Jim Kasper on mon 1 sep 08
Ceramic Arts Discussion ListHi Lee,
What jumps out at me is .... "I Cringe" ....
I definitely respect what you say, and I feel that I understand your
meaning. That said, I think that at some point you will not cringe when
someone says the wheel is just a tool.
I operate a Gallery and studio in a tourist area. Many fine local painters,
photographers and even the pottery of a few friends. It has become necessary
that I understand that I am not demeaned by the ignorant statements made by
browsers. One of the Joys of what I do is the chance to offer education on
a variety of topics, and at the same time many will return the favor and
impart information to me. In addition to the the typical pottery questions,
I often entertain folks with the life cycle of monarchs, introductions to a
variety of odd plants and occasionally, fun with every day physics.
I love the new ( by new , I mean just recently came into my awareness)
pejorative: "You are such a Tool" I am not really sure what it means, but I
do resemble that remark.
....off to throw coasters .............
....first one makes 100 1/3 lb balls of clay.....
Regards.
Jim
Lee says:
>
> " Yes. It really is related to meditation, especially repetitive
> work. That is why I cringe when someone says the wheel is "just" a tool."
>
> - Lee, please tell me why this is so?
"Just a tool" demeans what enables us to do what we do.
Zafka Studios
Jensen Beach, FL
http://zafka.com
772-334-3070
Pat Southwood on mon 1 sep 08
.
Lee,
Oh, come on, away with the pretensions now,
- It is just a tool.
- Albeit one than enables effectivly.
It is not romantic,mystical, religious, or away with the faeries
It is physics.
Most people respect their tools,some dont.
It is what one does with it.
How many carpenters do you hear , when praised on their work exclaim, my saw
enabled me?
Yours,
Pat Southwood.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Kasper"
To:
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: The voice of the Clay Or "Just a tool"
>
> Ceramic Arts Discussion ListHi Lee,
> What jumps out at me is .... "I Cringe" ....
>
> I definitely respect what you say, and I feel that I understand your
> meaning. That said, I think that at some point you will not cringe when
> someone says the wheel is just a tool.
>
> I operate a Gallery and studio in a tourist area. Many fine local
> painters,
> photographers and even the pottery of a few friends. It has become
> necessary
> that I understand that I am not demeaned by the ignorant statements made
> by
> browsers. One of the Joys of what I do is the chance to offer education
> on
> a variety of topics, and at the same time many will return the favor and
> impart information to me. In addition to the the typical pottery
> questions,
> I often entertain folks with the life cycle of monarchs, introductions to
> a
> variety of odd plants and occasionally, fun with every day physics.
>
> I love the new ( by new , I mean just recently came into my awareness)
> pejorative: "You are such a Tool" I am not really sure what it means, but
> I
> do resemble that remark.
>
>
> ....off to throw coasters .............
>
> ....first one makes 100 1/3 lb balls of clay.....
>
>
> Regards.
> Jim
>
> Lee says:
>>
>> " Yes. It really is related to meditation, especially repetitive
>> work. That is why I cringe when someone says the wheel is "just" a tool."
>>
>> - Lee, please tell me why this is so?
>
> "Just a tool" demeans what enables us to do what we do.
>
>
>
> Zafka Studios
> Jensen Beach, FL
> http://zafka.com
> 772-334-3070
>
>
James F on tue 2 sep 08
> How many carpenters do you hear =2C when praised on their work exclaim=2C=
my saw
> enabled me?
Pat...
From what I have read=2C pretty much all of them in Japan. From having bui=
lt a half dozen houses=2C pretty much none of them in the U.S.
Be well.
...James
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pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on tue 2 sep 08
Hi Pat,
Another way to appreciate this, is to start saying "It's just a Pot"
when regarding your own or anyone else's Pottery.
And, to start saying 'Just a Potter' or 'Just a job', or 'Just a way to make
money' when speaking of yourself or anyone else making Pots.
Just a thought...
Phil
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat Southwood"
> .
> Lee,
> Oh, come on, away with the pretensions now,
> - It is just a tool.
> - Albeit one than enables effectivly.
> It is not romantic,mystical, religious, or away with the faeries
> It is physics.
> Most people respect their tools,some dont.
> It is what one does with it.
> How many carpenters do you hear , when praised on their work exclaim, my
> saw
> enabled me?
> Yours,
> Pat Southwood.
Pat Southwood on wed 3 sep 08
Phil,
I am just a potter, and I do just make pots,
- what was your point?
My point was that is how any tool is used, rather than the tool being the
most important thing. and as someone else said, it was the bit about "I
cringe" that offended.-
- semi -intellectualised snobbery.- ?
The reason I still maintain that a wheel is just a tool is because this was
drummed into me as a student.
Regards,
Pat Southwood
Another way to appreciate this, is to start saying "It's just a Pot"
> when regarding your own or anyone else's Pottery.
> And, to start saying 'Just a Potter' or 'Just a job', or 'Just a way to
> make
> money' when speaking of yourself or anyone else making Pots.
James F on wed 3 sep 08
and as someone else said=2C it was the bit about "I
> cringe" that offended.-
> - semi -intellectualised snobbery.- ?
Pat...
Could it be that the comment stemmed from a "spirituality" (as much as I ha=
te that word) that you or I may not share rather than from "semi-intellectu=
al snobbery"?
Perhaps the poster should be given the benefit of the doubt. I personally =
saw no snobbery in the post=2C merely a different perspective.
Be well.
...James
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