Earl Brunner on thu 28 feb 08
The worst thing I ever did to my neck, was sit hunched over at a low power wheel
for 10 years. Didn't matter much whether it was the Shimpo, the Brent or the
Creative Industries. Hours of driving hunched over the steering wheel would do
the same thing (and in Nevada, it's hours to ANYWHERE). I got so bad that I was
locking up my neck about every 3-4 weeks and would be miserable for a week to
10 days. It took about a five year subbatical from the wheel and about a year of
chiropractors to fix it all. After the chiropractor, I learned to feel it starting and to
keep it from happening.
Earl Brunner
Las Vegas, NV
----- Original Message ----
From: joyce
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 9:33:38 AM
Subject: Potter's Arthritis
Somebody (Steve, maybe?) told about being diagnosed with
arthritis only to discover on his own that he had "weird" sleeping
positions ....... changed the sleep pattern...... and No More
Arthritis!
I DO undoubtedly have arthritis but am working out via Physical
Therapy, which is helping. However, my first diagnosis came long
before this latest genuine bout. Terrible pains in my neck... sharp
pains, plus dull aches all the time........ hurt to move it at all.
Diagnosis was arthritis. Came home a little discouraged since I'd
been told there wasn't a lot that could be done.
Next day #1 walked through as I was on the computer with Clayart.......
said, " your neck will never feel better if you keep peering up from
under your brows to see the screen....... puts your neck in a godawful
position." Light dawned for both of us simultaneously! hmmm
How long had I had the new Dell with the larger screen? About 6
months. How long had I felt the intense neck pain? About 5 months.
joyce on thu 28 feb 08
Somebody (Steve, maybe?) told about being diagnosed with
arthritis only to discover on his own that he had "weird" sleeping
positions ....... changed the sleep pattern...... and No More
Arthritis!
I DO undoubtedly have arthritis but am working out via Physical
Therapy, which is helping. However, my first diagnosis came long
before this latest genuine bout. Terrible pains in my neck... sharp
pains, plus dull aches all the time........ hurt to move it at all.
Diagnosis was arthritis. Came home a little discouraged since I'd
been told there wasn't a lot that could be done.
Next day #1 walked through as I was on the computer with Clayart.......
said, " your neck will never feel better if you keep peering up from
under your brows to see the screen....... puts your neck in a godawful
position." Light dawned for both of us simultaneously! hmmm
How long had I had the new Dell with the larger screen? About 6
months. How long had I felt the intense neck pain? About 5 months.
#1 adjusted the screen until it felt right. Never any more signs of
arthritis in the neck ... at least, no more pain. Tests indicate that I
never had arthritis in my neck!
When I asked the same doctor (not my regular doctor but the one
who had diagnosed arthritis) months later if I should be further
concerned about my neck......... his response was, "Why? Nothing
is wrong with that neck. Given your age (hate that expression!), your
neck is in perfect shape.. would be even for a woman much younger.
Joyce
In the Mojave desert of California hoping I'm not calling down the
Bad Neck Spirits with this tale.............
Arnold Howard on fri 29 feb 08
From: "joyce"
> #1 adjusted the screen until it felt right. Never any
> more signs of
> arthritis in the neck ... at least, no more pain. Tests
> indicate that I
> never had arthritis in my neck!
Joyce, thanks for the anecdote about good posture. Before
personal computers, typists kept whatever they were typing
from (i.e. a steno pad) on either side of the typewriter.
This resulted in tilting the head all day long as they
looked at their steno pad.
A chiropractor told me that this caused serious neck
problems. She centered a copy holder above her typewriter to
avoid the head tilt. You accomplished the same thing by
adjusting your monitor. This principle applies to posture in
any repetitive task.
Occasionally I stand with back to a wall and heels, hips,
shoulders, and head lined up against the wall. This forms
the habit of good posture, which has an amazing effect on
physical and mental well being.
Sincerely,
Arnold Howard
Paragon Industries, L.P., Mesquite, Texas USA
ahoward@paragonweb.com / www.paragonweb.com
Donna Kat on fri 29 feb 08
>I DO undoubtedly have arthritis but am working out via Physical
>Therapy, which is helping. However, my first diagnosis came long
>before this latest genuine bout. Terrible pains in my neck... sharp
>pains, plus dull aches all the time........ hurt to move it at all.
>Diagnosis was arthritis. Came home a little discouraged since I'd
>been told there wasn't a lot that could be done.
>
Anyone who has arthritis should know that glucosamine has been researched in
Europe and used for animals in America for many years. It has been found
very effective in treating arthritis. When I was first diagnosed with
arthritis I was given pain killers to help deal with the pain (I'm sorry but
the only pain killer that is going to numb the feeling of a knife being
twisted inside your body into your joints is going to be one that makes you
really dopey which I can't afford). I went to for a second opinion to a
highly thought of specialist and he told me the story of his introduction to
glucosamine. He had been asked to be on a news program where he would
represent the 'medical' viewpoint vs the self medicating farmers who had
found that if glucosamine worked on their animals, it would work on them.
