Overall's on tue 3 jun 08
I've got a commission teapot to make
and the sketch has a gooseneck type spout.
HELP ! ! !
Is a template and cut out slab the only way to
go on this beast?
Kim in Houston
Jeanette Harris on tue 3 jun 08
>I've got a commission teapot to make
>and the sketch has a gooseneck type spout.
>
>HELP ! ! !
>Is a template and cut out slab the only way to
>go on this beast?
>
>Kim in Houston
Hi, Kim,
You can throw a straight spout on the wheel, but make it rather
thick. When the clay sets up a bit, but is still pliable, gently coax
it into the gooseneck shape. (It may take several goes, so throw a
bunch to practice on.) It will take a bit of finesse and it's slow
going because you don't want to overstress the clay at the bends.
Putting support inside will help maintain the shape and strength.
Anything cone shaped for the part that fastens on the pot; a brush
handle or dowel for the pour part.
Sometimes, you have to teach yourself. heh
Cheers,
Jeanette
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Dannon Rhudy on tue 3 jun 08
That's one way. Another is to actually PULL
the spout, like a handle. Then, shape it the
way you want it to look, leave it to dry to almost
leather hard. Cut in half lengthwise, and hollow
it out. Jim Connell, who makes stunning teapots,
does his spouts that way, because he need them
to be very long and slender to fit his pot designs.
Practice a few times - it's not hard to do.
regards
Dannon Rhudy
> I've got a commission teapot to make
> and the sketch has a gooseneck type spout.
>
> HELP ! ! !
> Is a template and cut out slab the only way to
> go on this beast?
Eric Serritella on tue 3 jun 08
Another option is to roll it out on a chopstick or dowel.
Roll out a coil and taper it if you want. Using a chopstick or dowel, push
it in the middle of one end and roll the coil while pushing the chopstick
through. Once through, roll it back and forth to expand it. Roll it both
directions to avoid the spout twisting during firing.
Once it sets up just a little bit, you can shape it. Roll the chopstick on
the outside of the spout while shaping. This will compress the clay as you
form it and keep it strong. Roll along the outer curve and inner curves as
you shape. You can also stick your chopstick and/or dowel inside and coax
the shape along. Use sandpaper to round the end of the chopstick/dowel
first.
Good luck.
Eric
Eric Serritella
528 Sebring Road
Newfield, NY 14867
607-564-7810
www.ericserritella.com
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From: "Overall's"
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Subject: gooseneck spouts
> I've got a commission teapot to make
> and the sketch has a gooseneck type spout.
>
> HELP ! ! !
> Is a template and cut out slab the only way to
> go on this beast?
>
> Kim in Houston
>
>
Eric Serritella
528 Sebring Road
Newfield, NY 14867
607-564-7810
www.ericserritella.com
Overall's on wed 4 jun 08
Thanks for the excellent recommendations!
Dannon, your technique sounds like the one
I can accomplish for now as the pot and lid
were thrown yesterday.
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU ALL
Kim in Houston
Re: gooseneck spouts
That's one way. Another is to actually PULL
the spout, like a handle. Then, shape it the
way you want it to look, leave it to dry to almost
leather hard. Cut in half lengthwise, and hollow
it out. Jim Connell, who makes stunning teapots,
does his spouts that way, because he need them
to be very long and slender to fit his pot designs.
Practice a few times - it's not hard to do.
regards
Dannon Rhudy
Dannon Rhudy on wed 4 jun 08
Well, good, hope it helps. Make several,
though. Easy to break when hollowing out.
regards
Dannon Rhudy
> Dannon, your technique sounds like the one
> I can accomplish
KATHI LESUEUR on wed 4 jun 08
On Jun 3, 2008, at 6:30 PM, Overall's wrote:
> I've got a commission teapot to make
> and the sketch has a gooseneck type spout.
>
> HELP ! ! !
> Is a template and cut out slab the only way to
> go on this beast?
>
> Kim in Houston
Not to rain on your parade, but why does anyone take a commission of
something they don't know how to make. You'll loose money just
spending time trying to fill this order.
