Randall Moody on tue 17 jun 08
Personally I prefer the light box set up or a background with a
"thunder grey" backdrop. There is too much distracting information in
the background if you set your pot on a stump or some such. There is
also a perceived level of professionalism in the use of a photographic
background.
If you like the lighting that natural light affords you can set up
your background or even your EZ-cube outside. If you don't have the
light box you can shoot on a slightly overcast day and that will take
care of the majority of shadows and hot spots. The purpose of a
backdrop is to remove the surroundings and allow the viewer to focus
on the object alone.
--Randall in Atlanta
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Mike wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Lately I've been trying to solve the problem of lighting with my photo
> setup. Then one day recently I just thought I'd try shooting outside in
> the natural sunlight. What a difference, the colors in the ware come out
> so much more, and the glare is not too much of a problem if I shoot from
> the right angle.
Digital Studio on tue 17 jun 08
I just got a gradient printed as large as was possible at my local
printer. I set it up with the dark end away from me taped to a wall
under a window. That way, I could use a heavy sheet of white paper to
reflect the light as I needed. No fancy box or lights, just natural
lighting. Check out my Flickr for the pictures:
www.flickr.com/digitalstudio
Randall Moody wrote:
> Personally I prefer the light box set up or a background with a
> "thunder grey" backdrop. There is too much distracting information in
> the background if you set your pot on a stump or some such. There is
> also a perceived level of professionalism in the use of a photographic
> background.
>
> If you like the lighting that natural light affords you can set up
> your background or even your EZ-cube outside. If you don't have the
> light box you can shoot on a slightly overcast day and that will take
> care of the majority of shadows and hot spots. The purpose of a
> backdrop is to remove the surroundings and allow the viewer to focus
> on the object alone.
>
> --Randall in Atlanta
>
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Mike wrote:
>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> Lately I've been trying to solve the problem of lighting with my photo
>> setup. Then one day recently I just thought I'd try shooting outside in
>> the natural sunlight. What a difference, the colors in the ware come out
>> so much more, and the glare is not too much of a problem if I shoot from
>> the right angle.
>>
>
>
>
--
Kendra Bogert
www.digital-studio.biz
641-208-6253
Hollis on tue 17 jun 08
I agree with Randall on this. Look around at pottery websites and see
if you find any that appear professional and also shoot their images
outdoors. There may be some - and I apologize if I've missed them - but
clear, soft lighting with no harsh hot spots or black shadows and
especially with no distracting background say "this person is a
professional." I've seen bedsheets in the background of some outdoor
images, lawns, porch railings, trees, cars, neighbors' houses, lawn
chairs. The point is to clearly show the pot and nothing but the pot.
The kit that I use came from Porter's Camera Store
(porterscamerastore.com) in Wisconsin. I use one tungsten light with an
umbrella and a graduated (white to black) rolled background. It works
great and takes only a few minutes to set up. With today's autofocus
and auto-exposure digital cameras, you don't need anything more than
that.
Hollis Engley
Hatchville Pottery
E. Falmouth, MA
hatchvillepottery.com
On Jun 17, 2008, at 10:01 AM, Randall Moody wrote:
> Personally I prefer the light box set up or a background with a
> "thunder grey" backdrop. There is too much distracting information in
> the background if you set your pot on a stump or some such. There is
> also a perceived level of professionalism in the use of a photographic
> background.
>
> If you like the lighting that natural light affords you can set up
> your background or even your EZ-cube outside. If you don't have the
> light box you can shoot on a slightly overcast day and that will take
> care of the majority of shadows and hot spots. The purpose of a
> backdrop is to remove the surroundings and allow the viewer to focus
> on the object alone.
>
> --Randall in Atlanta
>
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Mike wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> Lately I've been trying to solve the problem of lighting with my photo
>> setup. Then one day recently I just thought I'd try shooting outside
>> in
>> the natural sunlight. What a difference, the colors in the ware come
>> out
>> so much more, and the glare is not too much of a problem if I shoot
>> from
>> the right angle.
>
Mike on tue 17 jun 08
Hello Everyone,
Lately I've been trying to solve the problem of lighting with my photo
setup. Then one day recently I just thought I'd try shooting outside in
the natural sunlight. What a difference, the colors in the ware come out
so much more, and the glare is not too much of a problem if I shoot from
the right angle. I've found that I much prefer this over the light box
setup. I think the right outdoor background adds atmosphere where the
light box backdrop doesn't. I also find that when I'm shopping online, I
tend to gravitate to the non-light box, natural background photos as well.
What are your thoughts on this? When you are shopping, do you prefer
either one over the other when you are viewing potential purchases? If
so, why?
Just curious,
Mike
--
Mike
in Taku, Japan
www.karatsupots.com
karatsupots.etsy.com
karatsupots.blogspot.com
blogs.yahoo.co.jp/karatsupots
Jennifer Boyer on fri 20 jun 08
My experience is that full spectrum (not grow light) florescent bulbs
provide a more accurate color with the default setting of a digital
camera. Tungsten bulbs were made to be used with 35mm film cameras
using special tungsten film. Since I use a white glaze on some of my
pots I see the inaccuracies right away.
Tabletop Studios has info on these bulbs, but their prices are
expensive:
http://www.tabletopstudio.com/documents/TTS_LIGHT_MYTHS.htm
1000 bulbs has the best prices I've found so far:
http://www.1000bulbs.com/
Jennifer
On Jun 17, 2008, at 1:08 PM, Hollis wrote:
> I agree with Randall on this. Look around at pottery websites and see
> if you find any that appear professional and also shoot their images
> outdoors. There may be some - and I apologize if I've missed them -
> but
> clear, soft lighting with no harsh hot spots or black shadows and
> especially with no distracting background say "this person is a
> professional." I've seen bedsheets in the background of some outdoor
> images, lawns, porch railings, trees, cars, neighbors' houses, lawn
> chairs. The point is to clearly show the pot and nothing but the pot.
