Marcia Selsor on sat 5 jan 08
That would explain a lot. The surface from the internet images
suggested raku.
Thanks for explaining that. I admire her work very much.
I always wondered if it was raku, how did she do the winter-proofing.
marcia
On Jan 5, 2008, at 7:45 PM, Diane Palmquist wrote:
> I did a one day workshop with Elizabeth and she demonstrated her
> process of applying powdered oxides to her tiles. She then fires in an
> electric kiln to cone 6 and sometimes cone 10. I am not aware of
> her doing
> any Raku on her tiles. She has a display of the in Hartford,Ct on
> Asylum
> Street and they are beautiful. They look like the sky with clouds.
> She said
> that they are not coated with anything as a finish or sealer.
> Diane
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marcia Selsor"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 5:54 PM
> Subject: Re: Outdoor sculpture -- raku?
>
>
>> Elizabeth MacDonald has done raku tiles up the side of a high rise
>> building.
>> She is from Conn.
>> I agree that the open body for raku would impede survival in cold/
>> freezing climates.
>> The freeze thaw tests won't help with an open raku body. Maybe she is
>> sealing it prior to installation. I don't know. But Elizabeth has
>> done it.
>>
>>
>> Marcia Selsor
>> http://marciaselsor.com
>>
>> Marcia Selsor
http://marciaselsor.com
Martha Rogala on sat 5 jan 08
I teach high school ceramics and we're in the process of creating a
sculpture court. I'm working with the sculpture teacher on a combined
bronze/ceramic sculpture and we thought that raku would be beautiful with
the bronze. Unfortunately, the raku that I've done doesn't hold up well
to our winters here (near Buffalo, NY). Does anyone know a way to seal
raku so that it will be durable enough to handle our freeze/thaw issues
here? ...or is there any other way that anyone can think of to get this to
work?
Mike Gordon on sat 5 jan 08
Martha,
Anything that low in firing temp runs the risk of absorbing water and
when it freezes ...... parts may pop off. I don't know of anything that
you can seal it with to permanently seal the surface. I live in
California where it rarely freezes so I don't worry about it. I have
low fire sculpture out side with glaze on them with no problems, but
birdbaths that hold water have problems with water absorption. They
degrade slowly even from the frost we get here. Mike Gordon
On Jan 5, 2008, at 6:13 AM, Martha Rogala wrote:
> I teach high school ceramics and we're in the process of creating a
> sculpture court. I'm working with the sculpture teacher on a combined
> bronze/ceramic sculpture and we thought that raku would be beautiful
> with
> the bronze. Unfortunately, the raku that I've done doesn't hold up
> well
> to our winters here (near Buffalo, NY). Does anyone know a way to seal
> raku so that it will be durable enough to handle our freeze/thaw issues
> here? ...or is there any other way that anyone can think of to get
> this to
> work?
>
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Marcia Selsor on sat 5 jan 08
Elizabeth MacDonald has done raku tiles up the side of a high rise
building.
She is from Conn.
I agree that the open body for raku would impede survival in cold/
freezing climates.
The freeze thaw tests won't help with an open raku body. Maybe she is
sealing it prior to installation. I don't know. But Elizabeth has
done it.
Marcia Selsor
http://marciaselsor.com
Diane Palmquist on sat 5 jan 08
I did a one day workshop with Elizabeth and she demonstrated her
process of applying powdered oxides to her tiles. She then fires in an
electric kiln to cone 6 and sometimes cone 10. I am not aware of her doing
any Raku on her tiles. She has a display of the in Hartford,Ct on Asylum
Street and they are beautiful. They look like the sky with clouds. She said
that they are not coated with anything as a finish or sealer.
Diane
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marcia Selsor"
To:
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: Outdoor sculpture -- raku?
> Elizabeth MacDonald has done raku tiles up the side of a high rise
> building.
> She is from Conn.
> I agree that the open body for raku would impede survival in cold/
> freezing climates.
> The freeze thaw tests won't help with an open raku body. Maybe she is
> sealing it prior to installation. I don't know. But Elizabeth has
> done it.
>
>
> Marcia Selsor
> http://marciaselsor.com
>
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Diane Palmquist on sat 5 jan 08
Sorry I did want to also add go to go her website any enjoy her
wonderful work. www.elizabethmacdonald.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marcia Selsor"
To:
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: Outdoor sculpture -- raku?
> Elizabeth MacDonald has done raku tiles up the side of a high rise
> building.
> She is from Conn.
> I agree that the open body for raku would impede survival in cold/
> freezing climates.
> The freeze thaw tests won't help with an open raku body. Maybe she is
> sealing it prior to installation. I don't know. But Elizabeth has
> done it.
>
>
> Marcia Selsor
> http://marciaselsor.com
>
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Martha Rogala on sat 5 jan 08
Thank you so much for that information. I'll look into it. We're writing
a pretty extensive grant to get the funding for this project and I don't
want anything to happen to the installation -- especially since this will
hopefully be the first of many pieces going into our new sculpture court.
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 16:54:03 -0600, Marcia Selsor wrote:
>Elizabeth MacDonald has done raku tiles up the side of a high rise
>building.
>She is from Conn.
>I agree that the open body for raku would impede survival in cold/
>freezing climates.
>The freeze thaw tests won't help with an open raku body. Maybe she is
>sealing it prior to installation. I don't know. But Elizabeth has
>done it.
>
>
>Marcia Selsor
>http://marciaselsor.com
>
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Maggie Jones on sun 6 jan 08
Don't recall who asked this originally but I came across this link and
thought about that outdoor sculpture question:
http://www.paperclayart.com/158mix.html
This may be a solution, scroll to the bottom for a cone 1 outdoor
withstands freezing recipe. lots of info on the site.
