Lili Krakowski on fri 6 jun 08
I am totally with John Britt here. Glaze recipes are to be shared, to be
handed out on streetcorners.
Maybe just maybe someone has a glaze with a mystery ingredient. (unlikely
but who knows) and she does not want to share.
But by and large, as glazes belong to very clear families you can bet that,
unless you are a total novice, you already own that recipe in a slightly
different form.
Today, with digital kilns, it is probably possible that someone will share
the recipe but not a firing schedule. That I think is fair.
Because the digital kiln thing is new, and people are working out what will
be common knowledge in a few years.
Lili Krakowski
Be of good courage
Maurice Weitman on sat 7 jun 08
Greetings folks. I thought it would be swell to write something to
the list about clay, not listserv. It's been a while. Since I'm
packing like mad and trying to take care of hundreds of other things
before our move, this may well be near the end of my posts here for a
month or so. If I had any sense or self-control, it will be. We'll
see.
At 22:41 -0400 on 6/6/08, Lili Krakowski wrote:
>Today, with digital kilns, it is probably possible that someone will share
>the recipe but not a firing schedule. That I think is fair.
Since Lili, as is her wont, has neglected to use the original subject
header or quote anything from whatever it was that stimulated her to
send her message to us, I might be barking up the wrong recipe, but I
will assume she's responding to mudduck's query.
I'm sure Lili has thought and written about recipes a hundred times
more than I have or likely will, but I strongly disagree with this...
not the "fair" part, more about what constitutes a recipe. At least
in the sense that mudduck's original query used.
Ignoring (or not) the cooking (as in food) analogy, a glaze recipe
that is merely a list of ingredients and their proportions is not
very informative without many other variables revealed.
So if you want to call an ingredient list or formula a recipe, go
ahead, but you are being imprecise, maybe even overly glib.
In this case, mudduck wants an Aerni recipe (and/or technique -- a
straight line if I ever saw one). If mudduck is given the glaze
formula without the application methods, clay body (at least type),
firing atmosphere, let alone the firing schedule, I'd bet anyone a
rainbow boa that mudduck's result would NEVER match the pot being
drooled over.
I've seen how guru Aerni glazes his pots and I know the care he's
taken and the years of tweaking and sweat it has taken to achieve his
stellar results.
>Because the digital kiln thing is new, and people are working out what will
>be common knowledge in a few years.
I don't understand that at all, but that's okay.
Regards,
Maurice
floydbhale on sun 8 jun 08
In respectful response to Mel, John Britt, Lili, regarding the
appropriateness of requesting glaze recipes (as opposed to sharing
one' own, or modifying and sharing, or describing results of testing
them...
I agree that the evolution of Clayart in more recent years has moved
away from being a recipe bazaar (or barter) site. I have searched the
archives successfully many times for types of glazes I have needed,
since I don't yet have the expertise to develop my own (give me
time). I wouldn't ordinarily feel the need to request a recipe via a
new post.
However, for now, one should not discourage amateur potters from
requesting specific recipes they may need until the archives are fixed
and can be efficiently searched once again!
Floyd Hale
John Sankey on mon 9 jun 08
No matter what the problems with the archives, the glaze database is still
up at
http://sankey.ws/glazedata.html
with a mirror at
http://web.ncf.ca/bf250/glazedata.html
Ask there first!
A reminder, that if you use any of the recipes in it, a comment on the
results would be appreciated either directly to me or via the list. The
reviews by users are the most important part of it, to help separate the
reliable from the unreliable in particular.
John Sankey
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