Lee Love on fri 12 sep 08
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 8:20 PM, Digital Studio
wrote:
> I think if you wanted to have the studio available 24/7, a type of
> keycard that unlocks the ceramics studio would be a good idea.
This is what Northern Clay Center uses.
--
Lee Love in Minneapolis
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http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
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"Let the beauty we love be what we do.
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David McBeth on fri 12 sep 08
I suppose this is a question mostly for the acadenics on the list but =
I'd be interested n any an all thougts on the topic. We are negotiating =
with the building adminstrator to have the art studios opened on the =
weekends when the building is open. What are the policies at your =
school, or what do you remember from your student days about studio =
access and what kinds of problems have you encountered with studio being =
open on the weekends if that is the case?
thanks, and have a good weekend
Dave
David McBeth
330 B Gooch Hall
Department of Visual and Theatre Arts
University of Tennessee at Martin
Martin, Tennessee 38238
731-881-7416
http://davidmcbeth.blogspot.com
DRB Seattle on fri 12 sep 08
David
At U of Oregon in the 70's...
some students had keys.=A0=20
If you were firing you could stay in the building after hours but get locke=
d out (If you could get the cover off an nused chimney block-out you could =
squeeze back in.)
Sales pitch- "Having some one in the building is the best fire insurance wh=
en kilns are firing or cooling..."
DRB
Seattle
--- On Fri, 9/12/08, David McBeth wrote:
From: David McBeth
Subject: question about studio access
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Date: Friday, September 12, 2008, 9:33 AM
I suppose this is a question mostly for the acadenics on the list but I'd b=
e
interested n any an all thougts on the topic. We are negotiating with the
building adminstrator to have the art studios opened on the weekends when t=
he
building is open. What are the policies at your school, or what do you rem=
ember
from your student days about studio access and what kinds of problems have =
you
encountered with studio being open on the weekends if that is the case?
thanks, and have a good weekend
Dave
David McBeth
330 B Gooch Hall
Department of Visual and Theatre Arts
University of Tennessee at Martin
Martin, Tennessee 38238
731-881-7416
http://davidmcbeth.blogspot.com
=0A=0A=0A
John Post on fri 12 sep 08
In one school ceramics studio I worked we found a piece of flat steel
that you could slide up between the loading dock doors and voila, they
would pop open. Then a studio key was left in a locker for any
ceramic student to use. Of course this was all done with the
knowledge of the teacher, but not the knowledge of the school. Not
that I would recommend this either, but it did work for some of us:)
Of course if you were caught inside, you would just claim that one of
the doors to the building was open... and many times they were...
John Post
Sterling Heights, Michigan
:: cone 6 glaze website :: http://www.johnpost.us
:: elementary art website :: http://www.wemakeart.org
On Sep 12, 2008, at 12:33 PM, David McBeth wrote:
> I suppose this is a question mostly for the acadenics on the list
> but I'd be interested n any an all thougts on the topic. We are
> negotiating with the building adminstrator to have the art studios
> opened on the weekends when the building is open. What are the
> policies at your school, or what do you remember from your student
> days about studio access and what kinds of problems have you
> encountered with studio being open on the weekends if that is the
> case?
>
> thanks, and have a good weekend
>
> Dave
>
> David McBeth
> 330 B Gooch Hall
> Department of Visual and Theatre Arts
> University of Tennessee at Martin
> Martin, Tennessee 38238
>
> 731-881-7416
> http://davidmcbeth.blogspot.com
>
Chris Greenman on fri 12 sep 08
When I was in undergrad and grad school the studios were open all day
and all night. I don't remember (surpisingly) any problems. There was
the occasional student wanting to drink in the studio but it seems like
it was discouraged by the majority so any problem soon went away. I
teach now at Alabama State University in Montgomery. I only have
undergrads. Since I started I felt it was necessary that students have
access to the studio at all hours. Prior to me taking over the clay
studio students were not allowed in any time the former instructor was
not there. I thought that was very weird. Anyway my students now have
access to the studio on nights and weekends. IF they find the door
locked to the studio they can get the key from a locker outside the
studio and locked with a combination lock. IF the building is locked,
they have to go down to the campus police and get them to let them (the
students) in the building. Then they get the key from the locker. They
are also to sign in on a sign in sheet in the studio, just so I can keep
track of the system. I have had no problems except for the occasional
bozo who take the key home. With this system the students are made
responsible for their own actions and protection-they can lock
themselves in the studio while they work.
