Antoinette Badenhorst on sun 24 aug 08
Wayne! You become expensive $0.03 Huu... no 2 cents anymore? This is an excellent idea.
Let's ask a few questions:
How will we choose the shape or should we rather limit the size and allow different shapes?
Do we put it in a box or ask for a 'finished" presentation?
Will the pieces stand or hang on the wall or both?
Will it make provision for even chances for all Clayarters without forcing them into a different style?
Will it make provision for commercial as well as self- made glazes?
Will we strictly judge it by it's glaze or will we take other things like design and originality into consideration?
I bet there are more questions to be asked.......
--
Antoinette Badenhorst
www.clayandcanvas.com
www.studiopottery.co.uk
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: W J Seidl
> I know it's not novel. It's been done many many times, but here's an
> idea...
> what about a "mimic" show of sorts, of something akin to the Orton Cone
> Box show?
> Call it "The Sincerest Form of Flattery" or something.
>
> Criteria for entry would be a box or similar shape, of specific dimensions
> decorated strictly with artist's choice of cone 6 glaze, embellishments
> up to the individual?
>
> Having, say 100 + pieces of all the same shape and size but vastly
> differing in finish, color, firing technique
> etc. would certainly be something to see.
>
> Just my $0.03
>
> Best,
> Wayne Seidl
>
>
> Antoinette Badenhorst wrote:
> > SNIP FOR SPACE
> We started with cyber clay shows now; one on, one off. How do we move forward
> from here on? Clearly we did not meet the expectations with the last show,
> whether it was another cyberclay show too soon on top of the previous one, or
> whether it was too similar to the previous one or whatever may be the reason.
> Fact is we should move on to the next position from here on. How will we do
> that?
>
> > If I just think of how many times ^6 glazes were discussed on clayart, I can
> immediately see a show just on cone 6 glazes......
> >
W J Seidl on mon 25 aug 08
Antoinette:
Inflation being what it is these days, I figured everyone else is
raising their prices, so it's now three cents for unsolicited advice .
Please note that I am not limiting here, just throwing other
considerations into the mix.
Personally your comment "will it make provision for even chances for all
Clayarters..." bothered me some.
Back in ceramics 101, we all learned how to make a slab box. You
remember, it was just after pinch pots. (Gawds, I just found the first
one I ever did!)
I thought that the box being the most basic of shapes would suit. Most
everyone can make a box almost in their sleep, even "wheel" potters.
This gives everyone, even rank newbies, an equal footing. I would
propose a simple cube box shape, of a size being 6 inches from edge to
edge. Everyone's the same, clay, decoration, alteration, glaze,
orientation all of the artist's choice.
For those who use commercial glazes, this gives them a 6 sided palette.
For self-made glazes, variations in thickness and application become the
decorating forces. For wood-firers, the box allows for flashing and
flame path exposure, ash on one side, not another...totally variable
results.
For carvers, piercers and sculptors, again, a six sided palette.
Obviously, design and originality have to come into play, since limits
are being imposed on the size and shape of the object.
Since the Mayor proposed the Clayart Room, I would think that display on
a table or two or three would suffice, with each presenter bringing what
(s)he thinks appropriate for display. For the most inexpensive route, a
simple cardboard box with aluminum foil wrap can work as a pedestal, or
some fabric.
(Hotels sometimes get "cranky" when you start hanging things on the
walls of "their" conference rooms, so I propose table top display.)
The piece should stand alone, I think, to more even the playing field.
A boxed presentation can often draw attention to the manner in which the
piece is presented, and it's the piece itself we're focusing on, isn't it?
Now, do we allow multiples? Say an artist wanted to do a series of one
inch cubes (216) that when placed together would equal the six inch
cube. Would that be allowed? How about inclusions of mixed media, as
long as more than 50% (say) were clay and they kept to the size and
shape requirements?
Choices are endless.
Best,
Wayne
Antoinette Badenhorst wrote:
> Wayne! You become expensive $0.03 Huu... no 2 cents anymore? This is an excellent idea.
>
> Let's ask a few questions:
>
> How will we choose the shape or should we rather limit the size and allow different shapes?