> The kit that I use came from Porter's Camera Store
> (porterscamerastore.com) in Wisconsin. I use one tungsten light with
> an
> umbrella and a graduated (white to black) rolled background. It works
> great and takes only a few minutes to set up. With today's autofocus
> and auto-exposure digital cameras, you don't need anything more than
> that.
> Hollis Engley
> Hatchville Pottery
> E. Falmouth, MA
> hatchvillepottery.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 17, 2008, at 10:01 AM, Randall Moody wrote:
>
>> Personally I prefer the light box set up or a background with a
>> "thunder grey" backdrop. There is too much distracting information in
>> the background if you set your pot on a stump or some such. There is
>> also a perceived level of professionalism in the use of a
>> photographic
>> background.
>>
>> If you like the lighting that natural light affords you can set up
>> your background or even your EZ-cube outside. If you don't have the
>> light box you can shoot on a slightly overcast day and that will take
>> care of the majority of shadows and hot spots. The purpose of a
>> backdrop is to remove the surroundings and allow the viewer to focus
>> on the object alone.
>>
>> --Randall in Atlanta
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Mike wrote:
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>
>>> Lately I've been trying to solve the problem of lighting with my
>>> photo
>>> setup. Then one day recently I just thought I'd try shooting outside
>>> in
>>> the natural sunlight. What a difference, the colors in the ware come
>>> out
>>> so much more, and the glare is not too much of a problem if I shoot
>>> from
>>> the right angle.
>>
***************************
Jennifer Boyer
Thistle Hill Pottery
Montpelier, VT
http://thistlehillpottery.com
http://jboyerdesign.com
http://artisanshand.com
***************************
Steve Slatin on fri 27 jun 08
Many digital cameras have the ability
to set the white balance, and most have
at least a preset level for fluorescent
or tungsten lighting. Sometimes, it's
expressed as degrees kelvin or something
similar.
Using the preset levels (sometimes
marked as the 'snapshot' setting)
will generally be an adjustment
for outdoor shots with sunlight
color adjustment.
Steve Slatin
--- On Fri, 6/27/08, Anne Webb wrote:
> From: Anne Webb
> Subject: Re: Photo Style Preferences
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 5:54 AM
> Hi Jennifer.
> I agree, that "daylight" is best for truest color
> with a digital camera.
Anne Webb on fri 27 jun 08
Hi Jennifer.
I agree, that "daylight" is best for truest color with a digital camera. Mo=
st other kinds of light seems to cause the internal light meter in a digita=
l cam to make some less than desireable color adjustments.
I found an even better price on daylight compact flourescents on ebay 4 x 4=
5W 5500K bulbs for $35, vs $12.95 for a comparable bulb. Sorry hotmail's no=
t letting me post a url, but a similar listing is eBay item #270217148248
If you'd prefer the actual url, just contact me off list.
I also found the vinyl graduated backdrop that works the best for most glaz=
es is the one that goes white to dark grey (almost black).=20
All the best
Anne
> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:19:55 -0400
> From: vtpots@GMAIL.COM
> Subject: Re: Photo Style Preferences
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>=20
> My experience is that full spectrum (not grow light) florescent bulbs
> provide a more accurate color with the default setting of a digital
> camera. Tungsten bulbs were made to be used with 35mm film cameras
> using special tungsten film. Since I use a white glaze on some of my
> pots I see the inaccuracies right away.
>=20
> Tabletop Studios has info on these bulbs, but their prices are
> expensive:
> http://www.tabletopstudio.com/documents/TTS_LIGHT_MYTHS.htm
>=20
> 1000 bulbs has the best prices I've found so far:
> http://www.1000bulbs.com/
> Jennifer
>=20
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Lois Ruben Aronow on fri 27 jun 08
Daylight may give "truest" color, but not necessarily "awesome-est" color.
When photographing your work, you want to bring out the best in it, which is
not necessarily the mst natural.
One dimension of photography that is rarely mentioned here is angle. Posing
your work is a whole skill unto itself. Like faces, some pots have better
"sides" or angles. Knowing the difference can make or break your photos.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of Anne Webb
> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 8:55 AM
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Subject: Re: Photo Style Preferences
>
> Hi Jennifer.
> I agree, that "daylight" is best for truest color with a
> digital camera. Most other kinds of light seems to cause the
> internal light meter in a digital cam to make some less than
> desireable color adjustments.
> I found an even better price on daylight compact flourescents
> on ebay 4 x 45W 5500K bulbs for $35, vs $12.95 for a
> comparable bulb. Sorry hotmail's not letting me post a url,
> but a similar listing is eBay item #270217148248 If you'd
> prefer the actual url, just contact me off list.
>
> I also found the vinyl graduated backdrop that works the best
> for most glazes is the one that goes white to dark grey
> (almost black).
>
> All the best
> Anne
>
> > Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:19:55 -0400
> > From: vtpots@GMAIL.COM
> > Subject: Re: Photo Style Preferences
> > To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> >
> > My experience is that full spectrum (not grow light)
> florescent bulbs
> > provide a more accurate color with the default setting of a digital
> > camera. Tungsten bulbs were made to be used with 35mm film cameras
> > using special tungsten film. Since I use a white glaze on
> some of my
> > pots I see the inaccuracies right away.
> >
> > Tabletop Studios has info on these bulbs, but their prices are
> > expensive:
> > http://www.tabletopstudio.com/documents/TTS_LIGHT_MYTHS.htm
> >
> > 1000 bulbs has the best prices I've found so far:
> > http://www.1000bulbs.com/
> > Jennifer
> >
>
>
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