15, 2007 6:23 PM, WJ Seidl wrote:
> I just went and perused the NCECA site. I noticed that some Clayarters
> (and others) have made reservations for the Westin, because it is "right
> at the convention center".
> Sorry, you could be seriously wrong.
> The convention is being held (according to NCECA's website) that the
> David Lawrence Convention Center, which is on the banks of the Ohio River.
> The Westin Convention Center is more inland. Blocks more.
>
WJ Seidl on sat 15 dec 07
I just went and perused the NCECA site. I noticed that some Clayarters
(and others) have made reservations for the Westin, because it is "right
at the convention center".
Sorry, you could be seriously wrong.
The convention is being held (according to NCECA's website) that the
David Lawrence Convention Center, which is on the banks of the Ohio River.
The Westin Convention Center is more inland. Blocks more.
Here's a map. *http://tinyurl.com/3xxc9l*
Check where you are staying. There are 3 convention centers in
Pittsburgh, folks...it's easy to be confused.
Best,
Wayne Seidl
Mayssan Shora Farra on sat 15 dec 07
Hello Wayne:
Here is a map with the convention center and the Hotels closest to it..
The Omni isn't it while the Westin is pretty close.
http://maps.google.com/maps?
near=1000+Fort+Duquesne+Blvd,+Pittsburgh,+PA+15222+
(David+L+Lawrence+Convention+Center)
&geocode=16456516587241483649,40.446384,-
79.996777&q=hotels&f=l&hl=en&dq=David+L+lawrence+convention+center+loc:+Pit
tsburgh,+PA&ie=UTF8&z=15&om=1
Mayssan in Charleston WV
Who is not going to be able to be there, although it is a stone throw away
for me:), but can't help trying to share in the excitement.
Bonnie Hellman on sat 15 dec 07
Wayne is right.
There is really only one big Convention Center in Pittsburgh, which, as
Wayne correctly stated is the David Lawrence Convention Center near the Ohio
River. There are no hotels right at the convention center. The other hotels
calling themselves convention centers are exactly that-- hotels with meeting
rooms.
The truth is that downtown Pittsburgh is not that big a place, and you can
walk from one end to the other in about 20 minutes. There are many hotels IN
downtown that would work. There is even one hotel just across the other
river, the Monongahela River, the Sheraton at Station Square, that isn't
terribly far away across the Smithfield Street Bridge, which has a sidewalk
and lot of pedestrians because parking is significantly cheaper out of
downtown. I don't know that you're going to find any significantly cheaper
motels until you get quite a ways out of the city.
The hotels keep changing affiliations and names, and the Doubletree Hotel
used to be right across the street from the David Lawrence Convention
Center, with a walkway from one to the other. Now it looks like it's a
Westin Pittsburgh Convention Center hotel. The clayart hotel, the Omni
William Penn used to be the Westin William Penn. The Omni is a few blocks
from the David Lawrence Convention Center.
If you search "hotels in downtown Pittsburgh, pa" in Google maps, you'll see
a bunch of them. Despite their claims, I would personally not want to walk
from the Priory, a City Inn. However the others, Hotels A through H are
walkable, particularly if the weather is nice.
Bonnie
PS The David Lawrence Convention Center is on the Allegheny River. The Mon
and the Allegheny merge at the Point at downtown Pittsburgh and form the
beginning of the Ohio River. Monongahela is pronounced: mon on ga hee' la.
It's phonetic with all vowels short except the "e".
Bonnie D. Hellman, former Pittsburgh suburban resident
Now living in Ouray, Colorado
----- Original Message -----
From: "WJ Seidl"
To:
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 4:23 PM
Subject: Check your reservations for Pittsburgh
>I just went and perused the NCECA site. I noticed that some Clayarters
> (and others) have made reservations for the Westin, because it is "right
> at the convention center".
> Sorry, you could be seriously wrong.
> The convention is being held (according to NCECA's website) that the
> David Lawrence Convention Center, which is on the banks of the Ohio River.
> The Westin Convention Center is more inland. Blocks more.
>
> Here's a map. *http://tinyurl.com/3xxc9l*
>
> Check where you are staying. There are 3 convention centers in
> Pittsburgh, folks...it's easy to be confused.
