James and Sherron Bowen on tue 22 apr 08
Some of the recent comments about food and energy production need further
investigation. While there are many articles in the press and many books on
the subject most of the data comes from the USDA. I have provided some links
to USDA sites that have not only data, but also links for further
investigation. There are lots of myths flying around about where we are and
where we are going with biofuels and whether the current food shortages are
caused by conversion of grains to fuel and conversion of grains to pet food.
These sites should provide plenty to read and to think about.
Jim
"Have you read "The Omnivore's Dilemma" by Michael Pollan? He really gives
us the story about corn and how many of our lives now depend upon it."
"Did you know 30% of the USA corn is made for the gas tank! I
was shocked when I heard that. Monoculture grain is a commodity,
like oil, and not food. We are eating the seed corn!"
Feed Grains Database
This database contains statistics on four feed grains (corn, grain sorghum,
barley, and oats), foreign coarse grains (feed grains plus rye, millet, and
mixed grains), hay, and related items.
http://www.ers.usda.gov/data/feedgrains/
Bioenergy
With interest in renewable energy sources intensifying, the ERS online
briefing room provides links and information on commodity supply and demand,
retail food prices, and impacts of bioenergy development on the food/farm
sector.
http://www.ers.usda.gov/Briefing/Bioenergy/
Briefing Rooms
Each Briefing Room offers an indepth discussion synthesizing ERS research
and the economic issues that frame the analysis.
http://www.ers.usda.gov/Briefing/
Corn Briefing Room
http://www.ers.usda.gov/Briefing/Corn/
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"The job of trying to tell the truth about people whose job it is to hide
the truth is almost as complicated and difficult as trying to hide it in the
first place. We journalists are of course obliged to cover the news, but our
deeper mission is to uncover the news that powerful people would prefer to
keep hidden."
Bill Moyers
JL Webster on wed 23 apr 08
"Did you know that 75% of facts are made up on the spot?"
This is a joke my friends like to pull on me since I'm the random facts type
of guy.
Thank you for citing your sources.
Jared
On 4/22/08, James and Sherron Bowen wrote:
>
> Some of the recent comments about food and energy production need further
> investigation. While there are many articles in the press and many books
> on
> the subject most of the data comes from the USDA. I have provided some
> links
> to USDA sites that have not only data, but also links for further
> investigation. There are lots of myths flying around about where we are
> and
> where we are going with biofuels and whether the current food shortages
> are
> caused by conversion of grains to fuel and conversion of grains to pet
> food.
> These sites should provide plenty to read and to think about.
> Jim
>
> "Have you read "The Omnivore's Dilemma" by Michael Pollan? He really
> gives
> us the story about corn and how many of our lives now depend upon it."
>
> "Did you know 30% of the USA corn is made for the gas tank! I
> was shocked when I heard that. Monoculture grain is a commodity,
> like oil, and not food. We are eating the seed corn!"
>
> Feed Grains Database
> This database contains statistics on four feed grains (corn, grain
> sorghum,
> barley, and oats), foreign coarse grains (feed grains plus rye, millet,
> and
> mixed grains), hay, and related items.
> http://www.ers.usda.gov/data/feedgrains/
>
>
> Bioenergy
> With interest in renewable energy sources intensifying, the ERS online
> briefing room provides links and information on commodity supply and
> demand,
> retail food prices, and impacts of bioenergy development on the food/farm
> sector.
> http://www.ers.usda.gov/Briefing/Bioenergy/
>
>
>
> Briefing Rooms
> Each Briefing Room offers an indepth discussion synthesizing ERS research
> and the economic issues that frame the analysis.
> http://www.ers.usda.gov/Briefing/
>
>
>
> Corn Briefing Room
> http://www.ers.usda.gov/Briefing/Corn/
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> "The job of trying to tell the truth about people whose job it is to hide
> the truth is almost as complicated and difficult as trying to hide it in
> the
> first place. We journalists are of course obliged to cover the news, but
> our
> deeper mission is to uncover the news that powerful people would prefer to
> keep hidden."
> Bill Moyers
>
>
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Lee on wed 23 apr 08
12% of the world wide corn production is for ethanol.
