TIm Kelley on tue 18 dec 07
Randy,
I understand the problem of the freezing up. Would the size of the storage tank make a difference. Instead of a 5 or ten gallon size use a larger one.
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Subject: Re: OLYMPIC'S 1827 Torchbearer GAS kiln
From: Randy McCall <ranmcc@MSN.COM>
Date: Tue, December 18, 2007 6:23 pm
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Tim
You had better read the archives before buying an Olympic. Using a propane
tank can cause freeze up problems in the middle of a firing.
Randy
South Carolina
Pottery Web site
http://members.tripod.com/~McCallJ/index.html
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James and Sherron Bowen on tue 18 dec 07
I don't know much about your kiln, but with ours (45 Cubic feet) we needed
to hook together six 100lb (22 gallons each) tanks to avoid freeze-ups.
Problems usually started when we were on the last leg of a cone ten firing
and really putting the BTUs into the kiln.
JB
----- Original Message -----
From: TIm Kelley
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: OLYMPIC'S 1827 Torchbearer GAS kiln
Randy,
I understand the problem of the freezing up. Would the size of the storage
tank make a difference. Instead of a 5 or ten gallon size use a larger one.
Charlie Hightower on tue 18 dec 07
They can be orificed for natural gas.
--- Randy McCall wrote:
> Tim
>
> You had better read the archives before buying an
> Olympic. Using a propane
> tank can cause freeze up problems in the middle of a
> firing.
>
>
> Randy
> South Carolina
> Pottery Web site
>
> http://members.tripod.com/~McCallJ/index.html
>
>
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William & Susan Schran User on tue 18 dec 07
On 12/18/07 4:48 PM, "TIm Kelley" wrote:
> I am looking at buying an Olympic gas kiln. This is my first kiln and I am
> real excited about having it. Would all the great minds of Clay art care
> to give me advise or words of wisdom. Is it too much to handle as a first
> kiln. The out building on my property that I will be using I thought it
> would be easier to have a propane tank than to run new under ground
> service for electric. Be sides wife would not like me digging the yard up.
> Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
As your first kiln, I would not recommend this one.
There is a rather steep learning curve to achieve anywhere approaching even
firings in this kiln.
I'd recommend an electric to get started.
If you insist on getting one, please read about my adventure with this beast
on my web site below.
--
William "Bill" Schran
wschran@cox.net
wschran@nvcc.edu
http://www.creativecreekartisans.com
William & Susan Schran User on tue 18 dec 07
On 12/18/07 10:00 PM, "TIm Kelley" wrote:
> I understand the problem of the freezing up. Would the size of the storage
> tank make a difference. Instead of a 5 or ten gallon size use a larger one.
>
> I use a 250# tank for mine.
>
>
--
William "Bill" Schran
wschran@cox.net
wschran@nvcc.edu
http://www.creativecreekartisans.com
TIm Kelley on tue 18 dec 07
I am looking at buying an Olympic gas kiln. This is my first kiln and I am
real excited about having it. Would all the great minds of Clay art care
to give me advise or words of wisdom. Is it too much to handle as a first
kiln. The out building on my property that I will be using I thought it
would be easier to have a propane tank than to run new under ground
service for electric. Be sides wife would not like me digging the yard up.
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Tim Kelley
San Antonio, TX
mailto:tim@buysunrise.com
Randy McCall on tue 18 dec 07
Tim
You had better read the archives before buying an Olympic. Using a propane
tank can cause freeze up problems in the middle of a firing.
Randy
South Carolina
Pottery Web site
http://members.tripod.com/~McCallJ/index.html
Rod on wed 19 dec 07
My first kiln was one of these old beasts and I had a lot of fun and learned
a TON from it. Bill may have not had success with it, but many have and in
my opinion it is an EXCELLENT first gas kiln for someone wanting to
experiment on their own with reduction firings without the incredible
capital investment of a home built downdraft, etc.
There is a TON of information in the archives over the years about firing
this kiln. Do a search for Olympic and updraft and make your decision. I say
go for it. If you look after it you will be able to easily sell it for
almost what you paid for it. So the risks are minimal and the possible
rewards are great.