I know that at both Penn State and ASU, security checks that building at
certain times during the evening. I would like to get a combination lock
on the door to the studio.
Good luck! I think it is imperative that students have access to the
studio
Chris Greenman
2446 Le Ruth Ave.
Montgomery, Al 36106
334.264.5710
cgreenman3@knology.net
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cec on fri 12 sep 08
--David-
When i was at the community
college=A0 I had a key....ahh the joys of returning to school as an old
lady...though we did have one young man who crawled through the
basement window. We scared h--l out of each other one weekend. Head of the =
department babysat the dog even those he was a cat person.=20
=A0
In my undergrad days the art studios were open all the time, partly because=
the grad students were there. There were exceptions, at night the clay stu=
dio was only open as long as there were multiple students, or one student a=
nd a dog. But if you left you could not get back in. The foundry, computer =
lab and woo working were only open if a grad student was there, had them ro=
tate schedules. Made sense.=20
Grad school- East Tennessee State, The labs all were open all the time. You=
had to have the combination=A0 to the doors, they changed every semester, =
no grad students required. But no dogs allowed.=20
The community college here in Martinsville, Va...they don't get the idea of=
open studio.....they want to schedule times for=A0 open studio classes to =
meet.....don't know if they will ever understand....
Celia in VA=20
(NOT the other Celia=A0 ;^)
=0A=0A=0A
Hollis on fri 12 sep 08
At the Art League in Alexandria, Va., when I was first learning to make
pots, there was a group of experienced students, appointed by the
teachers, who oversaw open studio times, mostly on the weekends. If
one of them wasn't there, no one could use the studio. They and the
teachers were supposed to be the only ones who had the combination to
the studio door lock. Of course, that didn't stop the more ambitious
students (like, for example, me ... ) from learning the lock
combination and coming in very early on weekday mornings before our
real jobs to use the studio when no one else was there.
Hollis Engley
Hatchville Pottery
E. Falmouth, MA
hatchvillepottery.blogspot.com
hatchvillepottery.com
On Sep 12, 2008, at 12:33 PM, David McBeth wrote:
> I suppose this is a question mostly for the acadenics on the list but
> I'd be interested n any an all thougts on the topic. We are
> negotiating with the building adminstrator to have the art studios
> opened on the weekends when the building is open. What are the
> policies at your school, or what do you remember from your student
> days about studio access and what kinds of problems have you
> encountered with studio being open on the weekends if that is the
> case?
>
> thanks, and have a good weekend
>
> Dave
>
> David McBeth
> 330 B Gooch Hall
> Department of Visual and Theatre Arts
> University of Tennessee at Martin
> Martin, Tennessee 38238
>
> 731-881-7416
> http://davidmcbeth.blogspot.com
>
Gary Wagoner on fri 12 sep 08
At Auburn, we have card access to the studios. After hours and
weekends the doors lock automatically, and students must swipe their
ID cards to gain entry. This keeps unauthorized people out and makes
the students safer; it also gives us a record of who has been in the
building. We used to have occasional problems with harassment of
students late at night, and theft of student belongings. This system
has pretty much eliminated those issues. Students working after hours
are less likely to clean up after themselves well, but I'm willing to
deal with that to give access. As for safety, we haven't had after
hours problems in Ceramics. The wood shop, welding shop, etc. are
locked down unless the shop tech is there to supervise.
Gary Wagoner
On Sep 12, 2008, at 11:33 AM, David McBeth wrote:
> I suppose this is a question mostly for the acadenics on the list
> but I'd be interested n any an all thougts on the topic. We are
> negotiating with the building adminstrator to have the art studios
> opened on the weekends when the building is open. What are the
> policies at your school, or what do you remember from your student
> days about studio access and what kinds of problems have you
> encountered with studio being open on the weekends if that is the
> case?
