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frontloading kilns versus toploaders

updated tue 8 jan 08

 

Alyssa Ettinger on thu 3 jan 08


am asking for some friends who want to buy a kiln for a small production
section of their business.

what's better? why? (they wanted answer from real ceramists, so i figured
i'd ask you guys instead of telling them what i thought...)
alyssa


www.alyssaettinger.com

William & Susan Schran User on thu 3 jan 08


On 1/3/08 3:53 PM, "Alyssa Ettinger" wrote:

> am asking for some friends who want to buy a kiln for a small production
> section of their business.
>
> what's better? why? (they wanted answer from real ceramists, so i figured
> i'd ask you guys instead of telling them what i thought...)

For a more complete answer, much more information is needed.

What's their budget for the kiln?
Any electrical restrictions (amperage limits)?
What is their production to be?
What temperature?

Bill

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William "Bill" Schran
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wschran@nvcc.edu
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vpitelka on thu 3 jan 08


Alyssa Ettinger wrote:
am asking for some friends who want to buy a kiln for a small production
section of their business.
what's better? why? (they wanted answer from real ceramists, so i figured
i'd ask you guys instead of telling them what i thought...)

Alyssa -
Have your friends looked at the price differential between toploader and
frontloader kilns? Frontloader electric kilns are much easier to load,
especially very large pieces, and they tend to be a lot more versatile. But
frontloaders far more expensive. Toploader electrics created a revolution
in studio clay. The ingenious simplicity of the design allowed them to be
produced very inexpensively. It used to be that only the most serious
amateur and professional ceramicists could buy or build a studio kiln, and
that certainly had some impact on the quality of work out there. Now,
anyone can afford a toploader, and thus the situation currently being
discussed regarding "etsy."

I always prefer frontloaders over toploaders, but as I said, frontloaders
tend to be far more expensive. There are many serious professional potters
using toploader kilns to produce beautiful work. I don't see any reason to
consider a frontloader electric unless there is some specific reason why it
would be better.
- Vince


Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft
Tennessee Tech University
vpitelka@dtccom.net; wpitelka@tntech.edu
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka

Peter Coates on sat 5 jan 08


For bisque firing top loading is better because you can pack a
tighter by stacking in a way you can't with a front loader. For glaze
firing there is an advantage to a front loader as you can fit the
pieces of the puzzle together better.


On Jan 3, 2008, at 2:53 PM, Alyssa Ettinger wrote:

> am asking for some friends who want to buy a kiln for a small
> production
> section of their business.
>
> what's better? why? (they wanted answer from real ceramists, so i
> figured
> i'd ask you guys instead of telling them what i thought...)
> alyssa
>
>
> www.alyssaettinger.com
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Alyssa Ettinger on sun 6 jan 08


thanks everyone, i'm forwarding these along to them.

basically, they have a small vessel, already fired and glazed elsewhere,
that they put lots of decals on. these will be 014 decal firings.

one of these friends is 6'1, i don't she she understood about the bending
over the kiln thing till i explained to her.

and vince, let's not be bashing on etsy!


alyssa
alyssaettinger.com

May Luk on mon 7 jan 08


Hiya Alyssa;

I found loading frontloaders hard on the back. I loaded frontloaders when I was in college and I had one given to me for sharing back in one of my former studios. I always avoided using it. I think I have strong arms, I can do military push up easily. With the frontloader, it is not to do with the arms. I could not keep the heavy shelf steady while I slide it forward - parallel to the floor - at the chest level without hurting my back.

Regards
May
Kings County