Good luck
Rod
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From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of William & Susan
Schran User
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:50 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: OLYMPIC'S 1827 Torchbearer GAS kiln
On 12/18/07 4:48 PM, "TIm Kelley" wrote:
> I am looking at buying an Olympic gas kiln. This is my first kiln and I am
> real excited about having it. Would all the great minds of Clay art care
> to give me advise or words of wisdom. Is it too much to handle as a first
> kiln. The out building on my property that I will be using I thought it
> would be easier to have a propane tank than to run new under ground
> service for electric. Be sides wife would not like me digging the yard up.
> Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
As your first kiln, I would not recommend this one.
There is a rather steep learning curve to achieve anywhere approaching even
firings in this kiln.
I'd recommend an electric to get started.
If you insist on getting one, please read about my adventure with this beast
on my web site below.
--
William "Bill" Schran
wschran@cox.net
wschran@nvcc.edu
http://www.creativecreekartisans.com
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Charlie Hightower on wed 19 dec 07
Depending on the size of your kiln you can get away
with chaining two or three 5 gallons together. I've
never fired a kiln like that with those conditions in
winter. Only summer. Works.
--- TIm Kelley wrote:
---------------------------------
Randy,
I understand the problem of the freezing up. Would the
size of the storage tank make a difference. Instead of
a 5 or ten gallon size use a larger one.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: OLYMPIC'S 1827 Torchbearer GAS kiln
From: Randy McCall
Date: Tue, December 18, 2007 6:23 pm
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Tim
You had better read the archives before buying an
Olympic. Using a propane
tank can cause freeze up problems in the middle of a
firing.
Randy
South Carolina
Pottery Web site
http://members.tripod.com/~McCallJ/index.html
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Rob Haugen on wed 19 dec 07
The Olympic Torch bearers are designed to be a portable and an inexpensive
way to do reduction cone 10 firings. There is a lot of information about
the Olympic Torchbearers on ClayArt, some positive and some not so positive.
I will say that if the kiln is properly set up (correct gas pressure,
correct shelf size and correct shelf placement) you will get good firing
results with our kilns. The kilns do tend to be slightly hotter and reduce
heavier in the top of the kiln. This is not a bad thing, you need to load
the kiln accordingly. Some glazes like the top of the kiln and some glazes
like the bottom of the kiln. There is a learning curve with any gas fired
kiln. We pioneered this type of kiln over 35 years ago because there was a
need for such a kiln. It is not as easy to fire as an electric kiln, but
the firing results can not be duplicated electrically. Good luck with your
decision. If you have any questions please do not hesitate to call me at
800-241-4400.
Rob Haugen
Olympic Kilns
www.greatkilns.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "TIm Kelley"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 4:48 PM
Subject: OLYMPIC'S 1827 Torchbearer GAS kiln
>I am looking at buying an Olympic gas kiln. This is my first kiln and I am
> real excited about having it. Would all the great minds of Clay art care
> to give me advise or words of wisdom. Is it too much to handle as a first
> kiln. The out building on my property that I will be using I thought it
> would be easier to have a propane tank than to run new under ground
> service for electric. Be sides wife would not like me digging the yard up.
> Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> Tim Kelley
>
> San Antonio, TX
>
> mailto:tim@buysunrise.com
>
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Frank Colson on thu 20 dec 07
Well, anyway. I just wrapped an electric blanket around my tank(s) to
prevent freeze up. Always worked, and gave me the chance to view
Oiron in the sky on those cold Oaxaca nights in Mexico!
Frank Colson
----- Original Message -----
From: "James and Sherron Bowen"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: OLYMPIC'S 1827 Torchbearer GAS kiln
>I don't know much about your kiln, but with ours (45 Cubic feet) we needed
> to hook together six 100lb (22 gallons each) tanks to avoid freeze-ups.
> Problems usually started when we were on the last leg of a cone ten firing
> and really putting the BTUs into the kiln.
> JB
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: TIm Kelley
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:00 PM
> Subject: Re: OLYMPIC'S 1827 Torchbearer GAS kiln
>
>
> Randy,
>
> I understand the problem of the freezing up. Would the size of the
> storage
> tank make a difference. Instead of a 5 or ten gallon size use a larger
> one.
>
> ______________________________________________________________________________
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