Mary Starosta on tue 16 sep 08
Question,I like the "flashing techinque" you get with wood firings,and I
understand that it is a Atomspheric technique. However, I was pondering how
to get this in an electric kiln. Before you go off saying it Can't work no
way, stay with me for a moment. I fire to Cone ^6. That is my choice and
what I have available to me at the moment. My first mentor was Nancy
Utterback, and she is amazing at wood firings,etc. I have learned ALOT from
all the wonderful potters on this list and Potterybasics,etc. Here is my
question, I can come close to FLASHING, in the sense of a black,dull,feels
like flashing on a pot,rough surface and ash-like texture.
http://marystarosta.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/dsc0002108.jpg by combining
a black underglaze with wax resist. I have only used this in carvings but I
was wondering, is there another way? Is there a slip, for electric kiln
firing, that works for this techinque? or another way for me to test this
out in an electric kiln? Any thoughts? Thank you in advance. . .
Mary
Colorado Potter
http://marystarosta.wordpress.com/
Lee Love on tue 16 sep 08
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Mary Starosta wrote:
> a black underglaze with wax resist. I have only used this in carvings but I
> was wondering, is there another way? Is there a slip, for electric kiln
> firing, that works for this techinque? or another way for me to test this
> out in an electric kiln? Any thoughts? Thank you in advance. . .
>
Mary,
The electric kilns in Japan have a different kind of element
(most of them), but they put things on shells with rice hulls under
the pots to get flashing.
I would like to experiment with this in my electric kiln, maybe
with a sagger next to the kiln vent to draw off the atmospherics.
--
Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://heartclay.blogspot.com/
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
http://claycraft.blogspot.com/
"Let the beauty we love be what we do.
There are hundreds of ways to kneel and kiss the ground." --Rumi
Caleb smith on tue 16 sep 08
Hi Mary=2C
There are a few people doing Cone six salt now who seem to get very nice fl=
ashing effects. Basically you need an atmosphere around your work that get=
s masked in certain areas. Thus much of the object reacts to the atmospher=
e and other areas do not- or not to the same degree. I've seen and done so=
me atmosphere saggars in electric kilns as well. Unfortunately atmosphere =
tends to be hard on electric kilns and even saggars let out a little bit th=
at clings to elements and bricks. I believe there was a Cone 6 salt worksh=
op at Carbondale this year=2C maybe you're close enough to visit. =20
Flashing is definitely possible in electrics=2C but be careful or you will =
hurt your kiln. I recommend starting in other peoples atmosphere kilns and=
working your way back to your own electric. Temperature=2C kiln fragility=
and oxidation vs reduction will all be difficulties that require careful p=
lanning for good results.
Best of luck=2C
Caleb
> Date: Tue=2C 16 Sep 2008 07:42:18 -0600
> From: mastarosta@GMAIL.COM
> Subject: Flashing techinque adapted for electric kiln?
> To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
>=20
> Question=2CI like the "flashing techinque" you get with wood firings=2Can=
d I
> understand that it is a Atomspheric technique. However=2C I was ponderin=
g how
> to get this in an electric kiln. Before you go off saying it Can't work =
no
> way=2C stay with me for a moment. I fire to Cone ^6. That is my choice =
and
> what I have available to me at the moment. My first mentor was Nancy
> Utterback=2C and she is amazing at wood firings=2Cetc. I have learned AL=
OT from
> all the wonderful potters on this list and Potterybasics=2Cetc. Here is =
my
> question=2C I can come close to FLASHING=2C in the sense of a black=2Cdul=
l=2Cfeels
> like flashing on a pot=2Crough surface and ash-like texture.
> http://marystarosta.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/dsc0002108.jpg by combini=
ng
> a black underglaze with wax resist. I have only used this in carvings bu=
t I
> was wondering=2C is there another way? Is there a slip=2C for electric k=
iln
> firing=2C that works for this techinque? or another way for me to test t=
his
> out in an electric kiln? Any thoughts? Thank you in advance. . .
> Mary
> Colorado Potter
> http://marystarosta.wordpress.com/
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Lee Love on tue 16 sep 08
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Caleb smith wrote:
> Hi Mary,
> There are a few people doing Cone six salt now who seem to get very nice flashing effects.
Ron Meyers does some wonderful cone 03 salt firing. Very inspiring!
http://tinyurl.com/ron-meyers
--
Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://heartclay.blogspot.com/
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
http://claycraft.blogspot.com/
"Let the beauty we love be what we do.
There are hundreds of ways to kneel and kiss the ground." --Rumi
John Post on tue 16 sep 08
You can try a solution of soda ash over glazes and clay bodies. Boil
some water, let it stop bubbling, start stirring in soda ash until the
solution will absorb no more. Think of it like Kool-aid, you want it
all dissolved in the water. When you add more and see it collecting
undissolved on the bottom of the container, that's when you stop.
Then brush this over glazes and on pot bottoms. I think it looks
better on bodies with some iron in them. You will have to wad your
work or it may stick to kiln shelves, and if you brush it over glazes,
they may become more fluid.
Another thing to try is using glazes that naturally flash onto
surrounding clay areas. These are glazes that are high in fluxes and
low in alumina and silica. Most Ian Currie grids have a few glazes
near corner C that flash.
