sacredclay on thu 3 jan 08
Hi all! I've been out of the loop for awhile, so I'm trying to catch
up on previous postings. It's good to see again familiar names that I
consider to be my old friends.I kept thinking about the posts last
year about if we could have ten wishes and what would they be. I'm
considering the same thing this year and at the top of the list is to
find a job as a cerarmic instructor, whether in a two years college
or a university and finally get out of this economic poverty.Part of
the frusterations is that the pickings is slim and what's available
want those with a master degree. I've only got a paltry BFA in
ceramics.I don't want to go back to school for several reasons. I
want to teach in one. For those of you in the field, what are my
chances? Someone said that my years of experience in teaching it
should help overcome that.I just have to market myself as
that.Additionally, I'm revamping my resume. I'm stumped as to the
heading "objective". Whatever I put down, comes off as too simple or
not enough details. There's more to just writing "I want to rip away
people's veil to the beautiful world of clay and have the clay
touches their heart." A tad too dramatic and poetic, I'm sure, but
the other way of "I want to teach clay" is too simple and doesn't
encompass what I want to say. But then again, I'm thinking, what do I
WANT to say? I really don't have a clue, as it all boils down to this-
I love teaching ceramics to others. I love the connections that I
make with them. But I don't think I really need a master degree to
know that. Suggestions, anyone? I'm throwing a bunch of seed pods up
in the air and seeing what blows backat me. Happy New year to one and
all. May you make alot of beautiful pots this year. Kathryn Hughes in
NC
William & Susan Schran User on thu 3 jan 08
On 1/3/08 3:21 PM, "sacredclay" wrote:
> I'm
> considering the same thing this year and at the top of the list is to
> find a job as a cerarmic instructor, whether in a two years college
> or a university and finally get out of this economic poverty.Part of
> the frusterations is that the pickings is slim and what's available
> want those with a master degree. I've only got a paltry BFA in
> ceramics.I don't want to go back to school for several reasons. I
> want to teach in one. For those of you in the field, what are my
> chances?
Slim to none.
Most all accredited colleges, 2 & 4 year, require a Master's in any program
that is a transfer program. Many occupational/technical programs only
require a Bachelor's.
If you won't go back for your Master's, then you'll need to look at private
K-12 education or community center types of jobs.
Ask Tony C., he'll explain...
Bill
--
William "Bill" Schran
wschran@cox.net
wschran@nvcc.edu
http://www.creativecreekartisans.com
L. P. Skeen on thu 3 jan 08
Kathryn,
In the "higher ed" schools, your chances are zero, unless you can get =
into a community college situation, where they actually recognize life =
experience as a valuable thing. In the public school system, you can =
forget it altogether, as there are more licensed graduates coming out of =
art schools than there are jobs available, and a school will ALWAYS hire =
someone with licensure before they'll go with a lateral entry teacher, =
especially in Art, where there's only (usually) one job per school. =
(Don't ask me how I know this. )
Lisa, who is about to start school AGAIN, so I can get licensure in =
middle grades language arts, because of the above....
www.livingtreestudios.etsy.com
----- Original Message -----=20
From: sacredclay=20
find a job as a cerarmic instructor, whether in a two years college or =
a university and finally get out of this economic poverty
I've only got a paltry BFA in ceramics.I don't want to go back to =
school for several reasons. I want to teach in one. For those of you in =
the field, what are my chances? Someone said that my years of experience =
in teaching it
should help overcome that.I just have to market myself as
that.Additionally, I'm revamping my resume. I'm stumped as to the
heading "objective". Whatever I put down, comes off as too simple or
not enough details. There's more to just writing "I want to rip away
people's veil to the beautiful world of clay and have the clay
touches their heart." A tad too dramatic and poetic, I'm sure, but
the other way of "I want to teach clay" is too simple and doesn't
encompass what I want to say. But then again, I'm thinking, what do I
WANT to say? I really don't have a clue, as it all boils down to this-
I love teaching ceramics to others. I love the connections that I
make with them. But I don't think I really need a master degree to
know that. Suggestions, anyone? I'm throwing a bunch of seed pods up
in the air and seeing what blows backat me. Happy New year to one and
all. May you make alot of beautiful pots this year. Kathryn Hughes in
NC
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chris massingill on thu 3 jan 08
Kathryn,
You might want to try K-12 - I have BFA in ceramics, but then went through a non-traditional licensure program to teach K-12 art. It's mostly on the job training with a couple of weeks in the summer plus one weekend a month of classes. Some high schools have clay classes, so you might be able to find something teaching clay plus maybe some intro classes at a high school that already has an established program and equipment.
chris massingill in Central Arkansas
www.chrismassingill.com
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From: sacredclay
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2008 2:21:21 PM
Subject: BFA's for teaching position---- hmmmm........