Kathi
>
gayle bair on wed 4 jun 08
On the plus side Kathi,
It'll be a very steep learning curve at best
& second best the veritable slap of the 2x4.
Either case results in knowledge.
Gayle Bair
Tucson AZ
Bainbridge Island WA
gayle@claybair.com
www.claybair.com
On Jun 4, 2008, at 1:24 PM, KATHI LESUEUR wrote:
> On Jun 3, 2008, at 6:30 PM, Overall's wrote:
>> I've got a commission teapot to make
>> and the sketch has a gooseneck type spout.
>>
>> HELP ! ! !
>
> Not to rain on your parade, but why does anyone take a commission of
> something they don't know how to make. You'll loose money just
> spending time trying to fill this order.
>
> Kathi
>>
Rogier Donker on wed 4 jun 08
Hey Kim :-)
So you really want to go there , eh? ;-) This from the guy who'se
been playing in the mud for a while...
It IS possible to throw a gooseneck teapot spout , but it is a B... ...
Off the hump throw a long (tall if you will) tapered spout as per
normal but make it taller than usual and taller then what you think
you need. When the shape is not quite leather hard cut it into three
pieces. Make your cuts at an angle and then re-assemble the thing
"backwards" to create the goose neck. Lots of slip (scoring,if you
must, but not really necessary if you catch the pre-leather hard
stage just right....) A little pull here, a little pull there (yes,
like pulling a handle...) and you've got your goose neck. Like I said
it's a B.... to make.... Don't settle for your first attempt... make
several.... experience will teach you how to do it right...When all
else fails use the slab method or draw a mold off a plastocene
master....
Have fun.... ;-)
Rogier
P.S. See us on the web at http://www.donkerstudio.org
Subject: gooseneck spouts
I've got a commission teapot to make
and the sketch has a gooseneck type spout.
HELP ! ! !
Is a template and cut out slab the only way to
go on this beast?
Kim in Houston
Overall's on thu 5 jun 08
Kathi,
It's a combination of things like Lili said
(courage and naive); but mostly I'm so
happy to be back in production.
The last half of 2007 I went through four
family deaths in five months.
The first half of 2008 I took on the job as
Texas Gun Collectors Association Secretary
(to assist my husband as President). I had
to learn, mess up and figure out how to process
seven hundred gun collectors memberships in
a software program I knew nothing about.
I finally got back into production after almost a year
and it feels SO good to have the kiln fired again.
Glazes, meh.
I've been studying what size, shape, design salt
kiln to build as my first brick kiln to get me through
the glaze-oidal period which eventually allows me
to hear the roar again of my rinky dink Olympic
cone ten kiln.
A gooseneck spout is nothing compared to
a bunch of gun collectors and funerals.
www.tgca.net
I'm smiling again.
Stupid, but smiling.
I'll post images later.
Kim in Houston
Re: gooseneck spouts
On Jun 3, 2008, at 6:30 PM, Overall's wrote:
> I've got a commission teapot to make
> and the sketch has a gooseneck type spout.
>
> HELP ! ! !
> Is a template and cut out slab the only way to
> go on this beast?
>
> Kim in Houston
Not to rain on your parade, but why does anyone take a commission of
something they don't know how to make. You'll loose money just
spending time trying to fill this order.
Kathi
Des & Jan Howard on thu 5 jun 08
Kathi
I take commissions like that all the time. It gives me twin challenges,
technique & form. Leaving the comfort zone of established workshop
procedures & stock lines can be frustrating but invigorating.
Pottery is my passion & hobby as well as my 40 year profession.
Des
KATHI LESUEUR wrote:
> Not to rain on your parade, but why does anyone take a commission of
> something they don't know how to make. You'll loose money just
> spending time trying to fill this order.
KATHI LESUEUR on sun 8 jun 08
On Jun 5, 2008, at 11:15 PM, Overall's wrote:
> Kathi,
>
> It's a combination of things like Lili said
> (courage and naive); but mostly I'm so
> happy to be back in production.
It's not that I'm opposed to trying new things. It's just that I
avoid taking orders for things I don't know how to make. For me, the
time to learn a new technique is when I'm not under pressure to fill
an order.
Kathi
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