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ball milling lithium carbonate

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James F on sun 9 mar 08


I've been lurking on this list for 5 years. Never posted because a) I don't=
understand how to post or reply, and b) when I get my digest, all of the t=
hreads seem to be stale anyway. I see lots of replies, but never seem to s=
ee original posts. My problem, not the list's. Let's see if this post mak=
es it to the list.

My question: I use a lot of lithium carbonate in my sculptural glazes. As=
you know, the stuff is very granular, I'm guessing to decrease inhalation =
risk, and is a bear to work through a sieve. Does anyone see a compelling =
reason why I could not ball mill my lithium into a powder before use? Usin=
g the borrowed ball mill on every glaze batch would be problematic, but usi=
ng it once in a while to pulverize a big batch of LiCO3 would be doable. T=
hanks.

...James



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David Beumee on sun 9 mar 08


The oxide is in carbonate form, so it should be OK to ball mill without solubility problems. I've found that wet ball milling works best, pouring off the result into a five gallon bucket, decanting the extra water once its had a chance to settle, and scooping out the grind into a plaster bat to dry. I do this with Titanium Dioxide and it works well. For the mill that I use, an eight hour grind seems to do the trick for most anything.

David Beumee
Earth Alchemy Pottery
Lafayette, CO
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-------------- Original message from James F : --------------


> I've been lurking on this list for 5 years. Never posted because a) I don't
> understand how to post or reply, and b) when I get my digest, all of the threads
> seem to be stale anyway. I see lots of replies, but never seem to see original
> posts. My problem, not the list's. Let's see if this post makes it to the
> list.
>
> My question: I use a lot of lithium carbonate in my sculptural glazes. As you
> know, the stuff is very granular, I'm guessing to decrease inhalation risk, and
> is a bear to work through a sieve. Does anyone see a compelling reason why I
> could not ball mill my lithium into a powder before use? Using the borrowed
> ball mill on every glaze batch would be problematic, but using it once in a
> while to pulverize a big batch of LiCO3 would be doable. Thanks.
>
> ...James
>
>
>
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Ivor and Olive Lewis on tue 11 mar 08


Dear James F,

If you are only dealing with kilo or so of Lithium Carbonate I would =
suggest that you either make or procure a 10 inch Mortar and Pestle and =
do this job by hand. Using a rolling action with the pestle rapidly =
reduces granular materials down to a hundred mesh.

Please wear a respirator mask. Breathing Li2C03 fines would be =
inadvisable.

Or recompound your glazes to use Petalite of Spodumene.

Best regards,

Ivor Lewis.
Redhill,
South Australia.
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Ron Roy on tue 11 mar 08


Hi James,

Lithium Carb is the most soluble of the carbonates that we use - grinding
them up in any way will increase the solubility - and may lead to fit
problems.

Why not get a lithium frit and use that?

RR

>I've been lurking on this list for 5 years. Never posted because a) I
>don't understand how to post or reply, and b) when I get my digest, all of
>the threads seem to be stale anyway. I see lots of replies, but never
>seem to see original posts. My problem, not the list's. Let's see if
>this post makes it to the list.
>
>My question: I use a lot of lithium carbonate in my sculptural glazes.
>As you know, the stuff is very granular, I'm guessing to decrease
>inhalation risk, and is a bear to work through a sieve. Does anyone see a
>compelling reason why I could not ball mill my lithium into a powder
>before use? Using the borrowed ball mill on every glaze batch would be
>problematic, but using it once in a while to pulverize a big batch of
>LiCO3 would be doable. Thanks.
>
>...James

Ron Roy
RR#4
15084 Little Lake Road
Brighton, Ontario
Canada
K0K 1H0

Edouard Bastarache Inc. on wed 12 mar 08


Hello Ivor,

I have exprienced this type of problem.
I let the glaze sit for 7-10 days to give time
to water to dissolve partly the lithium
carbonate grains, and re-sieve 60 mesh.


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(A la revoyure)

Edouard Bastarache
Spertesperantisto

Sorel-Tracy
Quebec

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ivor and Olive Lewis"

To:
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 12:09 AM
Subject: ball milling lithium carbonate


Dear James F,

If you are only dealing with kilo or so of Lithium
Carbonate I would suggest that you either make or
procure a 10 inch Mortar and Pestle and do this
job by hand. Using a rolling action with the
pestle rapidly reduces granular materials down to
a hundred mesh.

Please wear a respirator mask. Breathing Li2C03
fines would be inadvisable.

Or recompound your glazes to use Petalite of
Spodumene.

Best regards,

Ivor Lewis.
Redhill,
South Australia.


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