Maurice Weitman on mon 14 apr 08
At 15:00 -0400 on 4/14/08, Gail Dapogny wrote:
>I use Safari as my browser and have a separate mailbox for Clayart.
>In my rules, I have designated Any Recipient, From, To, or Subject
>with Clayart in its title should go to my Clayart mailbox. I even
>designate a special color. Nothing happens; it all goes to my
>Inbox. What am I doing wrong?
Hi, Gail,
First of all, Safari is your browser, but when you speak of "rules"
and "mailbox" you are probably talking about your email client, which
seems to be Apple's Mail program.
If you're using some kind of webmail program to read your email
within Safari, let me know...
The problem you're having is that (most versions of) clayart emails
contain the poster's email address in the "From" header, and your
email address in the "To" header, not clayart's.
And as you've seen, the subject doesn't say "clayart" anywhere
(except for this one which you wrote).
There are two solutions:
First option is making a change in Mail's rules and here's how:
1) in your "rule" for clayart, get rid of ( by clicking on the "-"
next to them) all but one condition (any recipient, from, to, etc.).
2) In the remaining one, go to the first field which is a pull-down
menu and select the bottom-most option "Edit Header List" and click
on the + sign, and type in "Sender" without the quotes.
3) now make the rule "Sender" "contains" "clayart"
The second option involves changing your clayart header option to
include [CLAYART] in the subject headers for you. You do this by
sending an email to
with ONLY the following in the message body (the subject doesn't matter):
set clayart SUBJECTHDR
If you have trouble with that let me know.
Regards,
Maurice, still living at a friend's house while ours is being
painted... looks great, smells like paint, and is an unbelievable
amount of work even when others do the painting. Whose idea was it
to move to NY???
Yes, I miss my clayart buds, am sorry I missed NCECA, and can't tell
whether doing taxes or packing, painting, selling our house is worse.
Gail Dapogny on mon 14 apr 08
I use Safari as my browser and have a separate mailbox for Clayart.
In my rules, I have designated Any Recipient, From, To, or Subject
with Clayart in its title should go to my Clayart mailbox. I even
designate a special color. Nothing happens; it all goes to my
Inbox. What am I doing wrong?
Thanks for any advice...
Gail
Kathy Forer on mon 14 apr 08
On Apr 14, 2008, at 3:00 PM, Gail Dapogny wrote:
> I use Safari as my browser and have a separate mailbox for Clayart.
> In my rules, I have designated Any Recipient, From, To, or Subject
> with Clayart in its title should go to my Clayart mailbox. I even
> designate a special color. Nothing happens; it all goes to my
> Inbox. What am I doing wrong?
Does the line below Description in your rule contain 'If "all" of the
following conditions are met:' or 'If "any"...'? It's easier to be
more specific with a rule than try to filter on too many different
things.
Try creating a filter with "To" "Contains" and CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Save the filter and close Mail Preferences. Highlight a handful of
messages in your Inbox that contains at least a few of Clayart and go
to Menu Bar > Message > Apply Rules.
If that still doesn't work, Are you sure the special Clayart mailbox
is selected in the Rules actions tab properly? You have to create the
destination mailbox before you create the rule. Can you move messages
there by hand?
If you're testing a rule, highlighting a handful of varied messages is
easier than having it evaluate the entire contents of your Inbox.
After you know your Rule works, do an Apply Rules to your entire
Inbox. Once that's done and working it should happen automatically.
You might need to rebuild your Mailbox if it still doesn't work.
Select Inbox, or Account name in Mailboxes, go to Menu Bar > Mailbox >
Rebuild (all the way at the bottom). And let that work. Check in
Activity Window (Menu Bar > Window > Activity Window) to see when it's
finished as it doesn't give any other feedback.
Good luck!
Kathy
--
Kathy Forer
http://www.foreverink.com
Stauffer Linda on mon 14 apr 08
Safari Rules, name rule
set TO Includes CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG. It works for me!
On Apr 14, 2008, at 3:00 PM, Gail Dapogny wrote:
I use Safari as my browser and have a separate mailbox for Clayart.
In my rules, I have designated Any Recipient, From, To, or Subject
with Clayart in its title should go to my Clayart mailbox. I even
designate a special color. Nothing happens; it all goes to my
Inbox. What am I doing wrong?
Thanks for any advice...
Gail
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Gail Dapogny on tue 15 apr 08
Maurice,
Thanks so much for replying. Yes, it is my Mail program and not
Safari (duh).
When you say to "get rid of all but one condition" ... what is that
condition. I take it that I should get rid of From, To, Subject, and
Recipient. What is left? Or is the "Sender" the remaining condition?
Anyway, thanks. I'm doing what you say.
Gail
On Apr 14, 2008, at 11:19 PM, Maurice Weitman wrote:
> At 15:00 -0400 on 4/14/08, Gail Dapogny wrote:
>> I use Safari as my browser and have a separate mailbox for Clayart.
>> In my rules, I have designated Any Recipient, From, To, or Subject
>> with Clayart in its title should go to my Clayart mailbox. I even
>> designate a special color. Nothing happens; it all goes to my
>> Inbox. What am I doing wrong?
>
> Hi, Gail,
>
> First of all, Safari is your browser, but when you speak of "rules"
> and "mailbox" you are probably talking about your email client, which
> seems to be Apple's Mail program.
>
> If you're using some kind of webmail program to read your email
> within Safari, let me know...
>
> The problem you're having is that (most versions of) clayart emails
> contain the poster's email address in the "From" header, and your
> email address in the "To" header, not clayart's.
>
> And as you've seen, the subject doesn't say "clayart" anywhere
> (except for this one which you wrote).
