Hank Murrow on wed 23 apr 08
On Apr 23, 2008, at 4:43 PM, Jeff Gieringer wrote:
> Cathi,
>
> We walk on top of each other.......literally! You have to be
> creative
> about what you can store clay under (wedging table, slab roller &
> sink.
I visited Shigemasa Higashida in his Tokyo studio in 2006, and I was
astonished to be shown hatches in the wood floor that pulled open to
reveal lead-lined storage wells for clay. It seems he was given 13
tons of the rare Mogusa clay, so loved by those making Oribe, Shino,
and Hikidashi Setoguro wares. So there it reposes under his beautiful
floors until he needs it.
Now there is a committment to Clay!
Cheers, Hank
Kris Bliss on wed 23 apr 08
My best suggestion.... put everything on wheels. ware carts..glazing all on
wheels
i found those planter bases are great for buckets of glaze, you can stack 3
5ers tall.
as you put everything in make it as movable a possible, because as you grow
into
you space, you are going to want to move stuff. ...
my 2 c,
bliss in alaska,
where there is a new stream on my land.
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG]On Behalf Of Square Peg
Arts
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 1:03 PM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: Suggestions for Small Studios?
Well, last monday we went down to my future studio and did some demo -
ripped out all the carpet, got the big barn door to open and began taking
the wall out that divides the two small rooms. We took some measurements and
it looks like I have about 330 sq ft of floor space. 1 decent picture window
and of course the 10' barn door. A small niche, about 5'x 8' that I could
use as a damp room/greenware/bisque storage area.
Into this space I must put a laguna kickwheel, 24" slab roller, extruder,
utility sink, glaizing/waxing area, at least one work table for
slab/handbuilding and clay/tool/raw material storage. Kiln(s) will go
somewhere outside.
I would love to hear from you all how you make the most of your studio
space, suggestions and of course the many things I am forgetting about in my
3 years away from clay.
Any and all input will be greatly apreciated!
Hoping to be able to move equipment in in a couple weeks!
Thanks!
Cathi Newlin, Angels Camp, Ca
www.SquarePegArts.com
yes, that's a straw in my beer.
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Square Peg Arts on wed 23 apr 08
Well, last monday we went down to my future studio and did some demo - =
ripped out all the carpet, got the big barn door to open and began =
taking the wall out that divides the two small rooms. We took some =
measurements and it looks like I have about 330 sq ft of floor space. 1 =
decent picture window and of course the 10' barn door. A small niche, =
about 5'x 8' that I could use as a damp room/greenware/bisque storage =
area.
Into this space I must put a laguna kickwheel, 24" slab roller, =
extruder, utility sink, glaizing/waxing area, at least one work table =
for slab/handbuilding and clay/tool/raw material storage. Kiln(s) will =
go somewhere outside.
I would love to hear from you all how you make the most of your studio =
space, suggestions and of course the many things I am forgetting about =
in my 3 years away from clay.
Any and all input will be greatly apreciated!
Hoping to be able to move equipment in in a couple weeks!
Thanks!
Cathi Newlin, Angels Camp, Ca
www.SquarePegArts.com
yes, that's a straw in my beer.
Lee on wed 23 apr 08
In Japan, they have bamboo racks over the wheel and also hanging from
the ceiling behind the wheel platform. It makes use of space off
the floor for wareboards efficently.
--
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http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
"Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that
can be counted counts." --(Sign hanging in Einstein's office at
Princeton)
Forrest on wed 23 apr 08
My studio is even smaller and one thing I've found that has really helped
(as I tend to be a little disorganized) is pegboard walls. Yep, every wall
is pegboard, not drywall. I hang everything I can. It's all within sight
and reach. If something is not convenient, I just move it. I also have a
chest with shallow drawers for little stuff like sandpaper, extra brushes,
rubber stamps, occasionally used tools, etc.
Good luck!
