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can you stand another bowls fundraiser question?

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primalmommy on thu 3 jan 08


I've spent much of the morning in the archives, looking up Empty Bowls
projects, but not finding what I need, exactly.

Last summer when school was out, I temporarily lost my mind and agreed
to spend Sundays in January making 90 bowls with 30 K-12th grade kids at
the Uu church. (What was I thinking?)

Yes, I got the official Empty Bowls stamp and packet.

In the past, I have mass-produced bowls with groups of kids by having
them build (coil, textured slab, multi-colored clay, or whatever) inside
of one of those cardboardish "Chinet" bowls... but once they dry and are
fired, shrinkage makes a pretty small bowl. And plastic is almost all I
can find these days, in ugly shapes at that.

I have a dozen nice roundish plastic cereal bowls, but hate to mess with
fabric, cellophane or spray lube with all those little hands if I can
avoid it.

My plan is to make stamps and roulettes and one set of bowls the first
Sunday... make a set of bowls using the stamps and roulettes on the
second sunday.. and the third sunday, glaze the previous set, and then
make slumped bowls from slabs they have decorated with colored slips
(maybe a hand print stencil, like one I saw in PMI?)

I'd like the bowls to be recognizably individual, since parents will
likely want to buy the ones their kids make...maybe the sig stamp will
serve that purpose. I also would like to work out methods that the
little kids can do wth some success, but the bigger kids or budding
artists can really run with and make something spectacular.

I guess what I am looking for is an idea for a slump/hump mold form that
I can come up with 30 of, inexpensively... or ideas for decorating,
forming, whatever. I hope some of the art teachers on clayart can help
me out!

I also have Ann Tubbs and a few other local potters agreeing to donate a
bowl for a silent auction... any suggestion from veterans on how best to
manage that part?

Our soup event will be the first sunday in February, after church... all
proceeds to local food banks and soup kitchens.

Thanks in advance to anyone with suggestions. Once I get this plan put
together, all I have to do is come up with a syllabus for my next
Potter's Guild class (which starts Wednesday), a syllabus for the class
I'll be teaching at EMU (which starts Saturday) and get my ducks in a
row for the last semester of my MFA program (starts Monday).

Right now I have to go help the kiddies pack, we're off to Atlanta for a
weekend at the zoo and aquarium. It's the last hoorah before our
schedule eats us again.

Yours
Kelly in Ohio... where Santa Claus will liberate me from
slower-than-molasses dial-up internet connection, some time next week!



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Bonnie Hellman on thu 3 jan 08


Hi Kelly,

I believe Kathy Triplett in her book Handbuilt Tableware shows a wooden
board (1/2" to 5/8" thick plywood) where you cut out a round hole in the
center. You prop up this board to the height of the bowl you want, and place
a flat slab on it. The clay slab slumps into the round hole.

I've made 10" or 12" plates this way, although I've had a problem when I
made 2" deep bowls because that much clay folded in a few places as it
slumped, or maybe I was impatient and forced the clay to slump.

With a soup bowl size, you could probably use thinner boards and texture
your slabs before slumping.

In any case it should be reasonably easy to try one and see.

Bonnie

Bonnie D. Hellman
Ouray, Colorado 81427

----- Original Message -----
From: "primalmommy"
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Subject: Can you stand another bowls fundraiser question?