Being the man he is, he thoroughly researched the topic and took the side of
the farmers. He recommended that I take around 1000 grams a day. Within a
month I could not tell I had ever had a problem. Every once in awhile I
start forgetting to take my pills because I simply don't feel pain anymore.
When that happens I start to feel an ache in my joint and I get back on
schedule - the pain goes away. There are different kinds of arthritis -
mine is the kind where the cartilage simply wears away with age. I cannot
speak to the other kind. Donna
Ric Swenson on fri 29 feb 08
Many years ago I learned that if I put a mirror in front of my wheel...I co=
uld avoid the bending of the neck to view the shape of the form I worked on=
.....you don't have to hunch over to see what shape you are making...sit up=
straight and view it through the morror and be far enough away....through =
the irror that it can be very helpful.
=20
Just a small hint....maybe it can help?
=20
=20
Ric
=20
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t IV Scene III Richard H. ("Ric") Swenson, Teacher, Office of Internationa=
l Cooperation and Exchange of Jingdezhen Ceramic Institute, TaoYang Road, E=
astern Suburb, Jingdezhen City.JiangXi Province, P.R. of China. Postal code=
333001. Mobile/cellular phone :13767818872 < RicSwenson0823@hotmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:56:45 -0800> From: ecbmail06-clay@YAHOO.COM> Su=
bject: Re: Potter's Arthritis> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG> > The worst th=
ing I ever did to my neck, was sit hunched over at a low power wheel> for 1=
0 years. Didn't matter much whether it was the Shimpo, the Brent or the> Cr=
eative Industries. Hours of driving hunched over the steering wheel would d=
o> the same thing (and in Nevada, it's hours to ANYWHERE). I got so bad tha=
t I was> locking up my neck about every 3-4 weeks and would be miserable fo=
r a week to> 10 days. It took about a five year subbatical from the wheel a=
nd about a year of> chiropractors to fix it all. After the chiropractor, I =
learned to feel it starting and to> keep it from happening.> > Earl Brunner=
> Las Vegas, NV> > > > ----- Original Message ----> From: joyce WVISP.COM>> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008=
9:33:38 AM> Subject: Potter's Arthritis> > Somebody (Steve, maybe?) told a=
bout being diagnosed with> arthritis only to discover on his own that he ha=
d "weird" sleeping> positions ....... changed the sleep pattern...... and N=
o More> Arthritis!> > I DO undoubtedly have arthritis but am working out vi=
a Physical> Therapy, which is helping. However, my first diagnosis came lon=
g> before this latest genuine bout. Terrible pains in my neck... sharp> pai=
ns, plus dull aches all the time........ hurt to move it at all.> Diagnosis=
was arthritis. Came home a little discouraged since I'd> been told there w=
asn't a lot that could be done.> > Next day #1 walked through as I was on t=
he computer with Clayart.......> said, " your neck will never feel better i=
f you keep peering up from> under your brows to see the screen....... puts =
your neck in a godawful> position." Light dawned for both of us simultaneou=
sly! hmmm> > How long had I had the new Dell with the larger screen? About =
6> months. How long had I felt the intense neck pain? About 5 months.> > __=
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steve graber on fri 29 feb 08
somewhere i heard and picked up the idea to add 3 or 4 inches to the back legs of my wheel chair. with the chair tilted maybe 30 degrees forward that's 30 degrees my back and neck do not have to adjust for.
that helped my low back a lot.
i also keep a block on the left foot to make it about the height as my right foot on the peddle of the wheel.
balanced feet is also handy for the overall body.
see ya
Steve Graber, Graber's Pottery, Inc
Claremont, California USA
The Steve Tool - for awesum texture on pots!
www.graberspottery.com steve@graberspottery.com
----- Original Message ----
From: Earl Brunner
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 7:56:45 PM
Subject: Re: Potter's Arthritis
The worst thing I ever did to my neck, was sit hunched over at a low power wheel
for 10 years. Didn't matter much whether it was the Shimpo, the Brent or the
Creative Industries. Hours of driving hunched over the steering wheel would do
the same thing (and in Nevada, it's hours to ANYWHERE). I got so bad that I was
locking up my neck about every 3-4 weeks and would be miserable for a week to
10 days. It took about a five year subbatical from the wheel and about a year of
chiropractors to fix it all. After the chiropractor, I learned to feel it starting and to
keep it from happening.
Earl Brunner
Las Vegas, NV
----- Original Message ----
From: joyce
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 9:33:38 AM
Subject: Potter's Arthritis
Somebody (Steve, maybe?) told about being diagnosed with
arthritis only to discover on his own that he had "weird" sleeping
positions ....... changed the sleep pattern...... and No More
Arthritis!
