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flexible drum grinders

updated thu 20 dec 07

 

Alisha Clarke on mon 17 dec 07


I bought mine from Creative Industries at
http://www.creativewheels.com/products/Grinders/ . I heard that Rio Grande
Tools also has them, but haven't compared their prices.
Leesh
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Alisha Clarke
Pottery by Leesh: www.alishaclarke.com
Pottery Basics: www.potterybasics.com

On Dec 17, 2007 8:38 PM, Eric Suchman wrote:

> Does anyone have a source for the flexible drum grinders for
> finishing off the foot rings of bowls and plates and the like? Or a
> suitable option.
> Thanks,
> eric in Oceanside
>
>
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Vince Pitelka on mon 17 dec 07


Eric in Oceanside wrote:
> Does anyone have a source for the flexible drum grinders for
> finishing off the foot rings of bowls and plates and the like? Or a
> suitable option.

Eric -
In my experience, an abrasive flap wheel on a bench grinder works best fo=
r
this smoothing the bottoms of pots. You can find more information about
them in the archives. You'll find a decent bench grinder at Home Depot o=
r
Lowe's for about $60-$70. Go to www.grainger.com and enter part #3DV14 i=
n
the search box and it will take you to a 6" by 1" 80-grit flap wheel.=20
Notice that it has a 1" arbor hole, so you also need to order the adapter
bushing set to make it fit the 1/2" shaft on your bench grinder. Enter
part #3DV21 for the adapter set. A flap wheel and the pair of adapters
will cost you less than $25, so for less than a hundred you can get the
whole works including a bench grinder. The combination of a grinding
wheel on one end of the bench grinder, and the flap wheel on the other en=
d
is an ideal setup, good for so many studio needs such as sharpening and
shaping tools.

Some people complain of a slight discoloration on porcelain where the fla=
p
wheel is used, but it works great on stoneware, even white stoneware
bodies, and it is about the best thing there is for smoothing rough
surfaces on the bottoms of wood, salt, and soda-fired pots.
- Vince

--=20
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft
Tennessee Technological University
vpitelka@dtccom.net
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka/

Eric Suchman on mon 17 dec 07


Does anyone have a source for the flexible drum grinders for
finishing off the foot rings of bowls and plates and the like? Or a
suitable option.
Thanks,
eric in Oceanside

David Hendley on tue 18 dec 07


Eric, this is more properly called an "expanding drum sander".
A rubber wheel is made with a network of holes, and centrifugal
force makes it expand to hold a sanding belt tight in use.
I got mine at a jewelry supply house (now out of business), and
any jewelry supply should have them.
As Alisha Clarke wrote, Creative Industries, the potters wheel
company also sells them.
The best prices I have found for both the drum and the sanding
belts is Dad's Rock Shop: http://www.dadsrockshop.com/

I like using this tool for finishing the bottoms of pots and use it
for most of my work, but it is best to have options for pot bottoms.
Sometimes, a flap sander (Vince's favorite) works better. If you
have a grinder motor you could have one on each side.
Sometimes a flat surface sander works best, such as when a piece
with feet rocks and you need to level it. Look at the "grinding
disc" that attaches to your potters wheel head, also from
Creative Industries,
http://www.creativewheels.com/products/Grinders/

David Hendley
Maydelle, Texas
david(at)farmpots(dot)com
http://www.farmpots.com


>> Does anyone have a source for the flexible drum grinders for
>> finishing off the foot rings of bowls and plates and the like? Or a
>> suitable option.
>> Thanks,
>> eric in Oceanside

Hank Murrow on tue 18 dec 07


On Dec 17, 2007, at 9:52 PM, Vince Pitelka wrote:
>
> Eric -
> In my experience, an abrasive flap wheel on a bench grinder works
> best for
> this smoothing the bottoms of pots. You can find more information
> about
> them in the archives. You'll find a decent bench grinder at Home
> Depot or
> Lowe's for about $60-$70. Go to www.grainger.com and enter part
> #3DV14 in
> the search box and it will take you to a 6" by 1" 80-grit flap wheel.
> Notice that it has a 1" arbor hole, so you also need to order the
> adapter
> bushing set to make it fit the 1/2" shaft on your bench grinder.
> Enter
> part #3DV21 for the adapter set. A flap wheel and the pair of
> adapters
> will cost you less than $25, so for less than a hundred you can get
> the
> whole works including a bench grinder. The combination of a grinding
> wheel on one end of the bench grinder, and the flap wheel on the
> other end
> is an ideal setup, good for so many studio needs such as sharpening
> and
> shaping tools.
>
> Some people complain of a slight discoloration on porcelain where
> the flap
> wheel is used, but it works great on stoneware, even white stoneware
> bodies, and it is about the best thing there is for smoothing rough
> surfaces on the bottoms of wood, salt, and soda-fired pots.
> - Vince