> Best,
> Wayne Seidl
>
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Steve Slatin on sun 16 dec 07
Bonnie --
But didn't the Monongahela River catch on fire a few times?
I mean it'd be a great sight,
and I'm sure the wood-kiln crew would get out there with
marshmallows and bisqued pots and try to get something
going, but is it recommended for casual pedestrians?
And do they still make "Olde Frothingslosh" (official
motto 'The Pale Stale Ale with the foam on the bottom")?
Inquiring minds, etc. -- Steve S
Bonnie Hellman wrote:
Wayne is right.
There is really only one big Convention Center in Pittsburgh, which, as
Wayne correctly stated is the David Lawrence Convention Center near the Ohio
River. There are no hotels right at the convention center. The other hotels
calling themselves convention centers are exactly that-- hotels with meeting
rooms.
The truth is that downtown Pittsburgh is not that big a place, and you can
walk from one end to the other in about 20 minutes. There are many hotels IN
downtown that would work. There is even one hotel just across the other
river, the Monongahela River,
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Chris Campbell on sun 16 dec 07
I think blaming the Omni
does not really make sense ...
they were probably asked to hold
'x' number of rooms and now they
are gone.
I bet someone will call and acquire
more rooms at that rate ... unless
the hotel really is full.
Chris Campbell - in North Carolina
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Raleigh NC 27615-2233
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Bonnie Hellman on sun 16 dec 07
Hi Steve,
The river that caught on fire about 40+ years ago was the Cayuga River in
Cleveland, only 2 1/2 hours away from Pittsburgh.
In the mid 20th century, Pittsburgh was known as the smoky city. I'm told
that some days there was so much pollution that the street lights went on at
mid day. When we moved there in 1973, those days were long gone, and
Pittsburgh was a pretty nice place to live. I've always thought of it as the
gateway to the Midwest in spirit. We had moved from the NY city area and
were pleasantly surprised to find that people were actually polite drivers,
and polite in general, reasonably friendly and helpful. This remains true
today. Pittsburgh is far more Midwest than east coast in spirit.
The most difficult part of being in Pittsburgh is navigating the roads.
Because it is very hilly everywhere EXCEPT in the downtown bordered by Grant
Street and the Three Rivers, roads are rarely straight and rarely go
strictly north-south or east-west.
Bacia, the Marriott Courtyard will be very convenient to the David L
Lawrence Convention Center. I don't know about shuttles, but the walk to the
Omni William Penn is reasonably level.
The walk to the Doubletree on Bigelow Blvd will be uphill from the
Convention Center, and downhill to the Convention Center. Bruce, the Omni
William Penn is in downtown and I never noticed any slope in the streets
from the David Lawrence Convention Center.
Steve, I had to Google Olde Frothingslosh beer, since I never saw it when we
lived in Pittsburgh. Among other web sites, I found a brief history at:
http://www.realbeer.com/news/articles/news-002425.php
I also found the obit for the woman who had been the model for the original
can at:
http://www.post-gazette.com/obituaries/20000529marsha2.asp
Bonnie
Bonnie D. Hellman
Ouray, Colorado 81427
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Slatin"
To:
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 1:32 AM
Subject: Re: Check your reservations for Pittsburgh
> Bonnie --
>
> But didn't the Monongahela River catch on fire a few times?
>
> I mean it'd be a great sight,
> and I'm sure the wood-kiln crew would get out there with
> marshmallows and bisqued pots and try to get something
> going, but is it recommended for casual pedestrians?
>
> And do they still make "Olde Frothingslosh" (official
> motto 'The Pale Stale Ale with the foam on the bottom")?
>
> Inquiring minds, etc. -- Steve S
>
>
>
>
> Bonnie Hellman wrote:
> Wayne is right.
>
> There is really only one big Convention Center in Pittsburgh, which, as
> Wayne correctly stated is the David Lawrence Convention Center near the
> Ohio
> River. There are no hotels right at the convention center. The other
> hotels
> calling themselves convention centers are exactly that-- hotels with
> meeting
> rooms.
>
> The truth is that downtown Pittsburgh is not that big a place, and you can
> walk from one end to the other in about 20 minutes. There are many hotels
> IN
> downtown that would work. There is even one hotel just across the other
> river, the Monongahela River,
>
> ---------------------------------
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