Robert Briggs on fri 21 dec 07
Hi Tim,
For a little over a year now I've been broadcasting a live 24/7 pottery
cam through 'camstreams' - Whenever I set my kilns going, I put a small
webcam on the digital controller so I can monitor the firing through my
laptop upstairs. This way I don't have to run downstairs constantly to
check on them...been there...done that. :-) You can check out my
pottery cam @
www.corvusmoon.com
Robert
Langholz Pottery wrote:
> My shop is 12 miles from my home and I'm always concerned about how my
> kilns are doing.
> Yesterday I completed a kiln cam project where I have a usb cam
> fixed on each of the digital readouts of my 2 kilnmaster controllers.
> Check it out at http://www.langholzpottery.com
> If anyone wants some advice on this project, drop me a note.
>
> TIm
>
>
> Timothy Langholz
> 2351 360th St.
> Decorah, Iowa 52101
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Langholz Pottery on fri 21 dec 07
My shop is 12 miles from my home and I'm always concerned about how =20
my kilns are doing.
Yesterday I completed a kiln cam project where I have a usb cam =20
fixed on each of the digital readouts of my 2 kilnmaster controllers.
Check it out at http://www.langholzpottery.com
If anyone wants some advice on this project, drop me a note.
TIm
Timothy Langholz
2351 360th St.
Decorah, Iowa 52101
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LangholzPottery.com
Timothy Langholz on sat 22 dec 07
I've had some questions about the kiln cam setup..and so I will elaborate a bit.
I'm using mac's so this info may be more suited to other mac users.
I'm using a program called evocam (from the evoligical.com website). This program can take
multiple webcams and group them into 1 window, including titles, clocks, date, etc. It also has an
included server which hosts the webcams, and can upload the live streaming video to a website.
I've come to a somewhat convoluted solution using multiple USB cams (which have a limited
useable cord length) The USB cams ended up being a xbox live cam (from super-wallyworld,
cheaper on ebay). It seems like a range of macs are useable, but the new the better.
It seems like the best solution is the newer network cams, (evocam support suggests BL-C20A
wireless made by panasonic) These cams have their own IP address, so the evocam program is not
needed, nor is a designated computer, just access to the internet, with a static IP address. This
network cam will need a power source.
It seems like the finer points are that you'll want a static IP address. (mine didn't cost any more
money, just a different modem). And if your service is from behind a router, you'll need to
explore the world of configuring your router, to activate port forwarding. When a request is made
of your cam, that info will need to get back out of the route to the machine that has made the
request. For me it was a little more, than I was imagining but, doable.
Tim
Nathan Gartz on sun 23 dec 07
Yikes Tim!
I'm running a mac and I never even thought of such a complex solution. Ok,
I did think of something like that, but not that crazy. My dragon is about
to hatch (Skutt 1227 shipping this week) and I debated all the possibilities
of remote viewing. I thought of the basic camcorder that I could buy on
ebay, then the webcam, then a computer to stream the video, etc. However, I
came to the conclusion that KISS would be a much better solution. The
studio is about 10 blocks away from where I live and I hate to be lazy and
drive a measly 10 blocks, but I'd also hate to walk it in the bitter cold 10
degree weather we have here in Wisconsin with 36mph gusts of wind (as my
house sways with the wind). With KISS, and Remote Desktop, I can hook my
kiln up to the computer (unfortunately they have yet to come out with a Mac
version) running Windoze. Then from my Mac at home, I can remote into the
computer using VMware's Fusion (like Virtual PC but so much better!). I
hate to have to run M$'s software when I don't have to, so maybe I'll just
re-write the KISS software in my free time (so it sounds like that'll never
get done). KISS will give me so much more info than just the temp. I have
Zone Control on my 1227 so it'll show me all 3 s-types and what they read
along with all the other great info KISS gives you.
I know this might not be applicable to everyone because I don't believe KISS
works on all kilns (not sure about gas kilns in particular), but I thought
I'd throw it out there. In any case, I do like your concept, but for the
money and time you are going to spend ($180 for each BL-C20A cam, countless
hours configuring your router if you have a linksys or netgear (2 minutes if
you have a airport extreme), and the time to get everything working JUST
right, etc....) I'd say KISS is a better bag for your buck (if you have
electrics). Especially if you are only a staircase away like in Robert's case!
Nathan Gartz
web: nathangartz.com
>I've had some questions about the kiln cam setup..and so I will elaborate a
>bit.
>
>I'm using mac's so this info may be more suited to other mac users. I'm
>using a program called evocam (from the evoligical.com website). This
>program can take multiple webcams and group them into 1 window, including
>titles, clocks, date, etc. It also has an included server which hosts the
>webcams, and can upload the live streaming video to a website.
>
>I've come to a somewhat convoluted solution using multiple USB cams (which
>have a limited useable cord length) The USB cams ended up being a xbox live
>cam (from super-wallyworld, cheaper on ebay). It seems like a range of macs
>are useable, but the new the better.
>
>It seems like the best solution is the newer network cams, (evocam support
>suggests BL-C20A wireless made by panasonic) These cams have their own IP
>address, so the evocam program is not needed, nor is a designated computer,
>just access to the internet, with a static IP address. This network cam
>will need a power source.
>
>It seems like the finer points are that you'll want a static IP address.
>(mine didn't cost any more money, just a different modem). And if your
>service is from behind a router, you'll need to explore the world of
>configuring your router, to activate port forwarding. When a request is
>made of your cam, that info will need to get back out of the route to the
>machine that has made the request. For me it was a little more, than I was
>imagining but, doable.
>
>Tim
Arnold Howard on wed 26 dec 07
From: "Langholz Pottery"
Yesterday I completed a kiln cam project where I have a usb
cam
fixed on each of the digital readouts of my 2 kilnmaster
controllers.
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It is possible for the kiln to over-fire even though the
thermocouple readouts appear to be normal. A remote computer
display would not be able to catch that type of error.
Sincerely,
Arnold Howard
Paragon Industries, L.P., Mesquite, Texas USA
ahoward@paragonweb.com / www.paragonweb.com
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