Angela Davis on sun 30 dec 07
I never knew the red squeeze bulb was attributed to
Pete Pinell but have used it exclusively since my instructor
introduced me to it.
The control is wonderful, for wax, slip or glaze, I now own 4.
Try one.
Angela Davis
In Homosassa inspired by all the Etsy talk to get busy and actually put
something
up for sale. I opened an account last year but never followed up.
You can check out my gallery here,
http://www.etsy.com/shop.php?user_id=5003924&page=1§ion_id=&order=
hope to have some Art tiles up soon.
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From: "Victoria E. Hamilton"
To:
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: Advice on best slip trailers
> Gina -
>
> I have no experience with the airpen. I use the "official Pete Pinell"
> slip
> trailer - like it a lot. I got it from Highwater Clay for about $5 or $6.
> You can find it at www.highwaterclay.com. You need to call them to order
> it, though.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Vicki Hamilton
> Millennia Antica Pottery
> Seattle, WA
>
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> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 1:12 PM
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: Advice on best slip trailers
>
> Hi All,
> I was looking for a slip trailing device and was wondering if someone had
> any particular ideas or a slip trailer sold by someone that works well.
> Not
> many come up when I googled them but I did run into something called the
> airpen. Anyone ever used this devise and could critique it?
>
> Gina Mars
> ww.marspottery.net
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KATHI LESUEUR on sun 30 dec 07
I use precision oilers from Gaunt Industries. They are syringes of
varying sizes with a bottle attached.
Kathi
D Barnese on sun 30 dec 07
Hi Gina,
I bought an Air Pen last year because I do a lot of slip decoration and
using a squeeze bottle was causing problems with my hands. I really like
it for doing fine lines and dot work. If you need to do wide lines, I
wouldn't recommend it because the syringes have fairly small capacity
and run out of slip very quickly; but for fine work it is a great tool
and will really save your hands.
Dina Barnese
Zizziba Studio
Flagstaff, Arizona
http://www.zizziba.com
gina mars on sun 30 dec 07
Hi All,
I was looking for a slip trailing device and was wondering if someone =
had any particular ideas or a slip trailer sold by someone that works =
well. Not many come up when I googled them but I did run into something =
called the airpen. Anyone ever used this devise and could critique it?
Gina Mars
ww.marspottery.net
William & Susan Schran User on sun 30 dec 07
On 12/30/07 4:11 PM, "gina mars" wrote:
> I was looking for a slip trailing device and was wondering if someone had any
> particular ideas or a slip trailer sold by someone that works well.
Attended a presentation by Randy Brodnax & Don Ellis at which they suggested
the best slip trailing bottle was a plastic disposal enema bottle. Fleet is
one brand and can be had for about $2.
Bill
--
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wschran@nvcc.edu
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Richard Walker on sun 30 dec 07
Gina,
My experience has led me to believe that the slip trailer is only about as good as the person using it. Personally I wouldn't bother wasting money on one. I use two varieties, one is a used plastic ketchup and mustard bottle, and the second is a dental syringe that has a curved end and a narrow opening. By gauging the thick or thin of the slip, as far as I am concerned, they do just as well as a commercial one.
Dick Walker
>From: gina mars
>Date: 2007/12/30 Sun PM 03:11:55 CST
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: Advice on best slip trailers
>Hi All,
>I was looking for a slip trailing device and was wondering if someone had any particular ideas or a slip trailer sold by someone that works well. Not many come up when I googled them but I did run into something called the airpen. Anyone ever used this devise and could critique it?
>
>Gina Mars
>ww.marspottery.net
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pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on sun 30 dec 07
Hi Gina,
Some of these might work...
http://shop.ebay.com/ear-bulb_W0QQ_nkwZearQ20bulb
Phil
l v
----- Original Message -----
From: "gina mars"
Hi All,
I was looking for a slip trailing device and was wondering if someone had
any particular ideas or a slip trailer sold by someone that works well. Not
many come up when I googled them but I did run into something called the
airpen. Anyone ever used this devise and could critique it?
Gina Mars
ww.marspottery.net
Victoria E. Hamilton on sun 30 dec 07
Gina -
I have no experience with the airpen. I use the "official Pete Pinell" slip
trailer - like it a lot. I got it from Highwater Clay for about $5 or $6.
You can find it at www.highwaterclay.com. You need to call them to order
it, though.
Hope this helps.
Vicki Hamilton
Millennia Antica Pottery
Seattle, WA
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of gina mars
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 1:12 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Advice on best slip trailers
Hi All,
I was looking for a slip trailing device and was wondering if someone had
any particular ideas or a slip trailer sold by someone that works well. Not
many come up when I googled them but I did run into something called the
airpen. Anyone ever used this devise and could critique it?
Gina Mars
ww.marspottery.net
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vpitelka on sun 30 dec 07
Gina Mars wrote:
"I was looking for a slip trailing device and was wondering if someone had
any particular ideas or a slip trailer sold by someone that works well. Not
many come up when I googled them but I did run into something called the
airpen. Anyone ever used this devise and could critique it?"