If you don't know who Ian Currie is, google his name and then order
both his books. They are great and will open many doors to glaze
experimentation for you.
John Post
Sterling Heights, Michigan
:: cone 6 glaze website :: http://www.johnpost.us
:: elementary art website :: http://www.wemakeart.org
On Sep 16, 2008, at 1:58 PM, Lee Love wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Caleb smith
> wrote:
>> Hi Mary,
>> There are a few people doing Cone six salt now who seem to get very
>> nice flashing effects.
>
> Ron Meyers does some wonderful cone 03 salt firing. Very inspiring!
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ron-meyers
>
>
> --
> Lee Love in Minneapolis
> http://heartclay.blogspot.com/
> http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
> http://claycraft.blogspot.com/
>
> "Let the beauty we love be what we do.
> There are hundreds of ways to kneel and kiss the ground." --Rumi
>
Lee Love on tue 16 sep 08
John,
I sometimes use a soda ash solution, but I didn't know how it
would be in relationship to electric elements.
I dip instead of brushing. When dipping, I have had better
sucess with lighter colored clays in wood and soda.
--
Lee Love in Minneapolis
http://heartclay.blogspot.com/
http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
http://claycraft.blogspot.com/
"Let the beauty we love be what we do.
There are hundreds of ways to kneel and kiss the ground." --Rumi
Monica Wright on tue 16 sep 08
This might make some people mad but you could always airbrush oxides on you=
r pots.=A0 Iron oxide, rutile, etc...=A0 Try to fake it.=A0 Just like paint=
ing.=A0 It might be kind of fun.=A0 I have heard of people doing this and e=
ntering their work in shows as wood fired.=A0 Kind of funny if you ask me.=
=A0 Just paint your flashing the way you want it.=A0 Why fire 100 pots and =
get 20 good ones when you can just paint everything perfect?
=A0
-Steve
--- On Tue, 9/16/08, Mary Starosta wrote:
From: Mary Starosta
Subject: Flashing techinque adapted for electric kiln?
To: CLAYART@LSV.CERAMICS.ORG
Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 8:42 AM
Question,I like the "flashing techinque" you get with wood firings,and
I
understand that it is a Atomspheric technique. However, I was pondering ho=
w
to get this in an electric kiln. Before you go off saying it Can't work no
way, stay with me for a moment. I fire to Cone ^6. That is my choice and
what I have available to me at the moment. My first mentor was Nancy
Utterback, and she is amazing at wood firings,etc. I have learned ALOT fro=
m
all the wonderful potters on this list and Potterybasics,etc. Here is my
question, I can come close to FLASHING, in the sense of a black,dull,feels
like flashing on a pot,rough surface and ash-like texture.
http://marystarosta.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/dsc0002108.jpg by combining
a black underglaze with wax resist. I have only used this in carvings but =
I
was wondering, is there another way? Is there a slip, for electric kiln
firing, that works for this techinque? or another way for me to test this
out in an electric kiln? Any thoughts? Thank you in advance. . .
Mary
Colorado Potter
http://marystarosta.wordpress.com/
Fred Hagen on thu 9 oct 08
John,
What clay body are you using for the tomato red and JJ glaze combination? I ran a few pieces in my last kiln and they were very matte with muted and dark colors. I used a tan to stoneware type clay.
thanks Fred Haten --Kalamazoo
Am member of MCAA but have not used their web site for glazes.
---- John Post wrote:
> You can try a solution of soda ash over glazes and clay bodies. Boil
> some water, let it stop bubbling, start stirring in soda ash until the
> solution will absorb no more. Think of it like Kool-aid, you want it
> all dissolved in the water. When you add more and see it collecting
> undissolved on the bottom of the container, that's when you stop.
>
> Then brush this over glazes and on pot bottoms. I think it looks
> better on bodies with some iron in them. You will have to wad your
> work or it may stick to kiln shelves, and if you brush it over glazes,
> they may become more fluid.
>
> Another thing to try is using glazes that naturally flash onto
> surrounding clay areas. These are glazes that are high in fluxes and
> low in alumina and silica. Most Ian Currie grids have a few glazes
> near corner C that flash.
>
> If you don't know who Ian Currie is, google his name and then order
> both his books. They are great and will open many doors to glaze
> experimentation for you.
>
>
> John Post
> Sterling Heights, Michigan
>
> :: cone 6 glaze website :: http://www.johnpost.us
> :: elementary art website :: http://www.wemakeart.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 16, 2008, at 1:58 PM, Lee Love wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Caleb smith
> > wrote:
> >> Hi Mary,
> >> There are a few people doing Cone six salt now who seem to get very
> >> nice flashing effects.
> >
> > Ron Meyers does some wonderful cone 03 salt firing. Very inspiring!
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/ron-meyers
> >
> >
> > --
> > Lee Love in Minneapolis
> > http://heartclay.blogspot.com/
> > http://mashikopots.blogspot.com/
> > http://claycraft.blogspot.com/
> >
> > "Let the beauty we love be what we do.
> > There are hundreds of ways to kneel and kiss the ground." --Rumi
> >
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