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picasso quote: was the voice of the clay or "just a tool" - wuz: pat's observation...but now, more dumplings lolling in history'

updated tue 9 sep 08

 

pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on sun 7 sep 08


Ahhhhh, too bad Picasso missed his chance to issue a counterfeit
'confession' to be attributed to Franco...



Oh well...


...sigh...


Phil
l v





----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Love"

>I think I found some more authoritative sources:
>
> Fake Picasso
>
> "Sir: Robin Simon in his review (Arts, 18 April) repeats Picasso's
> supposed description of himself as `only a joker who had understood
> his epoch and has extracted all he possibly could from the stupidity,
> greed and vanity of his contemporaries'.
>
> The quotation occurs in an 'interview' with an Italian journalist
> named Giovanni Papini. It was published in 1951 in a volume of
> Papini's collected journalism entitled II Libro Nero: Nuovo Diario di
> Gog, a copy of which is in the British Library.
>
> That interview is a notorious fake. According to Pierre Daix, in his
> respected 1977 biography of Picasso, the artist knew about II Libro
> Nero, but ignored it until 1955, when it was used against him by
> Franco's government. Because Picasso was a communist and this was the
> height of the Cold War, it was further disseminated by Nato
> intelligence.
>
> At this point Picasso asked Daix to expose the whole affair, which
> Daix did in a series of articles in Les Lettres franqaises between
> 1962 and 1965. In the biography Daix described the contents of II
> Libro Nero as `imaginary interviews and false confessions'.
>
> Papini was not a fraud, but a journalist who used the literary device
> of the pretend interview to write profiles of famous people, including
> Kafka, Tolstoy, Freud, Molotov, Hitler, Cervantes, Goethe, William
> Blake and Robert Browning. Picasso never met Papini and never said the
> words Papini attributed to him."
>
> http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3724/is_199805/ai_n8802446/pg_2
> --
> Lee Love in Minneapolis
> http://heartclay.blogspot.com/
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>
> "Let the beauty we love be what we do.
> There are hundreds of ways to kneel and kiss the ground." --Rumi

Ric Swenson on mon 8 sep 08


You can be assured...if he had the chance he surely would have had some FUN with you. He was no nebish...if you know what I mean. he was a mensch!



Ric



> > Ahhhhh, too bad Picasso missed his chance to issue a counterfeit> 'confession' to be attributed to Franco...> > > > Oh well...> > > ...sigh...> > > Phil> l v> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----> From: "Lee Love"> > >I think I found some more authoritative sources:> >> > Fake Picasso> >> > "Sir: Robin Simon in his review (Arts, 18 April) repeats Picasso's> > supposed description of himself as `only a joker who had understood> > his epoch and has extracted all he possibly could from the stupidity,> > greed and vanity of his contemporaries'.> >> > The quotation occurs in an 'interview' with an Italian journalist> > named Giovanni Papini. It was published in 1951 in a volume of> > Papini's collected journalism entitled II Libro Nero: Nuovo Diario di> > Gog, a copy of which is in the British Library.> >> > That interview is a notorious fake. According to Pierre Daix, in his> > respected 1977 biography of Picasso, the artist knew about II Libro> > Nero, but ignored it until 1955, when it was used against him by> > Franco's government. Because Picasso was a communist and this was the> > height of the Cold War, it was further disseminated by Nato> > intelligence.> >> > At this point Picasso asked Daix to expose the whole affair, which> > Daix did in a series of articles in Les Lettres franqaises between> > 1962 and 1965. In the biography Daix described the contents of II> > Libro Nero as `imaginary interviews and false confessions'.> >> > Papini was not a fraud, but a journalist who used the literary device> > of the pretend interview to write profiles of famous people, including> > Kafka, Tolstoy, Freud, Molotov, Hitler, Cervantes, Goethe, William> > Blake and Robert Browning. Picasso never met Papini and never said the> > words Papini attributed to him."> >> > http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3724/is_199805/ai_n8802446/pg_2> > --> > Lee Love in Minneapolis> > http://heartclay.blogspot.com/> > http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/> > http://claycraft.blogspot.com/> >> > "Let the beauty we love be what we do.> > There are hundreds of ways to kneel and kiss the ground." --Rumi
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pdp1@EARTHLINK.NET on mon 8 sep 08


Hi Ric,




Well, If we'd been pals, I'd have maybe just 'done' the document for him,
and with his blessing, seen to it that it got issued or 'discovered' or
whatever...

Or we could have worked on it together.

Not all collaborative Art needs to have the Artists names associated with
it, nor even one name associated with it.


Of course...


Lol...


Phil
lv


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ric Swenson"
To:
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: Picasso Quote: was The voice of the Clay Or "Just a tool" -
Wuz: Pat's observation...but now, more Dumplings lolling in History's
Stew...


> You can be assured...if he had the chance he surely would have had some
> FUN with you. He was no nebish...if you know what I mean. he was a
> mensch!
>
>
>
> Ric
>
>
>
>> > Ahhhhh, too bad Picasso missed his chance to issue a counterfeit>
>> > 'confession' to be attributed to Franco...> > > > Oh well...> > >
>> > ...sigh...> > > Phil> l v> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----->
>> > From: "Lee Love"> > >I think I found some more authoritative sources:>
>> > >> > Fake Picasso> >> > "Sir: Robin Simon in his review (Arts, 18
>> > April) repeats Picasso's> > supposed description of himself as `only a
>> > joker who had understood> > his epoch and has extracted all he possibly
>> > could from the stupidity,> > greed and vanity of his contemporaries'.>
>> > >> > The quotation occurs in an 'interview' with an Italian journalist>
>> > > named Giovanni Papini. It was published in 1951 in a volume of> >
>> > Papini's collected journalism entitled II Libro Nero: Nuovo Diario di>
>> > > Gog, a copy of which is in the British Library.> >> > That interview
>> > is a notorious fake. According to Pierre Daix, in his> > respected 1977
>> > biography of Picasso, the artist knew about II Libro> > Nero, but
>> > ignored it until 1955, when it was used against him by> > Franco's
>> > government. Because Picasso was a communist and this was the> > height
>> > of the Cold War, it was further disseminated by Nato> > intelligence.>
>> > >> > At this point Picasso asked Daix to expose the whole affair,
>> > which> > Daix did in a series of articles in Les Lettres franqaises
>> > between> > 1962 and 1965. In the biography Daix described the contents
>> > of II> > Libro Nero as `imaginary interviews and false confessions'.>
>> > >> > Papini was not a fraud, but a journalist who used the literary
>> > device> > of the pretend interview to write profiles of famous people,
>> > including> > Kafka, Tolstoy, Freud, Molotov, Hitler, Cervantes, Goethe,
>> > William> > Blake and Robert Browning. Picasso never met Papini and
>> > never said the> > words Papini attributed to him."> >> >
>> > http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3724/is_199805/ai_n8802446/pg_2>
>> > > --> > Lee Love in Minneapolis> > http://heartclay.blogspot.com/> >
>> > http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/> > http://claycraft.blogspot.com/> >>
>> > > "Let the beauty we love be what we do.> > There are hundreds of ways
>> > to kneel and kiss the ground." --Rumi
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