>
> There are two solutions:
>
> First option is making a change in Mail's rules and here's how:
>
> 1) in your "rule" for clayart, get rid of ( by clicking on the "-"
> next to them) all but one condition (any recipient, from, to, etc.).
>
> 2) In the remaining one, go to the first field which is a pull-down
> menu and select the bottom-most option "Edit Header List" and click
> on the + sign, and type in "Sender" without the quotes.
>
> 3) now make the rule "Sender" "contains" "clayart"
>
> The second option involves changing your clayart header option to
> include [CLAYART] in the subject headers for you. You do this by
> sending an email to
>
>
>
> with ONLY the following in the message body (the subject doesn't
> matter):
>
> set clayart SUBJECTHDR
>
> If you have trouble with that let me know.
>
> Regards,
> Maurice, still living at a friend's house while ours is being
> painted... looks great, smells like paint, and is an unbelievable
> amount of work even when others do the painting. Whose idea was it
> to move to NY???
>
> Yes, I miss my clayart buds, am sorry I missed NCECA, and can't tell
> whether doing taxes or packing, painting, selling our house is worse.
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
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> Clayart members may send postings to: clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
> You may look at the archives for the list, post messages, change your
> subscription settings or unsubscribe/leave the list here: http://
> www.acers.org/cic/clayart/
>
> Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
> melpots2@visi.com
>
>
MaryJane on tue 15 apr 08
I've been working with computers and am a PC trainer for my day job. The issue could just be in the wording of the rule. When setting up rules be sure to use terms such as "include" and "contains" instead of "is".
such as: when sender "contains" Clayart move to folder "Clayart".
See if that works better. :-)
MaryJane
-----Original Message-----
>From: Gail Dapogny
>Sent: Apr 14, 2008 3:00 PM
>To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>Subject: clayart computer question
>
>I use Safari as my browser and have a separate mailbox for Clayart.
>In my rules, I have designated Any Recipient, From, To, or Subject
>with Clayart in its title should go to my Clayart mailbox. I even
>designate a special color. Nothing happens; it all goes to my
>Inbox. What am I doing wrong?
>Thanks for any advice...
>Gail
>
>______________________________________________________________________________
>Clayart members may send postings to: clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>
>You may look at the archives for the list, post messages, change your
>subscription settings or unsubscribe/leave the list here: http://www.acers.org/cic/clayart/
>
>Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at melpots2@visi.com
MaryJane
Dwell in Possibility
Jennifer Boyer on tue 15 apr 08
Yup, if you look at your Clayart emails they come FROM the writer of
the email, and TO Clayart.
Jennifer
On Apr 14, 2008, at 7:59 PM, Stauffer Linda wrote:
> Safari Rules, name rule
> set TO Includes CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG. It works for me!
> On Apr 14, 2008, at 3:00 PM, Gail Dapogny wrote:
>
> I use Safari as my browser and have a separate mailbox for Clayart.
> In my rules, I have designated Any Recipient, From, To, or Subject
> with Clayart in its title should go to my Clayart mailbox. I even
> designate a special color. Nothing happens; it all goes to my
> Inbox. What am I doing wrong?
> Thanks for any advice...
> Gail
>
> __
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Jennifer Boyer
Thistle Hill Pottery
Montpelier, VT
http://thistlehillpottery.com
http://jboyerdesign.com
http://artisanshand.com
***************************
Maurice Weitman on tue 15 apr 08
Hi, Gail,
What I meant to say was... if you have four conditions... one for
subject, one for from, etc., remove any three of them and change the
one remaining by doing the "edit header list" and establishing the
sender header for the that rule.
But... I was just trying to let you keep the rest of the rule info
rather than deleting it and starting over.
One more thing to those others with helpful suggestions or similar
dilemmas: there are several possibilities, mostly determined by one's
HEADER option within clayart's listserv, of what appears in the To
and From header. Almost always, though, the Sender header will be a
good one to latch onto.
Of course, one's email client may be filtering out some more obscure
headers (like Sender).
Regards,
Maurice
At 22:27 -0400 on 4/15/08, Gail Dapogny wrote:
>Maurice,
>Thanks so much for replying. Yes, it is my Mail program and not
>Safari (duh).
>When you say to "get rid of all but one condition" ... what is that
>condition. I take it that I should get rid of From, To, Subject, and
>Recipient. What is left? Or is the "Sender" the remaining condition?
>Anyway, thanks. I'm doing what you say.
>Gail
John Post on wed 16 apr 08
Here is how I have my mac mail program set up
If any of the following conditions are met
to contains CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
move message to mailbox clayart
*you must have a mailbox named clayart for this to work
John Post
Sterling Heights, Michigan
http://www.johnpost.us :: cone 6 glaze website ::
http://www.wemakeart.org :: elementary art website ::
Jennifer Boyer on wed 16 apr 08
Hi Gail,
Maurice may be busy unpacking!
Get rid of everything but TO CLAYART. If you look at the emails of
the Clayart list you will see that they are TO Clayart.
Counterintuitive, but true.....
Jennifer
On Apr 15, 2008, at 10:27 PM, Gail Dapogny wrote:
> Maurice,
> Thanks so much for replying. Yes, it is my Mail program and not
> Safari (duh).
> When you say to "get rid of all but one condition" ... what is that
> condition. I take it that I should get rid of From, To, Subject, and
> Recipient. What is left? Or is the "Sender" the remaining condition?
> Anyway, thanks. I'm doing what you say.
> Gail
>
>>
***************************
Jennifer Boyer
Thistle Hill Pottery
Montpelier, VT
http://thistlehillpottery.com
http://jboyerdesign.com
http://artisanshand.com
***************************
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