Rosemary Forrest
On 4/23/08 5:02 PM, "Square Peg Arts" wrote:
> Well, last monday we went down to my future studio and did some demo - ripped
> out all the carpet, got the big barn door to open and began taking the wall
> out that divides the two small rooms. We took some measurements and it looks
> like I have about 330 sq ft of floor space. 1 decent picture window and of
> course the 10' barn door. A small niche, about 5'x 8' that I could use as a
> damp room/greenware/bisque storage area.
>
> Into this space I must put a laguna kickwheel, 24" slab roller, extruder,
> utility sink, glaizing/waxing area, at least one work table for
> slab/handbuilding and clay/tool/raw material storage. Kiln(s) will go
> somewhere outside.
>
> I would love to hear from you all how you make the most of your studio space,
> suggestions and of course the many things I am forgetting about in my 3 years
> away from clay.
> Any and all input will be greatly apreciated!
> Hoping to be able to move equipment in in a couple weeks!
> Thanks!
>
> Cathi Newlin, Angels Camp, Ca
> www.SquarePegArts.com
> yes, that's a straw in my beer.
>
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Jeff Gieringer on wed 23 apr 08
Cathi,
We walk on top of each other.......literally! You have to be creative
about what you can store clay under (wedging table, slab roller & sink. I
literally have about 18" between the slab roller wheel and the extruder
mount. Glaze buckets are stacked 6' high and raw materials are stacked
anywhere I can find to put them, which is about 10 different places. The
good news is, I take possession of my new 1000 sq ft studio ( which is mine
and only mine) the first of May. The only real advice I can give you is be
creative. It's amazing what ideas you can come up with when you put your
mind to it. Good luck!
Jeff Gieringer
Gatlinburg, TN
----- Original Message -----
From: "Square Peg Arts"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 5:02 PM
Subject: Suggestions for Small Studios?
Well, last monday we went down to my future studio and did some demo -
ripped out all the carpet, got the big barn door to open and began taking
the wall out that divides the two small rooms. We took some measurements and
it looks like I have about 330 sq ft of floor space. 1 decent picture window
and of course the 10' barn door. A small niche, about 5'x 8' that I could
use as a damp room/greenware/bisque storage area.
Into this space I must put a laguna kickwheel, 24" slab roller, extruder,
utility sink, glaizing/waxing area, at least one work table for
slab/handbuilding and clay/tool/raw material storage. Kiln(s) will go
somewhere outside.
I would love to hear from you all how you make the most of your studio
space, suggestions and of course the many things I am forgetting about in my
3 years away from clay.
Any and all input will be greatly apreciated!
Hoping to be able to move equipment in in a couple weeks!
Thanks!
Cathi Newlin, Angels Camp, Ca
www.SquarePegArts.com
yes, that's a straw in my beer.
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Patrick Cross on wed 23 apr 08
Put everything that you can on casters maybe?
In a small space the need for re-arranging comes up a lot I think. If you
get stuff up on wheels there's little lifting to do. It makes thorough
cleaning easier too. (Think about those puzzle games where ya have to get
all the numbered blocks in sequential order...and you can only move one
block at a time).
Patrick Cross
cone10soda
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Square Peg Arts
wrote:
> Well, last monday we went down to my future studio and did some demo -
> ripped out all the carpet, got the big barn door to open and began taking
> the wall out that divides the two small rooms. We took some measurements and
> it looks like I have about 330 sq ft of floor space. 1 decent picture window
> and of course the 10' barn door. A small niche, about 5'x 8' that I could
> use as a damp room/greenware/bisque storage area.
>
> Into this space I must put a laguna kickwheel, 24" slab roller, extruder,
> utility sink, glaizing/waxing area, at least one work table for
> slab/handbuilding and clay/tool/raw material storage. Kiln(s) will go
> somewhere outside.
>
> I would love to hear from you all how you make the most of your studio
> space, suggestions and of course the many things I am forgetting about in my
> 3 years away from clay.
> Any and all input will be greatly apreciated!
> Hoping to be able to move equipment in in a couple weeks!
> Thanks!