I DO undoubtedly have arthritis but am working out via Physical
Therapy, which is helping. However, my first diagnosis came long
before this latest genuine bout. Terrible pains in my neck... sharp
pains, plus dull aches all the time........ hurt to move it at all.
Diagnosis was arthritis. Came home a little discouraged since I'd
been told there wasn't a lot that could be done.
Next day #1 walked through as I was on the computer with Clayart.......
said, " your neck will never feel better if you keep peering up from
under your brows to see the screen....... puts your neck in a godawful
position." Light dawned for both of us simultaneously! hmmm
How long had I had the new Dell with the larger screen? About 6
months. How long had I felt the intense neck pain? About 5 months.
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steve graber on sat 1 mar 08
i use glucosamine and it works very well.
however my wife can't because portions are made from shell fish, therefore has iodine and she's alergic to iodine and shell fish.
she was surprised when her doctor recomended she take glucosamine, knowing she was alergic to iodine. except he never read the lable and never knew it was not to be used by those with iodine alergies.
see ya
Steve Graber, Graber's Pottery, Inc
Claremont, California USA
The Steve Tool - for awesum texture on pots!
www.graberspottery.com steve@graberspottery.com
----- Original Message ----
From: Donna Kat
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 12:03:41 PM
Subject: Re: Potter's Arthritis
>I DO undoubtedly have arthritis but am working out via Physical
>Therapy, which is helping. However, my first diagnosis came long
>before this latest genuine bout. Terrible pains in my neck... sharp
>pains, plus dull aches all the time........ hurt to move it at all.
>Diagnosis was arthritis. Came home a little discouraged since I'd
>been told there wasn't a lot that could be done.
>
Anyone who has arthritis should know that glucosamine has been researched in
Europe and used for animals in America for many years. It has been found
very effective in treating arthritis. When I was first diagnosed with
arthritis I was given pain killers to help deal with the pain (I'm sorry but
the only pain killer that is going to numb the feeling of a knife being
twisted inside your body into your joints is going to be one that makes you
really dopey which I can't afford). I went to for a second opinion to a
highly thought of specialist and he told me the story of his introduction to
glucosamine. He had been asked to be on a news program where he would
represent the 'medical' viewpoint vs the self medicating farmers who had
found that if glucosamine worked on their animals, it would work on them.
Being the man he is, he thoroughly researched the topic and took the side of
the farmers. He recommended that I take around 1000 grams a day. Within a
month I could not tell I had ever had a problem. Every once in awhile I
start forgetting to take my pills because I simply don't feel pain anymore.
When that happens I start to feel an ache in my joint and I get back on
schedule - the pain goes away. There are different kinds of arthritis -
mine is the kind where the cartilage simply wears away with age. I cannot
speak to the other kind. Donna
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Donna Kat on sun 2 mar 08
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:03:41 -0500, Donna Kat
wrote:
SORRY Milligrams!!!! not grams.. The two half of my brains really don't
communicate at all.
>>I DO undoubtedly have arthritis but am working out via Physical
>>Therapy, which is helping. However, my first diagnosis came long
>>before this latest genuine bout. Terrible pains in my neck... sharp
>>pains, plus dull aches all the time........ hurt to move it at all.
>>Diagnosis was arthritis. Came home a little discouraged since I'd
>>been told there wasn't a lot that could be done.
>>
>
>Anyone who has arthritis should know that glucosamine has been researched
in
>Europe and used for animals in America for many years. It has been found
>very effective in treating arthritis. When I was first diagnosed with
>arthritis I was given pain killers to help deal with the pain (I'm sorry
but
>the only pain killer that is going to numb the feeling of a knife being
>twisted inside your body into your joints is going to be one that makes
you
>really dopey which I can't afford). I went to for a second opinion to a
>highly thought of specialist and he told me the story of his introduction
to
>glucosamine. He had been asked to be on a news program where he would
>represent the 'medical' viewpoint vs the self medicating farmers who had
>found that if glucosamine worked on their animals, it would work on them.
>Being the man he is, he thoroughly researched the topic and took the side
of
>the farmers. He recommended that I take around 1000 grams a day. Within
a
>month I could not tell I had ever had a problem. Every once in awhile I
>start forgetting to take my pills because I simply don't feel pain
anymore.
> When that happens I start to feel an ache in my joint and I get back on
>schedule - the pain goes away. There are different kinds of arthritis -
>mine is the kind where the cartilage simply wears away with age. I cannot
>speak to the other kind. Donna
>
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Ivor and Olive Lewis on sun 2 mar 08
Dear Donna Kat,=20
Would you please confirm that you are ingesting 1000 grams, that is =
about two and a quarter pounds of Glucosamine every day.
<could not tell I had ever had a problem.>>
This seems to be a lot more than the 1500 milligrams that are in the =
tablets I take, one per day.
Best regards,
Ivor Lewis.
Redhill,
South Australia.
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