> I've spent much of the morning in the archives, looking up Empty Bowls
> projects, but not finding what I need, exactly.
>
> Last summer when school was out, I temporarily lost my mind and agreed
> to spend Sundays in January making 90 bowls with 30 K-12th grade kids at
> the Uu church. (What was I thinking?)
>
> Yes, I got the official Empty Bowls stamp and packet.
>
> In the past, I have mass-produced bowls with groups of kids by having
> them build (coil, textured slab, multi-colored clay, or whatever) inside
> of one of those cardboardish "Chinet" bowls... but once they dry and are
> fired, shrinkage makes a pretty small bowl. And plastic is almost all I
> can find these days, in ugly shapes at that.
>
> I have a dozen nice roundish plastic cereal bowls, but hate to mess with
> fabric, cellophane or spray lube with all those little hands if I can
> avoid it.
>
> My plan is to make stamps and roulettes and one set of bowls the first
> Sunday... make a set of bowls using the stamps and roulettes on the
> second sunday.. and the third sunday, glaze the previous set, and then
> make slumped bowls from slabs they have decorated with colored slips
> (maybe a hand print stencil, like one I saw in PMI?)
>
> I'd like the bowls to be recognizably individual, since parents will
> likely want to buy the ones their kids make...maybe the sig stamp will
> serve that purpose. I also would like to work out methods that the
> little kids can do wth some success, but the bigger kids or budding
> artists can really run with and make something spectacular.
>
> I guess what I am looking for is an idea for a slump/hump mold form that
> I can come up with 30 of, inexpensively... or ideas for decorating,
> forming, whatever. I hope some of the art teachers on clayart can help
> me out!
>
> I also have Ann Tubbs and a few other local potters agreeing to donate a
> bowl for a silent auction... any suggestion from veterans on how best to
> manage that part?
>
> Our soup event will be the first sunday in February, after church... all
> proceeds to local food banks and soup kitchens.
>
> Thanks in advance to anyone with suggestions. Once I get this plan put
> together, all I have to do is come up with a syllabus for my next
> Potter's Guild class (which starts Wednesday), a syllabus for the class
> I'll be teaching at EMU (which starts Saturday) and get my ducks in a
> row for the last semester of my MFA program (starts Monday).
>
> Right now I have to go help the kiddies pack, we're off to Atlanta for a
> weekend at the zoo and aquarium. It's the last hoorah before our
> schedule eats us again.
>
> Yours
> Kelly in Ohio... where Santa Claus will liberate me from
> slower-than-molasses dial-up internet connection, some time next week!
>
>
>
> http://www.primalpotter.com
> http://www.primalmommy.com/blog.html
>
>
> Click for travel nursing jobs and see the world.
> > F9awEOmSHOYuh/>
>
>
>
>

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Lori Leary on thu 3 jan 08


Kelly,
Try using Dannon's method for making molds for the bowls. I've done
that for groups, and it works well. Throw thick largish bowls, but
focus on the inside shape, which will become the outside shape of the
kid's bowls. While you are throwing them, make a circular indentation
in the bottom inside of the bowl to leave an indentation for the foot
ring (avoiding undercuts). Let the molds dry, and have the kids slab
build bowls inside the molds. The dry molds quickly suck out the
moisture from the kid's bowls, making it easy to pop them out and reuse
the molds. Just make sure the molds themselves are fairly thick and
sturdy. When done, just recycle the dry molds. This works well,
especially if you have a pugmill ( I think you do?) to makes things
easier. If you want to save the molds for future use, just bisque them.

Hope this makes sense, as I am in a decongestant wonderland right now....

P.S. : Might I suggest the Michael C. Carlos Museum at Emory University
if you have time? They have a wonderful permanent collection called
"Art of the Ancient Americas" as well as lots of other great things to
see. My sister's father-in-law donated his Pre-Columbian collection a
while back, 1300 pieces. Pretty amazing place...

http://www.carlos.emory.edu/

Email me offlist or call me (770-870-0971), if you like...

Lori L.

primalmommy wrote:
>
> I guess what I am looking for is an idea for a slump/hump mold form that
> I can come up with 30 of, inexpensively... or ideas for decorating,
> forming, whatever. I hope some of the art teachers on clayart can help
> me out!
>
>
>

john hartom on thu 3 jan 08


Kelly,
As our friend Amy Ivanoff in Columbus says, "you know, back when my life was normal. BEFORE Empty Bowls." Sounds like you are on the right track with molds and textures, etc and its great you know Ann (give her my best). While it would take some up front work, you might try throwing 30 thickish bowls, biscuit firing them and using them as molds to press clay into. Kids can use coils or balls of clay, smoothing them on the inside and allowing the great textures to show on the outside (a great surprise when they are popped out of the molds.) Or you might try throwing 30 bowls (again, a little thick for strength) and turning them upside down when leather hard, adding feet to raise them up a bit, have the kids drape clay over the molds and trim the clay at the rim of the bowl (now elevated by the feet). And finally, get a copy of Finding One's Way with Clay by Paulus Berensohn and do pinch pots. And one other idea, maybe have each kid photographed with a digital camera with
their bowl before firing so they can identify them afterwards. Hope this helps and I can always stand "one more question." Best of luck. John Hartom

primalmommy wrote: I've spent much of the morning in the archives, looking up Empty Bowls
projects, but not finding what I need, exactly.