>
> Cathi Newlin, Angels Camp, Ca
> www.SquarePegArts.com
> yes, that's a straw in my beer.
>
>
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WJ Seidl on wed 23 apr 08
Cathi:
Don't forget to think "up". You mention that you have 330 square feet.
If in a building with 8 foot ceilings, that's actually 2640 cubic feet.
Put shelves around the room just above head height (so you don't knock
your noggin on them.) You can still reach whatever you put on them while
standing on the floor, but they're out of the way. Great for "work(s)
in progress", glaze chemicals you don't use much, the cat, kiln gods
that didn't work, etc. Hanging things from the ceiling might also
work...sieves, strainers, mixing paddles, small bits, cookie cutters and
stamps and tools in mesh bags...think kitchen pot and pan hanging
storage gone wild. (Hint: Bungee cords let you pull the bag(s) down and
get what you need...just don't let it go too quickly .)
Don't forget to think "nooks and crannies". Clay can be stored under
work and wedging tables, along with molds, bats, forms, cone packs,
magazines, an errant child...you get the idea.
Keep a smaller space well organized and clean. NOTHING p*sses me off
faster than not being able to _immediately_ lay my hands on what I need
in the studio...after all, it's MY space, my responsibility. I hate
playing "now where did I see that?" Big time waster. Second to the
above, finding a layer of dust on what I need just makes me crazy.
Spar-kling is not a city in China.
Remember too, that in a tight-ish space, you want what you use most
closest to where you use it.
Hope that helps,
Wayne Seidl
Square Peg Arts wrote:
> Well, last monday we went down to my future studio and did some demo - ripped out all the carpet, got the big barn door to open and began taking the wall out that divides the two small rooms. We took some measurements and it looks like I have about 330 sq ft of floor space. 1 decent picture window and of course the 10' barn door. A small niche, about 5'x 8' that I could use as a damp room/greenware/bisque storage area.
>
> Into this space I must put a laguna kickwheel, 24" slab roller, extruder, utility sink, glaizing/waxing area, at least one work table for slab/handbuilding and clay/tool/raw material storage. Kiln(s) will go somewhere outside.
>
> I would love to hear from you all how you make the most of your studio space, suggestions and of course the many things I am forgetting about in my 3 years away from clay.
> Any and all input will be greatly apreciated!
> Hoping to be able to move equipment in in a couple weeks!
> Thanks!
>
> Cathi Newlin, Angels Camp, Ca
> www.SquarePegArts.com
> yes, that's a straw in my beer.
>
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Ric Swenson on thu 24 apr 08
In my Anchorage studio, I built a cart on casters that kept all my Thorley's Mullite 12 X 24 X 1 1/2 inch thick kiln shelves at hip height....with shelf above for posts/cones,etc. Save wear and tear on my back for many years. Just roll the cart to the kiln.
Regards,
my 2 yuan....
Ric
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> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:22:34 -0500> From: cone10soda@GMAIL.COM> Subject: Re: Suggestions for Small Studios?> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG> > Put everything that you can on casters maybe?> > In a small space the need for re-arranging comes up a lot I think. If you> get stuff up on wheels there's little lifting to do. It makes thorough> cleaning easier too. (Think about those puzzle games where ya have to get> all the numbered blocks in sequential order...and you can only move one> block at a time).> > Patrick Cross> cone10soda> > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Square Peg Arts > wrote:> > > Well, last monday we went down to my future studio and did some demo -> > ripped out all the carpet, got the big barn door to open and began taking> > the wall out that divides the two small rooms. We took some measurements and> > it looks like I have about 330 sq ft of floor space. 1 decent picture window> > and of course the 10' barn door. A small niche, ab!
out 5'x 8' that I could> > use as a damp room/greenware/bisque storage area.> >> > Into this space I must put a laguna kickwheel, 24" slab roller, extruder,> > utility sink, glaizing/waxing area, at least one work table for> > slab/handbuilding and clay/tool/raw material storage. Kiln(s) will go> > somewhere outside.> >> > I would love to hear from you all how you make the most of your studio> > space, suggestions and of course the many things I am forgetting about in my> > 3 years away from clay.> > Any and all input will be greatly apreciated!> > Hoping to be able to move equipment in in a couple weeks!> > Thanks!> >> > Cathi Newlin, Angels Camp, Ca> > www.SquarePegArts.com> > yes, that's a straw in my beer.> >> >> > ______________________________________________________________________________> > Clayart members may send postings to: clayart@lsv.ceramics.org> >> > You may look at the archives for the list, post messages, change your> > subscription settings or unsubscrib!
