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soaking glaze firings-necessary?

updated tue 16 sep 08

 

Paul Gerhold on tue 9 sep 08


I keep reading all these good comments about soaking glaze firings. Come on
all you experts- lets tell the truth. Soaking will help a lot of glazes,
will have no effect on others, and in some cases will hurt the appearance of the
glaze. Having tested all of my cone 4 glazes I know this to be true without
question.

I might also add that for glazes where soaking makes no difference all the
potter is accomplishing is wasting energy and money!

Test, Test Test!!!

Paul



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Dolita Dohrman on tue 9 sep 08


Most of us who soak glazes have done the test, test, test thing that
you talk about and have been able to determine which ones need a fast
fire and which ones are best under slow fire/slow cool conditions.
The truth of which you speak has long been clear to us. Tell us
something we don't know....
Dolita

On Sep 9, 2008, at 10:38 AM, Paul Gerhold wrote:

> I keep reading all these good comments about soaking glaze
> firings. Come on
> all you experts- lets tell the truth. Soaking will help a lot of
> glazes,
> will have no effect on others, and in some cases will hurt the
> appearance of the
> glaze. Having tested all of my cone 4 glazes I know this to be
> true without
> question.
>
> I might also add that for glazes where soaking makes no difference
> all the
> potter is accomplishing is wasting energy and money!
>
> Test, Test Test!!!
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new
> fashion blog,
> plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.
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Paul Gerhold on tue 9 sep 08


Dolita,

I am glad that you know that some glazes do better with fast cooling and
some do better with slow and some don't seem to care.I was responding to a lot
of experts who seem to keep saying that slow cooling is always good. To quote
a recent posting about kiln setters from Ronroy-"Ramping up and down makes
so much sense in terms of getting better glaze results" If "sometimes" were
added I guess the quote would be correct.

By the way-have you tried just firing those glazes that need a hold or slow
cool down a little higher to see if that gives the same result.

Paul



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Dolita Dohrman on tue 9 sep 08


I haven't actually. Mainly because the clay that I am using at
present, Highwater Bella's Blend is really a ^5 clay and I am pushing
it by firing to ^6. Have you found that sometimes a higher temp will
yield the same result? Many times I am going for small crystal
growth and am not sure if merely firing higher will achieve that.
Dolita

On Sep 9, 2008, at 3:05 PM, Paul Gerhold wrote:

> Dolita,
>
> I am glad that you know that some glazes do better with fast
> cooling and
> some do better with slow and some don't seem to care.I was
> responding to a lot
> of experts who seem to keep saying that slow cooling is always
> good. To quote
> a recent posting about kiln setters from Ronroy-"Ramping up and
> down makes
> so much sense in terms of getting better glaze results" If
> "sometimes" were
> added I guess the quote would be correct.
>
> By the way-have you tried just firing those glazes that need a
> hold or slow
> cool down a little higher to see if that gives the same result.
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new
> fashion blog,
> plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.
> (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

Ron Roy on mon 15 sep 08


Hi Paul,

You are right - but the message was - a controller is a much better
solution than a kiln sitter because it can do so much more and is not as
susceptible to catastrophic failure.

RR

>I keep reading all these good comments about soaking glaze firings. Come on
>all you experts- lets tell the truth. Soaking will help a lot of glazes,
>will have no effect on others, and in some cases will hurt the appearance
>of the
>glaze. Having tested all of my cone 4 glazes I know this to be true without
>question.
>
>I might also add that for glazes where soaking makes no difference all the
>potter is accomplishing is wasting energy and money!
>
>Test, Test Test!!!
>
>Paul

Ron Roy
15084 Little Lake Road
Brighton, Ontario
Canada
K0K 1H0

Ron Roy on mon 15 sep 08


Hi again Paul,

Slow cooling and soaking does not result in the same effect as slow
cooling. Slow cooling allows crystals to form - they don't form at the top
of the firing.

Also - soaking and slowing down on the way up and down - at the top of the
firing - is a good way to get more even firings.

Lots of room for adding understanding to this subject - I certainly agree
with that.

RR


>I am glad that you know that some glazes do better with fast cooling and
>some do better with slow and some don't seem to care.I was responding to a lot
>of experts who seem to keep saying that slow cooling is always good. To quote
>a recent posting about kiln setters from Ronroy-"Ramping up and down makes
>so much sense in terms of getting better glaze results" If "sometimes" were
>added I guess the quote would be correct.
>
>By the way-have you tried just firing those glazes that need a hold or slow
>cool down a little higher to see if that gives the same result.
>
>Paul

Ron Roy
15084 Little Lake Road
Brighton, Ontario
Canada
K0K 1H0