>
> thanks, and have a good weekend
>
> Dave
>
> David McBeth
> 330 B Gooch Hall
> Department of Visual and Theatre Arts
> University of Tennessee at Martin
> Martin, Tennessee 38238
>
> 731-881-7416
> http://davidmcbeth.blogspot.com
Lynn Goodman Porcelain Pottery on fri 12 sep 08
I always had 24 hour access in the schools I attended. If I couldn't
get in on nights/weekends, that would definitely be a deterrent to
attending the school. After all, it isn't like ceramic students can
do their work in the library like other students can.
Lynn
On Sep 12, 2008, at 12:33 PM, David McBeth wrote:
> I suppose this is a question mostly for the acadenics on the list
> but I'd be interested n any an all thougts on the topic. We are
> negotiating with the building adminstrator to have the art studios
> opened on the weekends when the building is open. What are the
> policies at your school, or what do you remember from your student
> days about studio access and what kinds of problems have you
> encountered with studio being open on the weekends if that is the
> case?
Lynn Goodman
Fine Porcelain Pottery
Cell 347-526-9805
www.lynngoodmanporcelain.com
Desert Dragon Pottery on fri 12 sep 08
Hey all,
Glad to be back, it's been awhile!
At ASU the facilities are accessible 24/7, the policy since before I attend=
ed in '79-'82.
So good to see everyone's postings!=A0 Really looking forward to NCECA '09 =
here in Phoenix!!!!
Yours in clay, (remember Peggy Heer?)
Mishy Katz=20
http://www.desertdragonpottery.com=20
Mishy@desertdragonpottery.com=20
studio/cell- 602-690-6956=0A=0A=0A
Digital Studio on fri 12 sep 08
I just had a run in with this topic just 2 hours ago. Around 6 tonight,
I walked to the art and design building on campus, went up to the floor
where ceramics is, and it was closed. They have set hours here and
because it's Friday night, they lock the wood shop and ceramics shop.
I'm guessing the logic behind it is that not many students would want
work on their projects on Friday night, which is usually party night
here in Chicago.
At my last college, the whole campus locked at 10 PM. Every building and
all the dorms. You could get in the main buildings if people were there
and would open the doors for you. Ceramics was usually open until 9 and
then locked, but if students were in there, the janitor would lock us in
and we would shut the door when we left.
I think if you wanted to have the studio available 24/7, a type of
keycard that unlocks the ceramics studio would be a good idea.
>
> On Sep 12, 2008, at 12:33 PM, David McBeth wrote:
>
>> I suppose this is a question mostly for the acadenics on the list
>> but I'd be interested n any an all thougts on the topic. We are
>> negotiating with the building adminstrator to have the art studios
>> opened on the weekends when the building is open. What are the
>> policies at your school, or what do you remember from your student
>> days about studio access and what kinds of problems have you
>> encountered with studio being open on the weekends if that is the
>> case?
>
>
> Lynn Goodman
> Fine Porcelain Pottery
> Cell 347-526-9805
> www.lynngoodmanporcelain.com
>
>
Lori Leary on fri 12 sep 08
David,
For what it's worth, when I was in grad school, we were able to use
our student ids (with a magnetic strip) to get in the art building after
hours. We had 24/7 access. At first they did not allow access during
the winter break, ( to save heating costs and give security a break) but
such a fuss was raised, administration relented and made up a list of
people allowed to enter the building during the holidays. We never had
any problems and there was almost always someone in the building during
the off hours. I don't recall any thefts or personal safety issues at all.
I was very grateful to be able to work in the off hours when it was much
quieter. Sometimes a group of us ( non ceramic majors, too!) would get
together and just make pots (not school work) during the off hours. We
would bring snacks, play great music and just hang out and make pots.
We were not able to do that too much because of other deadlines, but it
was really fun and relaxing when we did. But I digress.
Hope this helps,
Lori L.