Dear Vince and Eric;

I ordered a set of diamond laps from Master Wholesale in Seattle:

http://www.masterwholesale.com/details/1122498368.html

The set of 70, 120, 220, & 400 grit pads is all one needs to finish
the bottoms. If one uses a flap wheel first and encounters the
marking-on-porcelain problem, the 400 will take that off fast. Use
them wet for best results, and don't use much pressure......... the
diamonds do the work, not force.

Cheers for baby-butt bottoms!

Hank in Eugene
www.murrow.biz/hank

Gail Dapogny on tue 18 dec 07


Hi Hank,
Er....what are diamond laps?

Gail Dapogny in very snowy Ann Arbor , MI



On Dec 18, 2007, at 10:04 AM, Hank Murrow wrote:
>>
> Dear Vince and Eric;
>
> I ordered a set of diamond laps from Master Wholesale in Seattle:
>
> http://www.masterwholesale.com/details/1122498368.html
>
> The set of 70, 120, 220, & 400 grit pads is all one needs to finish
> the bottoms. If one uses a flap wheel first and encounters the
> marking-on-porcelain problem, the 400 will take that off fast. Use
> them wet for best results, and don't use much pressure......... the
> diamonds do the work, not force.
>
> Cheers for baby-butt bottoms!
>
> Hank in Eugene
> www.murrow.biz/hank
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
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>
>

Hank Murrow on tue 18 dec 07


DEar Gail;

If you open the link I gave, you can see that they are plastic sheets
impregnated with diamonds and glued to a hand-sized block of stiff
foam. They work a treat.

Hank
On Dec 18, 2007, at 12:08 PM, Gail Dapogny wrote:

> Hi Hank,
> Er....what are diamond laps?
>
> Gail Dapogny in very snowy Ann Arbor , MI
>
>
>
> On Dec 18, 2007, at 10:04 AM, Hank Murrow wrote:
>>>
>> Dear Vince and Eric;
>>
>> I ordered a set of diamond laps from Master Wholesale in Seattle:
>>
>> http://www.masterwholesale.com/details/1122498368.html
>>
>> The set of 70, 120, 220, & 400 grit pads is all one needs to finish
>> the bottoms. If one uses a flap wheel first and encounters the
>> marking-on-porcelain problem, the 400 will take that off fast. Use
>> them wet for best results, and don't use much pressure......... the
>> diamonds do the work, not force.
>>
>> Cheers for baby-butt bottoms!
>>
>> Hank in Eugene
>> www.murrow.biz/hank

Ron Roy on wed 19 dec 07


Hi Eric,

I would discourage anyone from dry grinding - it's better done with water
to keep the dust down.

I usually use a soft stone with the pots upside down on my wheel. Once the
stone gets a few slots ground into it you can use them to grind faster.

I've found the knife sharpeners - with a wood handle work just fine.

RR

>Eric in Oceanside wrote:
>> Does anyone have a source for the flexible drum grinders for
>> finishing off the foot rings of bowls and plates and the like? Or a
>> suitable option.
>
>Eric -

Ron Roy
RR#4
15084 Little Lake Road
Brighton, Ontario
Canada
K0K 1H0

Lee Love on thu 20 dec 07


On 12/18/07, Eric Suchman wrote:
>
> Or a suitable option.

What they use here in Mashiko, I think works better:
you take a whet stone and bust it in half. The size fits well in the
hand. You dip the stone in water, then move the stone on the
foot in a circular motion, first flat, then inside edge of foot, then
outside. Sponge the grit off after you polish.

All pots are finished this way. At the pottery festival,
potters often put a finishing polish on the feet. The ringing sound
of stone on foot is an announcement of a sale.

--
Lee in Mashiko, Japan
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