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shane mickey on thu 24 apr 08
cathi
i would first recomend using graph paper to layout a=20
to scale version of the room, then scales of your equipment
and any tables you will want it will help with laying it out.
also i made all my ware racks go up on the wall, basically
put everything up on or against the walls to open up the floor
one big table in the center.
good luck
shane mickey
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Snail Scott on thu 24 apr 08
> From: "Square Peg Arts"
> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 5:02 PM
Everything on wheels! I use 2" casters under my clay bins
and such, mostly from surplus stores, but they are pretty
cheap elsewhere, too. I use locking casters on my
work benches - don't want those rolling on their own
initiative! Also, use shelving right up to the ceiling, with
rarely-used items higher up, and use workbenches with
storage underneath. In my case, all my clay lives in those
18-gallon Rubbermaid bins on castered dolleys, and roll
away under the tables when not in use, and stack inside
each other when empty. The empties can also be used
for damp boxes. A middle-of-the-ceiling drop-down
retractable electrical cord is nice, too - no trailing cords
across workbenches full of fragile stuff, or across the floor.
These run about $40 at any decent hardware store.
-Snail
Logan Johnson on thu 24 apr 08
Hey Cathi,
Try to find Bakers Racks . They make fantastic rolling shelves. You can change the position of the shelves. & the more enclosed ones make a great damp box with heavy plastic duct taped to the front & back. See if you can find a bakery or restaurant that's going out of business. (I found one & got mine for $20.00 ea.) Also, I have my pug mill on top a rolling tool box right next to my wheel. The drawers hold most of my tools in easy reach & I don't need an extra table for the pug mill. If you have a thrift store near you see if they have some old metal record holder racks. They work great for bat storage.
Hope this helps,
Logan
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Elizabeth Priddy on thu 24 apr 08
cathi
do you really need a 24 inch slab roller?
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Clayart SCtag on thu 24 apr 08
Lee, any photos? I have a bamboo forest and could use shelves.
Meg
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In Japan, they have bamboo racks over the wheel and also hanging from
the ceiling behind the wheel platform. It makes use of space off
the floor for wareboards efficently.
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Jamie Yocono on thu 24 apr 08
Cathi,
I second Wayne's suggestion of looking upwards for adding more storage space
in your new (small) studio. There is a really easy-to-install shelving
system that I've used in my last two studios. It's made by Schulte, here's a
link: http://www.schultestorage.com/catalog/option.asp?poid=223
The reason I like this system is that it is simple to install. Really, all
you do is hang a horizontal strip on the wall, screwed into your studs. Then
everything else hangs off of it. It's simple, and easy and modular. In
fact, I've used this system in everything from closets to garages to a
potting shed. There was a home decor store here that went out of business
and I bought a ton of their stuff for virtually nothing. In my studio right
now, I have four different areas with these shelves, and they hold an
amazing amount of stuff. BTW, I have about 8 extra pieces of the horizontal
rail, I'm not sure I'll ever use. If you want some, email me offline.
One recommendation I have about a work table is to add a shelf underneath
it. It's great for storing stuff. I have a heavy duty work table, and added
a huge shelf under the top, where I store glaze chemicals and extra clay.
Adding weight on the bottom of a table really helps with stability too, if
your table is light weight.
I also added a large, long shelf under my slab roller, where I keep pieces
of drywall for drying slabs. Storing them there means they're close when I
need them.