Hi all! I've been out of the loop for awhile, so I'm trying to catch
up on previous postings. It's good to see again familiar names that I
consider to be my old friends.I kept thinking about the posts last
year about if we could have ten wishes and what would they be. I'm
considering the same thing this year and at the top of the list is to
find a job as a cerarmic instructor, whether in a two years college
or a university and finally get out of this economic poverty.Part of
the frusterations is that the pickings is slim and what's available
want those with a master degree. I've only got a paltry BFA in
ceramics.I don't want to go back to school for several reasons. I
want to teach in one. For those of you in the field, what are my
chances? Someone said that my years of experience in teaching it
should help overcome that.I just have to market myself as
that.Additionally, I'm revamping my resume. I'm stumped as to the
heading "objective". Whatever I put down, comes off as too simple or
not enough details. There's more to just writing "I want to rip away
people's veil to the beautiful world of clay and have the clay
touches their heart." A tad too dramatic and poetic, I'm sure, but
the other way of "I want to teach clay" is too simple and doesn't
encompass what I want to say. But then again, I'm thinking, what do I
WANT to say? I really don't have a clue, as it all boils down to this-
I love teaching ceramics to others. I love the connections that I
make with them. But I don't think I really need a master degree to
know that. Suggestions, anyone? I'm throwing a bunch of seed pods up
in the air and seeing what blows backat me. Happy New year to one and
all. May you make alot of beautiful pots this year. Kathryn Hughes in
NC
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Fred Parker on fri 4 jan 08
Hi Kathryn:
A couple of decades back I decided I wanted to teach architecture students
some of the jewels of knowledge I had gained in my career -- knowledge
that my professors apparently never got because all they had done was
teach. I contacted what was formerly a "technical school" recently turned
four-year college, with a school of architecture. I thought it would be a
good place to try because they only offered a four-year bachelor's degree
in architecture. I have a five-year bachelor's degree (I can't explain
it. Just another weird thing abouty architecture, I guess.)
Anyway, I made an appointment to see the dean of the school. I explained
my hopes and he immediately stomped them flat by informing me that in
Georgia, anyone teaching at the college level MUST have a masters or
higher. Thus endeth the lesson.
You might want to check to se if this is the case where you are. No
reason to waste a lot of time/effort on it if the bureaucrats have already
decided the outcome...
Good luck to you,
Fred Parker
Snail Scott on fri 4 jan 08
On Jan 3, 2008, at 11:00 PM, Automatic digest processor wrote:
>
> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 20:21:21 -0000
> From: sacredclay
> >[wanting]...to
> find a job as a cerarmic instructor, whether in a two years college
> or a university...pickings is slim and what's available
> want those with a master degree. I've only got a paltry BFA...
> ...what are my chances?
Not great, frankly. 30 years ago, an MFA was a rare bird, and
that left the door open to skilled experienced teachers with
fewer academic credentials. Now, however, with 50-100
applicants for any decent position, and dozens even for lesser
positions, weeding out the non-MFA's is just an easy way to
thin out the applicant pack. Since there are still many qualified
people who don't get eliminated, it's hard to convince a hiring
committee that they ought to widen the field, when narrowing
it down is the goal, and a huge task.
It doesn't mean that you can't get a position, but it will be part-
time, on an adjunct basis. Almost all university full-time
teaching jobs and most community college jobs specifically
require a terminal degree in the relevant field - a PhD in most
disciplines, but (thankfully) still a Master's in the studio arts.
Most adjunct faculty DO have MFA's, and many hold several
such part-time jobs, hoping to build their resume and score
one of the coveted full-time positions. However, it is possible
for a non-MFA candidate to get hired. Regulations on hiring
for adjunct jobs are looser than for full-time jobs, so an MFA
isn't always specifically required.
Also, adjunct instructors tend to be mobile. Since the school
has made no long-term commitment to them, they are more
likely than full-time faculty to look for greener pastures. Also,
they may have only a few weeks or less to accept or refuse
teaching offers for an upcoming semester, so if they decline
a job, the institution will be looking for other people on even
shorter notice. When that happens, the school can't be too
fussy - they need a teacher on contract for next semester,
pronto. That could be you!
To be the person who gets called in a pinch (and maybe
retained regularly in the future), you need to get your resume,
cover letter, and portfolio (20 objects in jpg format on a CD,
but also a few color prints) on file with every school you'd
consider as an employer. And renew it regularly. Meet the
people who are the big muckety-mucks in that program.
Look up their names on the school website, and get on the
mailing list for school events. Introduce yourself at gallery
openings, show your interest, and re-introduce yourself at
the next event, too.
Most adjunct hirings are not the result of a formal search,
and are seldom advertised. People who are known to be
available get called, and people who aren't available may
be asked to recommend someone, so network! Tell
friends in the local arts community what you are after;
you never know who knows someone.
> ...I'm revamping my resume. I'm stumped as to the
> heading "objective"...
'Objective' is a category that sounds mandatory if you read
those standardized resume-writing books, but it's really
more of a business-world thing. It's almost never found in
academic resumes. That information should go in your
cover letter instead. For that, feel free to elaborate on your
intentions, but remember, your personal desires are not
their concern. Show your enthusiasm and commitment,
but keep the focus on the job: What you can do for them,
and why you would be excellent at it.
-Snail
Lee on fri 4 jan 08
On Jan 4, 2008 7:00 AM, William & Susan Schran User wrote:
>
> Ask Tony C., he'll explain...
Also, many universities require a/n national/international reputation.
--
Lee in Mashiko, Tochigi Japan
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
"Tea is nought but this: first you heat the water, then you make the
tea. Then you drink it properly. That is all you need to know."
--Sen No Rikyu
"Let the beauty we love be what we do." - Rumi
Lee on fri 4 jan 08
On Jan 4, 2008 5:21 AM, sacredclay wrote:
>
> want those with a master degree. I've only got a paltry BFA in
> ceramics.I don't want to go back to school for several reasons. I
> want to teach in one.
One way to have your cake and eat it too is to get a teaching
assistantship. Or , teach part time like Tony C. has done in the
past.
In these two ways of teaching, you aren't spending a large
amount of your time at committee meetings and in administration.
--
Lee in Mashiko, Tochigi Japan
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
"Tea is nought but this: first you heat the water, then you make the
tea. Then you drink it properly. That is all you need to know."
--Sen No Rikyu
"Let the beauty we love be what we do." - Rumi
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