David McBeth wrote:
> I suppose this is a question mostly for the acadenics on the list but I'd be interested n any an all thougts on the topic. We are negotiating with the building adminstrator to have the art studios opened on the weekends when the building is open. What are the policies at your school, or what do you remember from your student days about studio access and what kinds of problems have you encountered with studio being open on the weekends if that is the case?
>
> thanks, and have a good weekend
>
> Dave
>
> David McBeth
> 330 B Gooch Hall
> Department of Visual and Theatre Arts
> University of Tennessee at Martin
> Martin, Tennessee 38238
>
> 731-881-7416
> http://davidmcbeth.blogspot.com
>
>
>
Mary & Wes Handrow on sat 13 sep 08
When was in art school at the University of Wisconsin in Madison, the
instructors could give you a card that said you could have access 24/7.
Just how lucky we were we didn't find out till later. God help the person
that did something that might lose that for the rest of us because I think
it would have been a slow painful death. You can't fire a kiln in the dorm,
learn to throw pots on the wheel, build large sculptures, blow glass or a
host of other things in your dorm room. Besides as Mel pointed out they do
let you use the library on the weekends, why not studios?
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayart [mailto:CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG] On Behalf Of David McBeth
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 11:34 AM
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Subject: question about studio access
I suppose this is a question mostly for the acadenics on the list but I'd be
interested n any an all thougts on the topic. We are negotiating with the
building adminstrator to have the art studios opened on the weekends when
the building is open. What are the policies at your school, or what do you
remember from your student days about studio access and what kinds of
problems have you encountered with studio being open on the weekends if that
is the case?
thanks, and have a good weekend
Dave
David McBeth
330 B Gooch Hall
Department of Visual and Theatre Arts
University of Tennessee at Martin
Martin, Tennessee 38238
731-881-7416
http://davidmcbeth.blogspot.com
Dannon Rhudy on sat 13 sep 08
> David McBeth wrote:
> > I'd be interested n any an all thougts on the topic. ..
We are negotiating with the building adminstrator to
have the art studios opened on the weekends
. What are the policies at your school, .......
David, when I was a grad student, we had 24/7 access
to the clay studios. We had a key. Some problems
did arise - mostly because undergrads would tape the
door latches so that they could get access after hours.
Often when I had to be there in the small hours, I would
find windows and/or doors fixed so that students could
get in. All very well, but - I would go around and re-lock
everything, if I was the only one there. It was a little
spooky at 3:00 a.m. Also, since the kilns were out in
the kiln yard, and the kiln-yard gate was frequently left
open, for a while we had non-students getting into the
basement to sleep, eat, drink - whatever. Fixed that,
though, and generally there weren't problems. Periodically
we would be lectured re: letting in unauthorized persons.
The university was concerned about safety, because they
had significant liability.
regards
Dannon Rhudy
patsgreenpots on sat 13 sep 08
I think having access to the studios is a must!!! Art students do alot
of work in class and at home but I can imagine a great number of
reasons a student would need or prefer to work in a nice studio.
What eastern did is they would have there advanced students in each
discipline keep there respective labs (studios) open so that those who
wanted access had it. Most of the time they were there working anyway.
A few places had keycard access which was nice. They also payed some
for the students to watch the studios, which I thought was just as
students are generally poor.
As for my undergrad.... I was friends with a few shifty characters so
I just broke in to the studios to do my work. The odd part was
security never hassled me....ever.
--I hope this helps some Mr. McBeth, I look forward to seeing you guys
before too long. Have a good day!!
--Patrick
--- In clayart@yahoogroups.com, David McBeth wrote:
>
> I suppose this is a question mostly for the acadenics on the list
but I'd be interested n any an all thougts on the topic. We are
negotiating with the building adminstrator to have the art studios
opened on the weekends when the building is open. What are the
policies at your school, or what do you remember from your student
days about studio access and what kinds of problems have you
encountered with studio being open on the weekends if that is the case?
>
> thanks, and have a good weekend
>
> Dave
>
> David McBeth
> 330 B Gooch Hall
> Department of Visual and Theatre Arts
> University of Tennessee at Martin
> Martin, Tennessee 38238
>
> 731-881-7416
> http://davidmcbeth.blogspot.com
>
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