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ups/fedex again...

updated tue 22 jan 08

 

John Sankey on fri 18 jan 08


I got a knock at the door late yesterday afternoon - a UPS
driver. "$60 collect please." $30 to cross the border, $20 COD
fee, sales taxes on both, plus a few dollars federal sales tax on
the contents. It turned out that Georgies' shipping bloke had
decided to send my special glaze supplies by UPS despite
instructions to send by post office :-(

Well, Georgies has proven they are a good firm to deal with.
A toll-free phone call elicited a prompt apology, instruction to
refuse the UPS delivery, and a promise that my shipment will be
sent out again immediately by post office without waiting for
return of the UPS package.

I don't know why UPS and FedEx have decided to derail free trade
between our countries, but it bears repeating: the price of
freedom is eternal vigilance. We have to refuse to deal with
either firm until they shape up and accept our free trade
treaties.

Meanwhile, the tests will be delayed a bit.

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Jennifer Boyer on fri 18 jan 08


Can you elaborate on this free trade issue? UPS and Fedex ships from
US to CA in a way that's different than USPS and involves extra charges?
Please explain in more detail.
Thanks
Jennifer
On Jan 18, 2008, at 6:55 AM, John Sankey wrote:

> I got a knock at the door late yesterday afternoon - a UPS
> driver. "$60 collect please." $30 to cross the border, $20 COD
> fee, sales taxes on both, plus a few dollars federal sales tax on
> the contents. It turned out that Georgies' shipping bloke had
> decided to send my special glaze supplies by UPS despite
> instructions to send by post office :-(
>
> Well, Georgies has proven they are a good firm to deal with.
> A toll-free phone call elicited a prompt apology, instruction to
> refuse the UPS delivery, and a promise that my shipment will be
> sent out again immediately by post office without waiting for
> return of the UPS package.
>
> I don't know why UPS and FedEx have decided to derail free trade
> between our countries, but it bears repeating: the price of
> freedom is eternal vigilance. We have to refuse to deal with
> either firm until they shape up and accept our free trade
> treaties.
>
> Meanwhile, the tests will be delayed a bit.
>
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Don Goodrich on sun 20 jan 08


Yikes! With those kinds of prices, the US$23 that the Post Office charges
for a flat rate Priority Mail box from the United States to Canada or
Mexico looks like a bargain. It's a mystery to me why vendors insist on
using UPS or Fedex with rates like these.

Cheers,
Don Goodrich


On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 06:55:29 -0500, John Sankey wrote,
among other things:

>I got a knock at the door late yesterday afternoon - a UPS
>driver. "$60 collect please." $30 to cross the border, $20 COD
>fee, sales taxes on both, plus a few dollars federal sales tax on
>the contents.

Anne Doyle on sun 20 jan 08


I refuse to do cross-border business with UPS, i don't care how good the
deal is... the charged me $45 of brokerage fees and extra charges when i
bought my GG... they hold your parcel hostage & if you refuse to pay, you
don't get it... These charges are over and above the regular shipping
charges and have nothing to do with the shipping, they are their fee for
filling in the customs form for the parcel, they call them brokerage
fees...

they tell you one thing when you call for info on amounts, and there's a
totally outrageous discord between the charges as told on the phone or
viewed on their site and what the actual cost is once at the door. Case in
point, bought in 2005 a kitchenaid mixer, from the US, paid $50 for
shipping. The dealer sent it UPS, so UPS wanted $55 for the brokerage fees
for IMPORTING it for me once they brought it to my door, plus all kinds of
taxes on the charges... So, what i saved buying it from the US, i lost to
UPS...

Will never get stung again... done, they are hurting cross-border sales
and the economy will just be better for it on this side of the border
cause i know lots of ppl who refuse to deal with them...

USPS works just fine and businesses that won't mail to me won't sell to
me...

Anne, in Saint-Sauveur, QC, getting ready for a fierce cold snap...

annied01ca on sun 20 jan 08


I refuse to do cross-border business with UPS, i don't care how good
the deal is... the charged me $45 of brokerage fees and extra charges
when i bought my GG... they hold your parcel if you refuse to pay, you
don't get it... they tell you one thing when you call for info on
amounts, and there's a totally outrageous discord between the charges
as told on the phone or viewed on their site and what the actual cost
is once at the door. Case in point, bought in 2005 a kitchenaid mixer,
from the US, paid $50 for shipping. The dealer sent it UPS, so UPS
wanted $55 for the brokerage fees for IMPORTING it for me once they
brought it to my door, plus all kinds of taxes on the charges... So,
what i saved buying it from the US, i lost to UPS...

Will never get stung again... done,

USPS works just fine and businesses that won't mail to me won't sell to
me...

Anne, in Saint-Sauveur, QC

-- In clayart@yahoogroups.com, Jennifer Boyer wrote:
>
> Can you elaborate on this free trade issue? UPS and Fedex ships from
> US to CA in a way that's different than USPS and involves extra
charges?
> Please explain in more detail.
> Thanks
> Jennifer
> On Jan 18, 2008, at 6:55 AM, John Sankey wrote:
>

John Sankey on mon 21 jan 08


"the US$23 that the Post Office charges for a flat rate Priority
Mail box from the United States to Canada or Mexico looks like a
bargain."

There are USPS flat rate international packets for as low as $8.
All the book sellers know about them. They work fine for
unbreakable items, but you'd need more padding for pottery.

"It's a mystery to me why vendors insist on using UPS or Fedex
with rates like these."

UPS usually charges the sender a buck less than USPS within the
48 states as a loss leader. And, they offer pickup service, which
makes them more expensive but also more convenient to sellers who
don't pay attention to their customers' bottom lines.

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Stuart & Kathryn Fields on mon 21 jan 08


Just a note. You are probably correct that UPS/FedEx are the problem, =
but... We ship/mail both boxed materials and periodicals between the US =
and Canada all the time and have found the Canadian customs folks to be =
a real hazard. They may have added a cost which the shipping companies =
cannot absorb.=20

In fact last May when the USPS redesigned (badly of course) the =
international mailing system, they did away with all bulk mailing =
categories because of this problem. That is why the only category =
currently available for mailing periodicals internationally is AIRMAIL =
-- at least double the cost. Better stop here because I can feel my =
angry soap box emerging and you don't want to here it.

Kathy Fields -- Joyce's Helo Kathy
sfkf@iwvisp.com
www.experimentalhelo.com