Dear Gina -
I would suggest you abandon all attempt to get a good slip trailer from
ceramic suppliers. The ones I have seen are all too finicky or expensive.
Same with ear/nose syringe bulbs purchased from pharmacies. I used to use
those equipped with a basketball inflating needle with the tip trimmed back.
But then I discovered hair tint bottles, available from a beauty supply
store for pennies, or from Walgreens or Rite-Aid or any such retailer. They
have a long, smoothly-tapered, sharply-pointed tip, and you can trim them
back as far as you wish in order to get the width of line you want. One
suggestion - when you trim them back, take a folded sheet of very fine
sandpaper - perhaps 300-grit, and sand off any burs from the edges, so that
the tip will not dig into the clay so badly if it does touch the surface
while you are trailing.
Hair-tint bottles work better than any other slip-trailer I have ever used.
I haven't used the "Air Pen," but I expect that it is intended for fine-line
work with commercial media. Some of the ceramic suppliers sell small
slip-trailing bottles with interchangeable tips, and those might be better
in some cases when using more-expensive commercial media like underglazes,
but for slips you have mixed yourself and for any serious slip trailing you
want a larger reservoir, and hair-tint bottles are the cat's meow. At a
beauty supply store you can buy a case of them for ten bucks and experiment
to your heart's content.
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft
Tennessee Tech University
vpitelka@dtccom.net; wpitelka@tntech.edu
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka
James and Sherron Bowen on sun 30 dec 07
Two good trailers are the Clairol tint & toner bottle or the generic
equivalent at $1.00-$1.50
or an ear syringe with a basketball inflation needle fastened on the end of
the syringe. (cut or file off the end of the needle)
JB
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To:
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 2:11 PM
Subject: Advice on best slip trailers
Lee Love on mon 31 dec 07
The ones we use here are rubber syringe bulbs with a plastic tip.
You can buy brass tips that go onto the plastic tip for fine lines.
I have to remember to pack a few when I go back to Mpls.
--
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Kathy McDonald on mon 31 dec 07
Kathi,
Thank you thank you thank you.
I am totally out of the ones I inherited from a jeweler
friend
several years ago.
best things I've ever used for onglaze decoration..I
heartily endorse these
for doing fine lines etc.
Pete's trailer is great as well.
I used to have to buy 50 of each size of tip just to get
some different gauge sizes.
Do these guys let you mix and match the tip sizes in the 48
min order.
Kathy Mc
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On Behalf Of
KATHI
LESUEUR
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 7:45 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Re: Advice on best slip trailers
I use precision oilers from Gaunt Industries. They are
syringes of
varying sizes with a bottle attached.
Kathi
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Leigh Whitaker on mon 31 dec 07
Some of you might be interested in just buying needles and luer lock squeeze
bottles. You can get blunt needles from medical or research supply places
on the internet. My husband is an analytical chemist and he uses blunt
needles and luer lock syringes for injecting stuff into some of his instruments.
Do a google search for "syringe needles blunt luer" and/or "luer hub squeeze
bottle" and you will come up with some sources. You can find needles in
different lengths too and with 90 degree bends in them. I like the precision
oiling bottle too, but I wish the needle tips were shorter. I've found some
1/2 inch needles on line, and I may order some of those and try them out.
For example try this site (look at the blunt needles and the squeeze
bottles): _http://www.howardelectronics.com/jensen/products.html_
(http://www.howardelectronics.com/jensen/products.html)
Leigh
In a message dated 12/31/2007 7:45:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
potter@WESTMAN.WAVE.CA writes:
Kathi,
Thank you thank you thank you.
I am totally out of the ones I inherited from a jeweler
friend
several years ago.
best things I've ever used for onglaze decoration..I
heartily endorse these
for doing fine lines etc.
Pete's trailer is great as well.
I used to have to buy 50 of each size of tip just to get
some different gauge sizes.
Do these guys let you mix and match the tip sizes in the 48
min order.
Kathy Mc
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steve graber on mon 31 dec 07
leigh - next time your husband goes to a medical related trade show ask him to get for you those "nassal aspirators" (baby snott suckers).
i met one of the manufacturers at a trade show and told him i like those for extra glaze work here & there.
he sent me from his plant a BIG bag of scrap parts that didn't meet their requirements but were perfect for me and FREE!
they were actually better then the ones i was able to buy at the stores. more silicone or something... much more flexible yet hold the glaze well too.
see ya
Steve Graber, Graber's Pottery, Inc
Claremont, California USA
The Steve Tool - for awesum texture on pots!
www.graberspottery.com steve@graberspottery.com
----- Original Message ----
From: Leigh Whitaker
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 6:16:39 AM
Subject: Re: Advice on best slip trailers
Some of you might be interested in just buying needles and luer lock squeeze
bottles. You can get blunt needles from medical or research supply places
on the internet. My husband is an analytical chemist and he uses blunt
needles and luer lock syringes for injecting stuff into some of his instruments.