Just like our beef, we should feed our cars or cows stuff
that people could eat more efficiently. Grass is better for steer
and cellulose for ethanol. The monocultures depend upon depleting
the ground water and top soil.
--
Lee, a Mashiko potter in Minneapolis
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
"Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that
can be counted counts." --(Sign hanging in Einstein's office at
Princeton)
James and Sherron Bowen on wed 23 apr 08
The quotes in my e-mail came from others. I didn't do any research to check
on their validity. I only thought to provide sources for anyone to use and
create their own opinion from the data. One thing I know is that this is a
highly politicized subject and one shouldn't trust much of anything without
verification.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "JL Webster"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: Did you know 30% of the USA corn is made for the gas tank!
> "Did you know that 75% of facts are made up on the spot?"
>
> This is a joke my friends like to pull on me since I'm the random facts
> type
> of guy.
> Thank you for citing your sources.
>
> Jared
>
>
> On 4/22/08, James and Sherron Bowen wrote:
>>
>> Some of the recent comments about food and energy production need further
>> investigation. While there are many articles in the press and many books
>> on
>> the subject most of the data comes from the USDA. I have provided some
>> links
>> to USDA sites that have not only data, but also links for further
>> investigation. There are lots of myths flying around about where we are
>> and
>> where we are going with biofuels and whether the current food shortages
>> are
>> caused by conversion of grains to fuel and conversion of grains to pet
>> food.
>> These sites should provide plenty to read and to think about.
>> Jim
>>
>> "Have you read "The Omnivore's Dilemma" by Michael Pollan? He really
>> gives
>> us the story about corn and how many of our lives now depend upon it."
>>
>> "Did you know 30% of the USA corn is made for the gas tank! I
>> was shocked when I heard that. Monoculture grain is a commodity,
>> like oil, and not food. We are eating the seed corn!"
>>
>> Feed Grains Database
>> This database contains statistics on four feed grains (corn, grain
>> sorghum,
>> barley, and oats), foreign coarse grains (feed grains plus rye, millet,
>> and
>> mixed grains), hay, and related items.
>> http://www.ers.usda.gov/data/feedgrains/
>>
>>
>> Bioenergy
>> With interest in renewable energy sources intensifying, the ERS online
>> briefing room provides links and information on commodity supply and
>> demand,
>> retail food prices, and impacts of bioenergy development on the food/farm
>> sector.
>> http://www.ers.usda.gov/Briefing/Bioenergy/
>>
>>
>>
>> Briefing Rooms
>> Each Briefing Room offers an indepth discussion synthesizing ERS research
>> and the economic issues that frame the analysis.
>> http://www.ers.usda.gov/Briefing/
>>
>>
>>
>> Corn Briefing Room
>> http://www.ers.usda.gov/Briefing/Corn/
>>
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>> "The job of trying to tell the truth about people whose job it is to hide
>> the truth is almost as complicated and difficult as trying to hide it in
>> the
>> first place. We journalists are of course obliged to cover the news, but
>> our
>> deeper mission is to uncover the news that powerful people would prefer
>> to
>> keep hidden."
>> Bill Moyers
>>
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________________________
>> Clayart members may send postings to: clayart@lsv.ceramics.org
>>
>> You may look at the archives for the list, post messages, change your
>> subscription settings or unsubscribe/leave the list here:
>> http://www.acers.org/cic/clayart/
>>
>> Moderator of the list is Mel Jacobson who may be reached at
>> melpots2@visi.com
>>
>
> ______________________________________________________________________________
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>
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>
>
James and Sherron Bowen on thu 24 apr 08
"12% of the world wide corn production is for ethanol."
Was that corn suitable for food?
Much of the corn harvested is not suitable for human consumption.
How much?
Why?
Would it have been produced if the price wasn't driven by the ethanol
market?
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: Did you know 30% of the USA corn is made for the gas tank!
> 12% of the world wide corn production is for ethanol.
Lee on thu 24 apr 08
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:15 AM, JL Webster wrote:
> "Did you know that 75% of facts are made up on the spot?"
You just put post-modernism in a capsule! ;^)
--
Lee, a Mashiko potter in Minneapolis
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
"Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that
can be counted counts." --(Sign hanging in Einstein's office at
Princeton)
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