MEL JACOBSON on sat 12 jan 08
if anyone can give folks a hand with a
way to make the axner system work, or
has plans for a good strong arm.
send them to me.
i will post them on my clayart website.
i am sure michael wendt has a good
system in his mind already.
he has a great plate making system.
he calls it...rim/restanding.
slick as can be.
let's get after this issue.
get it solved, once and for all.
mel
Lois Ruben Aronow on sat 12 jan 08
A wheel bidet?!
>
> What is that funny little blue and white gizmo with the
> orange tip that sticks out over the plate being made in the
> video clip?
> What does it do?
>
>
> John, it is an adjustable gooseneck
> that delivers the water directly to
> the wheel head during throwing
> thanks to a Little Giant swamp
> cooler pump.
> Regards,
>
Charlie Hightower on sat 12 jan 08
I believe there are plans in the Harry Davis book. I
will dig it out and double check.
Charles Hightower
www.hightowerpottery.com
Evansville, IN
--- MEL JACOBSON wrote:
> if anyone can give folks a hand with a
> way to make the axner system work, or
> has plans for a good strong arm.
> send them to me.
> i will post them on my clayart website.
>
> i am sure michael wendt has a good
> system in his mind already.
>
> he has a great plate making system.
> he calls it...rim/restanding.
> slick as can be.
>
> let's get after this issue.
> get it solved, once and for all.
> mel
>
>
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Michael Wendt on sat 12 jan 08
Mel,
I think we are approaching this
idea backward.
Make plaster bats with the foot
rings cut in.
Make as many bats as you plan to
throw plates in a session.
Fill the rings with clay quickly.
Rod the face and restand the rim.
No trimming of the foot except
for the transition.
This makes one bat set be capable of
making an endless variety of plates
due to the throwers skill.
Learning rod and restand takes
about 1-2 hours of concerted effort.
I have first time students throw with
it. They don't know any better so
for them it is an easy technique to
learn.
See a clip:
http://www.wendtpottery.com/workshop.htm
The steel block you see in the
front of the wheel is a jigger
post. I found jiggering to be
very restrictive since you can
only make the shape of the
mold, like casting.
The purple gooseneck on top
pf the post is part of the recirculating
water pump that makes this method
so fast. your hands almost never
leave the clay during forming which
takes 1 1/2- 2 minutes from start to
finish. Plenty fast for a $20 item.
If you choose to try the plaster bat idea,
to work, the foot will require
a pitch sufficient to lift the plate
out of the plaster bat as it shrinks like this:
______ ___________ ______
\_/ \_/
The inside foot rim pitch would need to be
shallower than illustrated here.
Why jigger when rod and restand is
so much faster for someone who already
knows how to throw.
Jiggering is meant for low initial
skill workers. As the jigger operator
becomes more proficient, his rate
goes up and he can kick out huge
amounts of work, all pretty much
identical but is that all that
we want?
I like to throw.
Rod and restand is throwing simplified.
Regards,
Michael Wendt
Wendt Pottery
2729 Clearwater Ave.
Lewiston, Id 83501
U.S.A.
208-746-3724
wendtpot@lewiston.com
http://www.wendtpottery.com
http://UniquePorcelainDesigns.com
Mel wrote:
if anyone can give folks a hand with a
way to make the axner system work, or
has plans for a good strong arm.
send them to me.
i will post them on my clayart website.
i am sure michael wendt has a good
system in his mind already.
he has a great plate making system.
he calls it...rim/restanding.
slick as can be.
let's get after this issue.
get it solved, once and for all.
mel
John Rodgers on sat 12 jan 08
Michael,
What is that funny little blue and white gizmo with the orange tip that
sticks out over the plate being made in the video clip? What does it do?
Thanks,
Regards,
John Rodgers
Chelsea, AL
Michael Wendt wrote:
> Mel,
> I think we are approaching this
> idea backward.
> Make plaster bats with the foot
> rings cut in.
> Make as many bats as you plan to
> throw plates in a session.
> Fill the rings with clay quickly.
> Rod the face and restand the rim.
> No trimming of the foot except
> for the transition.
> This makes one bat set be capable of
> making an endless variety of plates
> due to the throwers skill.
> Learning rod and restand takes
> about 1-2 hours of concerted effort.
> I have first time students throw with
> it. They don't know any better so
> for them it is an easy technique to
> learn.
> See a clip:
> http://www.wendtpottery.com/workshop.htm
> The steel block you see in the
> front of the wheel is a jigger
> post. I found jiggering to be
> very restrictive since you can
> only make the shape of the
> mold, like casting.