Do a google search for "syringe needles blunt luer" and/or "luer hub squeeze
bottle" and you will come up with some sources. You can find needles in
different lengths too and with 90 degree bends in them. I like the precision
oiling bottle too, but I wish the needle tips were shorter. I've found some
1/2 inch needles on line, and I may order some of those and try them out.
For example try this site (look at the blunt needles and the squeeze
bottles): _http://www.howardelectronics.com/jensen/products.html_
(http://www.howardelectronics.com/jensen/products.html)
Leigh
In a message dated 12/31/2007 7:45:04 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
potter@WESTMAN.WAVE.CA writes:
Kathi,
Thank you thank you thank you.
I am totally out of the ones I inherited from a jeweler
friend
several years ago.
best things I've ever used for onglaze decoration..I
heartily endorse these
for doing fine lines etc.
Pete's trailer is great as well.
I used to have to buy 50 of each size of tip just to get
some different gauge sizes.
Do these guys let you mix and match the tip sizes in the 48
min order.
Kathy Mc
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Dale Neese on mon 31 dec 07
I don't know where I got this information on a slip trailer I use but it
pretty simple and reliable. Get one of those squeeze bulbs at the pharmacy.
Take a piece of 12 gauge coated copper wire. Slide the plastic coating off
an 1 1/2 inch piece of the copper wire and insert it into the end of the
bulb as a tip. Makes really nice slip lines better than just the bulb
itself. You can cut the tip on an angle or just leave it straight.
Happy Trails!
Dale Tex
"across the alley from the Alamo"
San Antonio, Texas USA
www.daleneese.com
vpitelka on mon 31 dec 07
Kathi LeSueur wrote:
"I use precision oilers from Gaunt Industries. They are syringes of
varying sizes with a bottle attached."
This sounded interesting, and I did a web search and came up with this
website:
http://www.gauntindustries.com/cgi-bin/order.cgi
They make them in various sizes up to a 4-oz bottle, which is pretty
comparable to the hair-tint bottles I mentioned in an earlier post. If you
buy 12 of them, you get them for $3 apiece, which is a lot more expensive
than a hair-tint bottle, but these do have those nice stainless steel
needles, and there is a choice of sizes. I wonder if they will let you mix
sizes and still get the same quantity discount?
I've been happy with the hair-tint bottles, but I also still use my rubber
ear-syringe squeeze-bulbs with the basketball-inflating needles attached.
You can purchase a package of basketball-inflating needles at any
sporting-goods store, but make sure you get name-brand ones - Wilson or
something like that. They will be brass, whereas the cut-rate ones are
often aluminum and will corrode very quickly in use. Trim back the tip of
the rubber bulb until the threaded end of the basketball needle is a snug
fit in the opening. The basketball-inflating needles come with a closed
rounded tip, and a side hole about 1/8" back from the tip. Obviously that
won't work for slip trailing, but if you just snip the tip off with wire
cutters it will flatten the tip. Straighten out a paper clip and stick the
straight end all the way into the basketball needle, and then clip off the
needle with wire cutters, removing the tip including the side hole, and
remove the paper clip. That will keep it from collapsing. Sand with fine
sandpaper to remove the burrs. For best results, purchase some very small
heat-shrink tubing and shrink a short length over the tip of the needle so
that it extends a half inch beyond the needle. That way, if it accidentally
drags on the surface it won't dig in so badly.
That said, the combined cost of the needle and the ear syringe bulb will
likely be more than those nice bottles form Gaunt Industries.
On the Gaunt Industries home page they explain how the company started in
1949 making oilers for model railroaders, and their company slogan was "Does
your locomotive drool? Use Hypo-Oiler as your very best tool!"
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft
Tennessee Tech University
vpitelka@dtccom.net; wpitelka@tntech.edu
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka
James and Sherron Bowen on mon 31 dec 07
Vet supply houses are good sources of graduated syringes, cheap.
JB
http://www.jefferslivestock.com/ssc/product.asp?CID=2&mscssid=8M5UXREVJEG98P4U0DJB7VFUD53JAWXC
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Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: Advice on best slip trailers
KATHI LESUEUR on mon 31 dec 07
On Dec 31, 2007, at 6:24 AM, Kathy McDonald wrote:
>
> I used to have to buy 50 of each size of tip just to get
> some different gauge sizes.
> Do these guys let you mix and match the tip sizes in the 48
> min order.
>
> Kathy Mc
>
Yes.
Kathi
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> From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On Behalf Of
> KATHI
> LESUEUR
> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 7:45 PM
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: Re: Advice on best slip trailers
>
>
> I use precision oilers from Gaunt Industries. They are
> syringes of
> varying sizes with a bottle attached.
>
> Kathi
>
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Lee Love on tue 1 jan 08
On 12/31/07, Kathy McDonald wrote:
>
> I use precision oilers from Gaunt Industries. They are
> syringes of
> varying sizes with a bottle attached.
http://www.gauntindustries.com/cgi-bin/order.cgi
These graduated syringes would be good for doing test grids and they
only cost a couple bucks each. Wonder if you can buy the syringes
separately? No need for needles with the test grids.
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