How much time do you have to test?....freezing out there now?
best,
Maggie
http://TurtleIslandPottery.com
Maggie and Freeman Jones
http://MaggieJones.etsy.com
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On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 21:06:34 -0500 Diane Palmquist
writes:
> Sorry I did want to also add go to go her website any enjoy her
> wonderful work. www.elizabethmacdonald.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marcia Selsor"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 5:54 PM
> Subject: Re: Outdoor sculpture -- raku?
>
>
> > Elizabeth MacDonald has done raku tiles up the side of a high
> rise
> > building.
> > She is from Conn.
> > I agree that the open body for raku would impede survival in
> cold/
> > freezing climates.
> > The freeze thaw tests won't help with an open raku body. Maybe she
> is
> > sealing it prior to installation. I don't know. But Elizabeth has
> > done it.
> >
> >
> > Marcia Selsor
> > http://marciaselsor.com
> >
> >
>
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Martha Rogala on sun 6 jan 08
Thank you Maggie. I definitely have time to test. We won't be doing the
school raku firing until the spring. We have a couple of days of warm
temperatures coming up (we may actually break a record Tuesday -- close to
60) but then it's back to our freezing winter norms with lots of freezing
temps.
I haven't used paper clay before but I thought that I read somewhere that
it may not be good for outdoor sculpture in cold climates because as the
paper burns out, it's replaced with air. Is the secret firing to Cone 1
to make it more vitreous?
On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 17:43:49 -0500, Maggie Jones wrote:
>Don't recall who asked this originally but I came across this link and
>thought about that outdoor sculpture question:
>http://www.paperclayart.com/158mix.html
>This may be a solution, scroll to the bottom for a cone 1 outdoor
>withstands freezing recipe. lots of info on the site.
>How much time do you have to test?....freezing out there now?
>best,
>Maggie
>
>
>http://TurtleIslandPottery.com
>Maggie and Freeman Jones
>http://MaggieJones.etsy.com
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 21:06:34 -0500 Diane Palmquist
>writes:
>> Sorry I did want to also add go to go her website any enjoy her
>> wonderful work. www.elizabethmacdonald.com
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Marcia Selsor"
>> To:
>> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 5:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: Outdoor sculpture -- raku?
>>
>>
>> > Elizabeth MacDonald has done raku tiles up the side of a high
>> rise
>> > building.
>> > She is from Conn.
>> > I agree that the open body for raku would impede survival in
>> cold/
>> > freezing climates.
>> > The freeze thaw tests won't help with an open raku body. Maybe she
>> is
>> > sealing it prior to installation. I don't know. But Elizabeth has
>> > done it.
>> >
>> >
>> > Marcia Selsor
>> > http://marciaselsor.com
>> >
>> >
>>
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Maggie Jones on mon 7 jan 08
I would say in looking at that recipe the feldspar and wollastanite help
to make it vitreous at cone 1 so, yes.... check shrinkage rates esp. if
you are doing tiles or sectional pieces.
good luck and let us know how it comes out, great project for the school.
M
On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 19:53:40 -0500 Martha Rogala
writes:
> Thank you Maggie. I definitely have time to test. We won't be doing
> the
> school raku firing until the spring. We have a couple of days of
> warm
> temperatures coming up (we may actually break a record Tuesday --
> close to
> 60) but then it's back to our freezing winter norms with lots of
> freezing
> temps.
>
> I haven't used paper clay before but I thought that I read somewhere
> that
> it may not be good for outdoor sculpture in cold climates because as
> the
> paper burns out, it's replaced with air. Is the secret firing to
> Cone 1
> to make it more vitreous?
>
>
>
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 17:43:49 -0500, Maggie Jones
> wrote:
>
> >Don't recall who asked this originally but I came across this link
> and
> >thought about that outdoor sculpture question:
> >http://www.paperclayart.com/158mix.html
> >This may be a solution, scroll to the bottom for a cone 1 outdoor
> >withstands freezing recipe. lots of info on the site.
> >How much time do you have to test?....freezing out there now?
> >best,
> >Maggie
> >
> >
> >http://TurtleIslandPottery.com
> >Maggie and Freeman Jones
> >http://MaggieJones.etsy.com
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 21:06:34 -0500 Diane Palmquist
>
> >writes:
> >> Sorry I did want to also add go to go her website any enjoy
> her
> >> wonderful work. www.elizabethmacdonald.com
> >
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Marcia Selsor"
> >> To:
> >> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 5:54 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Outdoor sculpture -- raku?
> >>
> >>
> >> > Elizabeth MacDonald has done raku tiles up the side of a high
> >> rise
> >> > building.
> >> > She is from Conn.
> >> > I agree that the open body for raku would impede survival in
> >> cold/
> >> > freezing climates.
> >> > The freeze thaw tests won't help with an open raku body. Maybe
> she
> >> is
> >> > sealing it prior to installation. I don't know. But Elizabeth
> has
> >> > done it.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Marcia Selsor
> >> > http://marciaselsor.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
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Lee Love on mon 7 jan 08
A friend of mine at NCC has made several fountains on commission
both in the USA and Japan. At the advice of Continental Clay, she
fired their terrcotta earthenware to cone 1 and it was vitreous.
If you want a raku effect, you can take higher fired ware
out of the kiln and put it in reduction materials.
--
Lee in Mashiko, Japan
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"Men are born ignorant, not stupid. They are made stupid by
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