Last summer when school was out, I temporarily lost my mind and agreed
to spend Sundays in January making 90 bowls with 30 K-12th grade kids at
the Uu church. (What was I thinking?)

Yes, I got the official Empty Bowls stamp and packet.

In the past, I have mass-produced bowls with groups of kids by having
them build (coil, textured slab, multi-colored clay, or whatever) inside
of one of those cardboardish "Chinet" bowls... but once they dry and are
fired, shrinkage makes a pretty small bowl. And plastic is almost all I
can find these days, in ugly shapes at that.

I have a dozen nice roundish plastic cereal bowls, but hate to mess with
fabric, cellophane or spray lube with all those little hands if I can
avoid it.

My plan is to make stamps and roulettes and one set of bowls the first
Sunday... make a set of bowls using the stamps and roulettes on the
second sunday.. and the third sunday, glaze the previous set, and then
make slumped bowls from slabs they have decorated with colored slips
(maybe a hand print stencil, like one I saw in PMI?)

I'd like the bowls to be recognizably individual, since parents will
likely want to buy the ones their kids make...maybe the sig stamp will
serve that purpose. I also would like to work out methods that the
little kids can do wth some success, but the bigger kids or budding
artists can really run with and make something spectacular.

I guess what I am looking for is an idea for a slump/hump mold form that
I can come up with 30 of, inexpensively... or ideas for decorating,
forming, whatever. I hope some of the art teachers on clayart can help
me out!

I also have Ann Tubbs and a few other local potters agreeing to donate a
bowl for a silent auction... any suggestion from veterans on how best to
manage that part?

Our soup event will be the first sunday in February, after church... all
proceeds to local food banks and soup kitchens.

Thanks in advance to anyone with suggestions. Once I get this plan put
together, all I have to do is come up with a syllabus for my next
Potter's Guild class (which starts Wednesday), a syllabus for the class
I'll be teaching at EMU (which starts Saturday) and get my ducks in a
row for the last semester of my MFA program (starts Monday).

Right now I have to go help the kiddies pack, we're off to Atlanta for a
weekend at the zoo and aquarium. It's the last hoorah before our
schedule eats us again.

Yours
Kelly in Ohio... where Santa Claus will liberate me from
slower-than-molasses dial-up internet connection, some time next week!



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John Post on thu 3 jan 08


Hi Kelly,

I use Styrofoam Hefty bowls with my 5th grade students. The kids use
them as slump molds. The great thing about the Hefty bowls is that they
are inexpensive, already made and the Styrofoam releases the bowls when
they are dry.

I show the kids how to texture the rim with bisque stamps. If they
leave a little space between each stamp the bowl gets a nice undulating
rim. I discuss what functional means with the class and tell them that
they are allowed to add as much texture to their bowl as they like. I
caution them that adding texture across the bottom will cause a spoon to
ride across the bowl like speed bumps in a parking lot (My dad has a
friend nicknamed Speedbump).

In your case you could have each kid make two bowls. One that is highly
textured for decorative uses and one that is only textured on the rim
for eating out of. I have the kids write their name on a sticky note
and place it in the bowls while they are drying. The next day you just
lift the bowls out, write the kids name on the bottom with iron oxide
and fire away.

The reason I suggest the Hefty bowls is that you have enough going on in
your life without messing around throwing slump and hump molds for the
kids. These kids probably have limited clay experience and will be
tickled pink just getting to make two bowls.

Every year some of my kids want to make spoons to go with their bowls.
I have a little spoon I got in the Southwest that I show them and we
discuss what makes a good clay utensil. Not many kids make a spoon that
I would want to eat with, but they do come up with some imaginative
creatures to add to the handles.

Some years we do cone 1 majolica, other years we do cone 6 midfire.
This year I am using a variation of Ron and John's cone 6 Majolica on
some student assignments and I really like it.

I added some pics from Tony's blog on the first clay bowl page below
since I showed the kids Tony's blog in class when we discussed what
functional pottery was.

http://www.macomb.k12.mi.us/utica/Schwarzkoff/art-archives/08-art/clay-bowls/clay-bowls.htm
http://www.macomb.k12.mi.us/utica/Schwarzkoff/art-archives/!art-06-07/clay-majolica-bowls/majolica-bowls.htm

John Post
Sterling Heights, Michigan
http://www.johnpost.us
http://www.wemakeart.org