gina mars on fri 28 dec 07
Hi All, I have been having an argument with my husband about safety =
issues. My kiln is in my garage as is his bicycle and rollers. He likes =
to ride the bike on the rollers when the kiln is cooling. I see this as =
a problem because of toxic fumes that could be in the air. Also,he wants =
to put a treadmill in my studio where there is dust and even though I =
clean it, I feel it is not the place for exersize equiptment.There are =
glazes and clay scaps in buckets. How can you tell just what the air =
quality is?
Thanks
Gina Mars
www.marspottery.net
50 degrees today and loving it in NY
David Woof on sat 29 dec 07
Gina, it sounds like you have several issues other than "health concerns=
". He is probably safer exercizing in your studio or the garage then on a =
city street, cooling kiln fumes included. But why in hell would anyone att=
empt to invade someone's studio for any reason. I don't allow anyone in m=
ine except by invitation and appointment!!! Even my lover!=20
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If the garage is attached to the house,ventilate the garage so fumes don't =
seep into the house and Kill both of you and get him a gym membership. See=
ms perhaps someone needs to get out more and change focus.
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Of course I base this on a few telling sentences in your post and so I coul=
d be way off so I wish you the best whatever the truth is. Stand firm,David=
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Nan Paget on sat 29 dec 07
>Gina and others, it is almost eight years since my husband,
Fred Paget, was injured in a fall caused by carbon monoxide
poisoning issued from his gas kiln which he was sitting next
to... OUTDOORS! He knew it would create CO but evidently
thought that as it was outside, it would be diluted by ambient
air. However, the tall kiln on his left and a brick wall in front
of him evidently held enough of this heavy gas to affect him.
When he got up to walk to the house, he suddenly fainted
after about 20 feet, fell onto a bush and then a garden bench
with an iron rail, which broke most of the bones in the left
side of his face. He spent two weeks in the hospital, six weeks
with his jaw wired shut eating through a straw, and lost the
sight of his left eye.
Better safe than sorry! Best, Nan Paget
>Hi All, I have been having an argument with my husband about safety =
>issues. My kiln is in my garage as is his bicycle and rollers. He likes =
>to ride the bike on the rollers when the kiln is cooling. I see this as =
>a problem because of toxic fumes that could be in the air. Also,he wants =
>to put a treadmill in my studio where there is dust and even though I =
>clean it, I feel it is not the place for exersize equiptment.There are =
>glazes and clay scaps in buckets. How can you tell just what the air =
>quality is?
>Thanks
>Gina Mars
>www.marspottery.net
>50 degrees today and loving it in NY
>
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Sam or Mary Yancy on sat 29 dec 07
DON'T Chance -I am litterly dying with COPD - each/week/month makes it worse. Dou you want to die wth a oxygen tube in yr mouth - just like being on a least or a pridson.
Nan Paget wrote: >Gina and others, it is almost eight years since my husband,
Fred Paget, was injured in a fall caused by carbon monoxide
poisoning issued from his gas kiln which he was sitting next
to... OUTDOORS! He knew it would create CO but evidently
thought that as it was outside, it would be diluted by ambient
air. However, the tall kiln on his left and a brick wall in front
of him evidently held enough of this heavy gas to affect him.
When he got up to walk to the house, he suddenly fainted
after about 20 feet, fell onto a bush and then a garden bench
with an iron rail, which broke most of the bones in the left
side of his face. He spent two weeks in the hospital, six weeks
with his jaw wired shut eating through a straw, and lost the
sight of his left eye.
Better safe than sorry! Best, Nan Paget
>Hi All, I have been having an argument with my husband about safety =
>issues. My kiln is in my garage as is his bicycle and rollers. He likes =
>to ride the bike on the rollers when the kiln is cooling. I see this as =
>a problem because of toxic fumes that could be in the air. Also,he wants =
>to put a treadmill in my studio where there is dust and even though I =
>clean it, I feel it is not the place for exersize equiptment.There are =
>glazes and clay scaps in buckets. How can you tell just what the air =
>quality is?
>Thanks
>Gina Mars
>www.marspottery.net
>50 degrees today and loving it in NY
>
>______________________________________________________________________________
>Clayart members may send postings to: clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
>You may look at the archives for the list, post messages, or change your
>subscription settings here: http://www.acers.org/cic/clayart/
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>Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at melpots2@visi.com
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Mill Valley, CA, USA
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vpitelka on sat 29 dec 07
Gina Mars wrote:
"Hi All, I have been having an argument with my husband about safety issues.
My kiln is in my garage as is his bicycle and rollers. He likes to ride the
bike on the rollers when the kiln is cooling. I see this as a problem
because of toxic fumes that could be in the air. Also, he wants to put a
treadmill in my studio where there is dust and even though I clean it, I
feel it is not the place for exercise equipment. There are glazes and clay
scraps in buckets. How can you tell just what the air quality is?"
Gina -
There's no danger of toxic stuff in the air when the kiln is cooling, but
don't you have a proper kiln exhaust set up? You certainly should, for
multiple reasons, including the fact that kiln firings, especially
bisque-firings, produce very corrosive sulfur dioxide gas that will cause
metal surfaces to corrode in your garage. The standard downdraft kiln
exhaust systems that fasten to the lower side or bottom of your kiln are not
expensive, and it is very easy to vent them through the wall or through a
window. No one should be operating a kiln indoors without one.
It is not a good idea to conduct vigorous cardiovascular exercise in a clay
studio for the simple reason that it can raise dust that has settled on
surfaces, and because there is always going to be some ultra-miniscule
fraction of dust in the air, and unnecessarily accelerating the filtering
action of your lungs in such a situation isn't a good idea.
Of course you want to minimize creation and accumulation of dust in your
studio as much as possible, but a little bit of dust is pretty much an
inevitable consequence of clay work. Buckets of scrap or dry glaze around
the studio are not the problem, because that's not going to end up in the
air until you agitate the material somehow. For his own good health, your
husband should not have his bike rollers or treadmill in the garage.
Hope that information helps settle the argument.
- Vince
Vince Pitelka
Appalachian Center for Craft
Tennessee Tech University
vpitelka@dtccom.net; wpitelka@tntech.edu
http://iweb.tntech.edu/wpitelka
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