Remember studying the work triangle in a kitchen? You know, when you took
home ec in high school? LOL Well, I figured out what my work triangle is
for my studio, and I have a work bench next to my slab roller. Sort of
parallel. That way, when I roll a slab, I reach under and grab a piece of
drywall to flip the slab onto, and turn to one side and the table is right
there to work on.
Last thing - somehow, I ended up with an extra set of stacking plastic
containers that our city uses for recycling. They're lightweight and strong,
and big. I made a small rolling cart that these sit on, and store all my
pails of glazes in them. I keep the glazes I don't use much on the bottom,
and my favorites on top. The whole thing rolls into a corner when I don't
need them.
I have TONS of small studio tips.... and my last studio was nearly 3000
square feet and it still felt small to me! I built storage lofts, lumber
racks, and so on. If you have a question about something specific, please
feel free to ask away.
Jamie in Vegas
Patrick Cross on thu 24 apr 08
OH!.. I just had another idea...
Have you ever noticed how they store patient files in doctor's or dentist's
offices? ...Shelves set on tracks... that just simply roll together. On
the end of each shelving unit there's an index of what's stored there so you
just roll the other units out of the way to get to what you want. It would
save tremendously on floor space... AND because most of the shelves are
right in front of the next, it would cut down on stuff collecting dust.
Would take a bit of engineering to make, but really?...how hard could it
be? Pick up a Grainger master catalog...I'm sure everything needed would be
in it.
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Patrick Cross
cone10soda
On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Square Peg Arts
wrote:
> Well, last monday we went down to my future studio and did some demo -
> ripped out all the carpet, got the big barn door to open and began taking
> the wall out that divides the two small rooms. We took some measurements and
> it looks like I have about 330 sq ft of floor space. 1 decent picture window
> and of course the 10' barn door. A small niche, about 5'x 8' that I could
> use as a damp room/greenware/bisque storage area.
>
> Into this space I must put a laguna kickwheel, 24" slab roller, extruder,
> utility sink, glaizing/waxing area, at least one work table for
> slab/handbuilding and clay/tool/raw material storage. Kiln(s) will go
> somewhere outside.
>
> I would love to hear from you all how you make the most of your studio
> space, suggestions and of course the many things I am forgetting about in my
> 3 years away from clay.
> Any and all input will be greatly apreciated!
> Hoping to be able to move equipment in in a couple weeks!
> Thanks!
>
> Cathi Newlin, Angels Camp, Ca
> www.SquarePegArts.com
> yes, that's a straw in my beer.
>
>
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Belinda Willis on fri 25 apr 08
Cathi,
Since you live in California you don't have to worry about freezing
temperatures. I had a 200 sq. ft. studio in Santa Rosa that had no water
and no room for glaze buckets or bags of clay. I kept all glazes outside
and with the use of a garden hose, glazed the pots outside too. Pallets and
a tarp stored bags of clay beside the studio.
My current studio in Texas is 440 sq. ft. and in comparison, it feels as
big as a warehouse! I use only aluminum shelving that has wheels. Here is
the website of the manufacturers and a photo of the sheves:
http://www.metro-wire.com/Metro_Super_Erecta_Shelving.htm#TOP
You can get these at CostCo for about $75 per unit. Since you can space
the shelves however you want with these units, I placed the bottom shelves
15 inches up so boxes are stored directly on the floor and I still have six
shelves to use for storage. After measuring the height of various studio
items and grouping like heights together, I spaced the shelves so virtually
NO space is wasted. All top shelves are at the 6 ft level so I can store
tall items and stackable boxes all the way to the ceiling....altho in
earthquake country you might rethink that one. Using these shelves, I can
place them front to back (rather than side to side) two or three deep, and
then roll out the shelves as needed for easy access. This SUPER compresses
the storage area and leaves as much work space open as possible.
In addition, we put a loft up under the peak of my shed. Its just 4 feet
tall at its highest point but that's enough room to stack plenty of boxes.
Belinda Willis
Austin, TX
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