Kathy Forer on tue 8 apr 08
A friend of a friend is seeking admission to art school next year but
didn't get into her first choices, so she's now looking at schools
with rolling admissions. Does anyone know the art departments at any
of these schools or any others with rolling-type admissions?
The friend is a recipient of a prestigious international scholarship
and looking for a painting graduate masters degree. I don't know
anything about the friend's style.
Donna Kat on sat 12 apr 08
On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 19:44:13 -0400, Kathy Forer wrote:
>A friend of a friend is seeking admission to art school next year but
>didn't get into her first choices, so she's now looking at schools
>with rolling admissions. Does anyone know the art departments at any
>of these schools or any others with rolling-type admissions?
>The friend is a recipient of a prestigious international scholarship
>and looking for a painting graduate masters degree. I don't know
>anything about the friend's style.
I can tell you that I would be cautious of SUNY Stony Brook or "Stony Brook
University" as it has been renamed. While the appearance of the University
has greatly improved since the Shirley Kenny became president the morale of
the University has plummeted. Part of the problem however is just how NY
State runs things. For our first three years here my husband=92s salary
actually went down in value each year and that was before President Kenny.
Compared to the rest of the nation salary with cost of living included, is
well below average. A great effort has been made to increase student
enrollment but hiring new faculty has been continually blocked and faculty
in general are treated pretty poorly not to mention anyone else who is not a=
'yes' man. The new provost was hired with a promise of a clean slate and
then told after taking the job that he was millions of $$$ in debt. He
recently attempted to deal with the budget crisis by telling departments
that there would be no pay for adjunct professors next term.
For those of you not aware of how colleges now pinch their pennies, teaching=
adjuncts is the inexpensive way of filling teaching positions. The do not
pay benefits on these positions which take up a large part of the cost of a
faculty position. The expectation by administration was that full time
faculty would take up the slack. The problem with this is those faculty are=
already working more than a 40 hour workweek. People have this bizarre idea=
that a teacher spends 3 hours teaching a class 3 times a week and that they
are only working 9 hours (multiply that by the number of courses taught).
What they don=92t see are the hours it takes to prepare for the classes, the=
hours grading the work, hours making up tests, hours going to meetings,
hours doing administration, hours for research, hours for reviewing other=92=
papers, hours writing papers=85 Let=92s put it this way, we come home from
work, have dinner and I go and pot, my husband a professor spends the
evening reading or writing a paper. We have gone on 2 real vacations in 30
The provost did find another way of pulling together money since had he
followed through with this idea hundreds of classes would have had to been
cancelled but this does not mean that he will not have to return to this
position the semester after next.
So the short of it is that the university has excellent faculty in science
and the appearance of the campus has greatly improved, however the general
feel of the campus is depressed and unhappy. There are too many students
for the facilities we have and the faculty are close to rioting. If you
have a thick skin you can probably live with that. I will say that the art
department is probably better off now than it was when Marburger was
President but I can=92t swear to it. I do know that at one time we had one =
the best metal works in the country and that was one of the many things
allowed to wither away. The ceramics department has a reputation for being
=93ANTI-functional work=94. If the department has stellar work going on, it=
not obvious to those not in the know. On the plus side we are very close to=
NYC (1.5 - 2 hour train ride).