> Do we put it in a box or ask for a 'finished" presentation?
> Will the pieces stand or hang on the wall or both?
> Will it make provision for even chances for all Clayarters without forcing them into a different style?
> Will it make provision for commercial as well as self- made glazes?
> Will we strictly judge it by it's glaze or will we take other things like design and originality into consideration?
>
> I bet there are more questions to be asked.......
>
> --
> Antoinette Badenhorst
> www.clayandcanvas.com
> www.studiopottery.co.uk
>
Antoinette Badenhorst on mon 25 aug 08
Wayne, I buy your idea; for a full $0.03! I have 2 more questions: Do we do it at Clayart Room 2009 or Clayart Room 2010? If we do the ^6 in a box, may we still bring our regular entry?
Of cause it will not disqualify those that just want to show their regular style work; right? This is just an addition to the familiar way.
Mayor Mel......will this idea fit into the overall idea in the clayart room?
Anyone else saying yes or no?
--
Antoinette Badenhorst
www.clayandcanvas.com
www.studiopottery.co.uk
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: W J Seidl
> Antoinette:
> Inflation being what it is these days, I figured everyone else is
> raising their prices, so it's now three cents for unsolicited advice .
>
> Please note that I am not limiting here, just throwing other
> considerations into the mix.
>
> Personally your comment "will it make provision for even chances for all
> Clayarters..." bothered me some.
> Back in ceramics 101, we all learned how to make a slab box. You
> remember, it was just after pinch pots. (Gawds, I just found the first
> one I ever did!)
> I thought that the box being the most basic of shapes would suit. Most
> everyone can make a box almost in their sleep, even "wheel" potters.
> This gives everyone, even rank newbies, an equal footing. I would
> propose a simple cube box shape, of a size being 6 inches from edge to
> edge. Everyone's the same, clay, decoration, alteration, glaze,
> orientation all of the artist's choice.
>
> For those who use commercial glazes, this gives them a 6 sided palette.
> For self-made glazes, variations in thickness and application become the
> decorating forces. For wood-firers, the box allows for flashing and
> flame path exposure, ash on one side, not another...totally variable
> results.
> For carvers, piercers and sculptors, again, a six sided palette.
> Obviously, design and originality have to come into play, since limits
> are being imposed on the size and shape of the object.
>
> Since the Mayor proposed the Clayart Room, I would think that display on
> a table or two or three would suffice, with each presenter bringing what
> (s)he thinks appropriate for display. For the most inexpensive route, a
> simple cardboard box with aluminum foil wrap can work as a pedestal, or
> some fabric.
> (Hotels sometimes get "cranky" when you start hanging things on the
> walls of "their" conference rooms, so I propose table top display.)
>
> The piece should stand alone, I think, to more even the playing field.
> A boxed presentation can often draw attention to the manner in which the
> piece is presented, and it's the piece itself we're focusing on, isn't it?
>
> Now, do we allow multiples? Say an artist wanted to do a series of one
> inch cubes (216) that when placed together would equal the six inch
> cube. Would that be allowed? How about inclusions of mixed media, as
> long as more than 50% (say) were clay and they kept to the size and
> shape requirements?
>
> Choices are endless.
>
> Best,
> Wayne
>
>
> Antoinette Badenhorst wrote:
> > Wayne! You become expensive $0.03 Huu... no 2 cents anymore? This is an
> excellent idea.
> >
> > Let's ask a few questions:
> >
> > How will we choose the shape or should we rather limit the size and allow
> different shapes?
> > Do we put it in a box or ask for a 'finished" presentation?
> > Will the pieces stand or hang on the wall or both?
> > Will it make provision for even chances for all Clayarters without forcing
> them into a different style?
> > Will it make provision for commercial as well as self- made glazes?
> > Will we strictly judge it by it's glaze or will we take other things like
> design and originality into consideration?
> >
> > I bet there are more questions to be asked.......
> >
> > --
> > Antoinette Badenhorst
> > www.clayandcanvas.com
> > www.studiopottery.co.uk
> >
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