Steve Slatin on sun 20 jul 08
Barbara --
I use a mix of 50 rutile, 50 frit 3134 to get a
gold fleck effect over floating blue. I never
tried it over a tenmoku (though I have a recipe
for a tenmoku that gives you gold flecks without
any additives). I should think it would depend
on the formulation of your tenmoku, firing temp,
etc.
Steve Slatin --
--- On Sun, 7/20/08, Barbara Brown wrote:
> From: Barbara Brown
> Subject: gold on temmoku
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 10:21 AM
> Some one sent in the idea of using rutile and frit 3134 and
> putting it over temmoku to make gold. No recipe was given
> so I need to know how much of each. I don't have frit
> 3134 but have frit 3124, would that work?
> Barbara
>
> Barbara Brown
> 1225 Manzano Way
> Sunnyvale, Ca 94089
> 408-736-3889 phone/fax
> bbrown3@webtv.net
> www.barbarabrownclayart.com
Steve Dalton on sun 20 jul 08
I've always used straight rutile on temmoko. I'm sure though it all depends on the temp you fire to. I go up to 2400.
Steve Dalton
Clear Creek Pottery
Snohomish, WA
potteryguy.biz
clearcreekpottery.etsy.com
--- On Sun, 7/20/08, Barbara Brown wrote:
> From: Barbara Brown
> Subject: gold on temmoku
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
> Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008, 10:21 AM
> Some one sent in the idea of using rutile and frit 3134 and
> putting it over temmoku to make gold. No recipe was given
> so I need to know how much of each. I don't have frit
> 3134 but have frit 3124, would that work?
> Barbara
>
> Barbara Brown
> 1225 Manzano Way
> Sunnyvale, Ca 94089
> 408-736-3889 phone/fax
> bbrown3@webtv.net
> www.barbarabrownclayart.com
Paul Lewing on sun 20 jul 08
On Jul 20, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Barbara Brown wrote:
Some one sent in the idea of using rutile and frit 3134 and putting
it over temmoku to make gold. No recipe was given so I need to know
how much of each. I don't have frit 3134 but have frit 3124, would
that work?
The proportions aren't critical, but about half and half should do
it. I'd use 3134 rather than 3124, because 3124 has alumina and 3134
doesn't.
Paul Lewing
www.paullewingtile.com
Craig Martell on sun 20 jul 08
Barbara was asking:
>Some one sent in the idea of using rutile and frit 3134 and putting it
>over temmoku to make gold. No recipe was given so I need to know how much
>of each. I don't have frit 3134 but have frit 3124, would that work?
Hello Barbara Brown:
Here's a recipe that I use a lot. It gives a rich gold with crystals.
Rutile/Iron Over or Underglaze (cone 9-10 R or Ox.)
Red Iron Oxide #4686 25%
Rutile 25%
Ferro Frit 3134 10%
J-2 Ball Clay 40%
Anyone using this in oxidation might need some more frit as the iron will
not help flux the stain as it will in reduction. I use frit 3134 because
you get more bang for your dollar in terms of fluxing agents but one could
certainly try 3124. Also, J-2 Ball Clay is a Kentucky-Tennessee Clay Co.
product. Another ball would probably work just fine if you don't have
J-2. The high ball clay content keeps the stain from going into suspension
and giving weak results with high spar/whiting glazes like celadons and
tenmokus.
That's about it from the Peanut Gallery, Craig Martell still in Hopewell,
Oregon
Suchman ceramics on sun 20 jul 08
Hi Barbara,I used to mix rutile and colemanite 50/50, called it 'gold dust'.
At ^10 it left gold streaks over tenmoku. It worked nicely on other glazes
as well. I'm guessing that the 3134 is the sub for the colemanite.
Best,
Eric in Oceanside
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Barbara Brown wrote:
> Some one sent in the idea of using rutile and frit 3134 and putting it over
> temmoku to make gold. No recipe was given so I need to know how much of
> each. I don't have frit 3134 but have frit 3124, would that work?
> Barbara
>
> Barbara Brown
> 1225 Manzano Way
> Sunnyvale, Ca 94089
> 408-736-3889 phone/fax
> bbrown3@webtv.net
> www.barbarabrownclayart.com
>
June on sun 20 jul 08
50/50 by weight rutile and frit (Frit 3134 or Frit 3124 should work fine). Make it watercolor consistency.
I have a lot of oxide wash recipes on my web page. Just follow the technical links and it will eventually take you to a page with links for oxide wash and other glaze recipes,etc.
Regards,
June
http://www.shambhalapottery.com
http://shambhalapottery.blogspot.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sodasaltfiring/
----- Original Message ----
From: Barbara Brown
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 1:21:06 PM
Subject: gold on temmoku
Some one sent in the idea of using rutile and frit 3134 and putting it over temmoku to make gold. No recipe was given so I need to know how much of each. I don't have frit 3134 but have frit 3124, would that work?
Barbara
Barbara Brown
1225 Manzano Way
Sunnyvale, Ca 94089
408-736-3889 phone/fax
bbrown3@webtv.net
www.barbarabrownclayart.com
Barbara Brown on sun 20 jul 08
Some one sent in the idea of using rutile and frit 3134 and putting it ov=
er temmoku to make gold. No recipe was given so I need to know how much =
of each. I don't have frit 3134 but have frit 3124, would that work?
Barbara
Barbara Brown
1225 Manzano Way
Sunnyvale, Ca 94089
408-736-3889 phone/fax
bbrown3@webtv.net
www.barbarabrownclayart.com
Ingeborg Foco on mon 21 jul 08
Hi Barbara,
I use 50/50 rutile and gerstley borate. Don't brush on too thick as it will
bubble or blister. I fire to cone 10 and it adds a nice touch.
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Barbara Brown wrote:
> Some one sent in the idea of using rutile and frit 3134 and putting it over
> temmoku to make gold. No recipe was given so I need to know how much of
> each. I don't have frit 3134 but have frit 3124, would that work?
> Barbara
>
>
> --
> Sincerely,
>
> Ingeborg
>
> www.thepottersworkshop.com
Des & Jan Howard on mon 21 jul 08
Barbara & Steve
We add 10% rutile to our temmoku glaze, then use this over the base
temmoku. It is more 'golden' at the upper range for the temmoku.
Des
--
Des & Jan Howard
Lue Pottery
Lue NSW
Australia
2850
02 6373 6419
Peter Coates on tue 22 jul 08
I use 50% rutile and 50% Gerstly Borate by weight... it can be used on
other glazes also... over copper red and celadon it makes a rutile
blue effect... gold on temmoku and tomato glazes... try it
Peter Coates
Oklahoma City
On Jul 20, 2008, at 12:21 PM, Barbara Brown wrote:
> Some one sent in the idea of using rutile and frit 3134 and putting
> it over temmoku to make gold. No recipe was given so I need to know
> how much of each. I don't have frit 3134 but have frit 3124, would
> that work?
> Barbara
>
> Barbara Brown
> 1225 Manzano Way
> Sunnyvale, Ca 94089
> 408-736-3889 phone/fax
> bbrown3@webtv.net
> www.barbarabrownclayart.com
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