Lynn Goodman Porcelain Pottery on mon 21 jan 08
>
> Wait a sec! Peter Lane stated in his book, Contemporary Studio
> Porcelain
> found here:
> http://books.google.com/books?
> id=XTvrTcCzPbgC&pg=PA27&lpg=PA27&dq=super+standard
> +porcelain&source=web&ots=5lEyWEHauQ&sig=W5sIUh8aIFwiT0aPEMhLVX5V8Uo
>
> that Super Standard Porcelain is a clay body. Anyone use it as a
> claybody?
Well, no... the recipe calls it a china clay, and calls for it to be
50% of the recipe. "Super Standard Porcelain" is the brand name of
the china clay, just like "Grolleg" is a name of a china clay. The
claybody is the entire recipe.
Lynn
Lynn Goodman
Fine Porcelain Pottery
Cell 347-526-9805
www.lynngoodmanporcelain.com
Craig Martell on mon 21 jan 08
At 07:30 PM 1/21/2008 -0500, you wrote:
>Wait a sec! Peter Lane stated in his book, Contemporary Studio Porcelain
>found here: that Super Standard Porcelain is a clay body. Anyone use it
>as a claybody?
Hello Again Nathan:
Well, of course there may very well be a claybody, or claybodies, called
Super Standard. Probably the same thing as calling a body that used
Grolleg Kaolin, Grolleg Porcelain. I've never seen this in print or heard
anyone say they used a body called Super Standard Porcelain but that's not
surprising. I don't get out all that much being a full time potter.
I use Super Standard in a porcelain body that I make. It's a very white,
plastic, fine grained kaolin with a very high modulus of rupture for a
kaolin. That means it gives a body significant green strength. The
downside is that it's tripled in price in the last two years. I think a
pallet is about $1500 bucks now if not more. You might wanna try Grolleg
or perhaps some US kaolins. They aren't as white but some have even better
plasticity and workability than Super.
That's my take anyway.
regards, Craig Martell Hopewell, Oregon
John Britt on mon 21 jan 08
Nathan,
Here you go:
www.hamgil.com/assets/documents/msds_supstdporcelainclay.pdf -
John Britt
www.johnbrittpottery.com
Nathan Gartz on mon 21 jan 08
Anyone out there know where I can get my hands on some Super Standard
Porcelain? I can't find it at any of the providers I normally order clay
through and a google search only gave me a few hits. One of the hits being
a book, Contemporary Studio Porcelain, By Peter Lane.
If it's no longer available, I suppose I could have someone make it for me
since Peter Lane published the recipe.
I'm looking at picking up a pugger/mixer to mix my own clay, but I'm not all
that keen on some of these ingredients.
China Clay - 50
Westone H - 5
FFF Feldspar - 27
Quartz - 17
Whiting - 1
Apparently the Westone H is sodium activated white Texas bentonite. Would
any bentonite work here, or do I have to get Westone H? How about the
Feldspar. Is it absolutely necessary that I use FFF or is there something
that will substitute nicely without modifying the chemical makeup too much?
Thanks ahead of time!
Nathan Gartz
email: nathan.gartz (AT) gmail.com
web:nathangartz.com
Craig Martell on mon 21 jan 08
Nathan asked:
>Anyone out there know where I can get my hands on some Super Standard
>Porcelain?
>If it's no longer available, I suppose I could have someone make it for me
>since Peter Lane published the recipe.
Hello Nathan:
Super Standard Porcelain isn't a claybody. It's a type of Primary Kaolin
mined and processed by ECC in Cornwall UK. ECC is actually owned by
Imerys, a large French mineral company.
Super Standard has been imported by Hammill and Gillespie in New Jersey you
might try them. They have a website and you can Google them to get it. I
got a pallet of Super Standard from Laguna Clay in Byesville, Ohio a couple
of summers ago. So you could try Laguna too.
regards, Craig Martell Hopewell, Oregon
Ron Roy on mon 21 jan 08
Hi Nathan,
We did some testing at Tuckers - tried all the bentonites - could not see
any differece in the colour - maybe if you want it real white - you will
just have to test - there are other plastisizers out there as well.
Others on this list will know.
RR
>Anyone out there know where I can get my hands on some Super Standard
>Porcelain? I can't find it at any of the providers I normally order clay
>through and a google search only gave me a few hits. One of the hits being
>a book, Contemporary Studio Porcelain, By Peter Lane.
>
>If it's no longer available, I suppose I could have someone make it for me
>since Peter Lane published the recipe.
>
>
>I'm looking at picking up a pugger/mixer to mix my own clay, but I'm not all
>that keen on some of these ingredients.
>
>China Clay - 50
>Westone H - 5
>FFF Feldspar - 27
>Quartz - 17
>Whiting - 1
>
>Apparently the Westone H is sodium activated white Texas bentonite. Would
>any bentonite work here, or do I have to get Westone H? How about the
>Feldspar. Is it absolutely necessary that I use FFF or is there something
>that will substitute nicely without modifying the chemical makeup too much?
>
>
>Thanks ahead of time!
>
>
>Nathan Gartz
Ron Roy
RR#4
15084 Little Lake Road
Brighton, Ontario
Canada
K0K 1H0
Nathan Gartz on mon 21 jan 08
>Hello Nathan:
>
>Super Standard Porcelain isn't a claybody. It's a type of Primary Kaolin
>mined and processed by ECC in Cornwall UK. ECC is actually owned by
>Imerys, a large French mineral company.
>
>Super Standard has been imported by Hammill and Gillespie in New Jersey you
>might try them. They have a website and you can Google them to get it. I
>got a pallet of Super Standard from Laguna Clay in Byesville, Ohio a couple
>of summers ago. So you could try Laguna too.
>
>regards, Craig Martell Hopewell, Oregon
Wait a sec! Peter Lane stated in his book, Contemporary Studio Porcelain
found here:
http://books.google.com/books?id=XTvrTcCzPbgC&pg=PA27&lpg=PA27&dq=super+standard+porcelain&source=web&ots=5lEyWEHauQ&sig=W5sIUh8aIFwiT0aPEMhLVX5V8Uo
that Super Standard Porcelain is a clay body. Anyone use it as a claybody?
-Nathan
email: nathan.gartz (AT) gmail.com
web: www.nathangart.com
Nathan Gartz on wed 23 jan 08
Thanks for all your help! With some help, I was able to find a clay body
that included Super Standard Porcelain (or at least, closely resembled it).
All this time on the computer and reading in the books has gotten to me!
Time to take a breather and throw some mud.
Thanks again,
Nathan
Steve Donker on mon 28 jan 08
Hi - just surfed passed and was interest to read about Super Standard
Porcelain. It is a kaolin I know very well - the whitest, strongest, most
plastic one I know.
The best information is from the manufacturer's :-
Main website is http://www.imerys-tableware.com/
Specific to Super Standard Porcelain is
http://www.imerys-tableware.com/pdf/C1.100.K_Super%20Standard%20Porcelain.pdf
Cheers!
Steve Donker
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