> The purple gooseneck on top
> pf the post is part of the recirculating
> water pump that makes this method
> so fast. your hands almost never
> leave the clay during forming which
> takes 1 1/2- 2 minutes from start to
> finish. Plenty fast for a $20 item.
> If you choose to try the plaster bat idea,
> to work, the foot will require
> a pitch sufficient to lift the plate
> out of the plaster bat as it shrinks like this:
>
> ______ ___________ ______
> \_/ \_/
>
> The inside foot rim pitch would need to be
> shallower than illustrated here.
> Why jigger when rod and restand is
> so much faster for someone who already
> knows how to throw.
> Jiggering is meant for low initial
> skill workers. As the jigger operator
> becomes more proficient, his rate
> goes up and he can kick out huge
> amounts of work, all pretty much
> identical but is that all that
> we want?
> I like to throw.
> Rod and restand is throwing simplified.
> Regards,
> Michael Wendt
> Wendt Pottery
> 2729 Clearwater Ave.
> Lewiston, Id 83501
> U.S.A.
> 208-746-3724
> wendtpot@lewiston.com
> http://www.wendtpottery.com
> http://UniquePorcelainDesigns.com
> Mel wrote:
> if anyone can give folks a hand with a
> way to make the axner system work, or
> has plans for a good strong arm.
> send them to me.
> i will post them on my clayart website.
>
> i am sure michael wendt has a good
> system in his mind already.
>
> he has a great plate making system.
> he calls it...rim/restanding.
> slick as can be.
>
> let's get after this issue.
> get it solved, once and for all.
> mel
>
> ______________________________________________________________________________
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>
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>
>
>
John Rodgers on sun 13 jan 08
Michael,
Now that is about the handiest little thing I believe I ever saw. I just
gotta have me one.
What is the source of the gooseneck? Did it come with the pump, or its
it off an oil can or something?
Thanks,
john
Michael Wendt wrote:
> John, it is an adjustable gooseneck
> that delivers the water directly to
> the wheel head during throwing
> thanks to a Little Giant swamp
> cooler pump.
> Regards,
>
>
=?iso-8859-1?Q?Tig_Dupr=E9?= on sun 13 jan 08
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i am sure michael wendt has a good
system in his mind already.
=20
he has a great plate making system.
he calls it...rim/restanding.
slick as can be.
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I have used Michael's rod/restand method,
and it works like a charm for getting
plates, bowls, and mug forms with a=20
constant thickness. For feet, though,
I use David Hendley's method of extruding
a footring and applying it to the
bottom. The problem is that I'm not
very good at it, and have not yet=20
figured out a way to make a template
so the feet wind up in the same place
every time.
That's why I'm interested in a jigger
method for my home-based wheel, jammed
in a corner of a converted garage. It
needs to either fit my Thomas Stuart
wheel, or stand alone on the ground
so I can swing it up and out of the way
when I'm not using it. I designed a
few machines to do this, but they
proved to be far too expensive to
manufacture, and I didn't like the
commercial jigger/jolley machines
made for factory use.
If John or anyone else can come up
with a good design that even a semi-
klutz like me can build, or is
in the price range for purchase, I'm
all for it! Sign me up!
Then I could get the Slump/Hump molds,
make several sets of plate designs,
knock out a wall and build on the side=20
of the house...
Thanks,
Tig Dupre
in Port Orchard, Washington, USA
Michael Wendt on sun 13 jan 08
John,
Go to
http://www.use-enco.com
it is used on metal working
equipment for coolant
during machining.
Google Little Giant
evaporative cooler pumps.
I used an on-off switch
to have water when I need it.
Regards,
Michael Wendt
Wendt Pottery
2729 Clearwater Ave.
Lewiston, Id 83501
U.S.A.
208-746-3724
wendtpot@lewiston.com
http://www.wendtpottery.com
http://UniquePorcelainDesigns.com
John wrote:
Michael,
Now that is about the handiest little thing I believe I
ever saw. I just
gotta have me one.
What is the source of the gooseneck? Did it come with
the pump, or its
it off an oil can or something?
Thanks,
john
Michael Wendt on sun 13 jan 08
John asked:
Michael,
What is that funny little blue and white gizmo with the
orange tip that
sticks out over the plate being made in the video clip?
What does it do?
Thanks,
Regards,
John Rodgers
Chelsea, AL
John, it is an adjustable gooseneck
that delivers the water directly to
the wheel head during throwing
thanks to a Little Giant swamp
cooler pump.
Regards,
Michael Wendt
Wendt Pottery
2729 Clearwater Ave.
Lewiston, Id 83501
U.S.A.
208-746-3724
wendtpot@lewiston.com
http://www.wendtpottery.com
http://UniquePorcelainDesigns.com
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