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kiln wash/asking questions

updated mon 22 sep 08

 

mel jacobson on sun 21 sep 08


there are several things that make old timers
here on clayart cringe. those simple questions like:
what is pottery?
can i teach my three year old to throw?
what is a kiln?
how do i make glaze?

and, they do make us cringe.
but, we get new folks all the time...brand new
folks. so, we tolerate the questions.

but, vince is correct. if you are just starting out
with ceramics...get a book, read it. take a course
at the local art center.
clayart is not basic ceramics 101.
we hope the professional's on this list have better
things to do than answer baby questions.
and, it does take time and effort. and, often the
one that asks, never reads it...they just move on.

A COUPLE OF COURTESY RULES:
DON'T SIGN UP FOR WORKSHOPS USING THE ENTIRE LIST.
SEND THE REPLY TO THE PERSON. NOT CLAYART.
LEARN TO CUT AND PASTE EMAIL ADDRESS'. DON'T USE
THE LIST FOR EVERYTHING. YOU KNOW, LIKE:
`I WANT A TRIPLE X T-SHIRT AT NECECA.`
ORDER IT FROM THE PERSON SELLING them.

DON'T ASK PERSONAL QUESTIONS USING THE LIST.
LIKE: `HOW YOU DOING VINCE?`

KEEP YOUR PERSONAL PATHOS LIFE AND HEALTH ISSUES OFF THE LIST,
JUST LIKE YOUR POLITICS AND RELIGION.
(A TECH QUESTION ABOUT A ILLNESS IS FINE.)
(over the years we sure have had those that just can't help
themselves...if they can only get that last political jab in...they
know they will change the world. bull. it is so child like.
`what do you mean mel, why don't you understand that the
rap group `kill your mother and rape your neighbor` is a great
group..they have a message....and you will learn to love them.`
my reply:`put that tape on this schools stereo and i will feed
that tape and you into the pug mill.` (actually did that once,
the kid had a tape with about six f-bombs, so i pulled the tape
out of the cassette and burned it with a jewelry torch.
i told him i was going to call his grandmother and tell her what
he was playing...

so, a little courtesy both ways. what you post, and what
you answer. think for two minutes...
use google...it has become the best ceramics archive in the
world.
moderator/mel



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William & Susan Schran User on sun 21 sep 08


On 9/21/08 8:27 AM, "mel jacobson" wrote:

> there are several things that make old timers
> here on clayart cringe. those simple questions like:
> what is pottery?
> can i teach my three year old to throw?
> what is a kiln?
> how do i make glaze?
Us teachers don't cringe as we have students asking us this stuff all the
time. All I do when a student asks me something that seems to me to be
simple common sense, I just remember back when I started out and asked: "Why
couldn't you glaze and fire a pot, then apply glaze to the foot and fire it
again, upside down to have glaze on the whole pot?" I just remember back
when I was ignorant. When I get tired of answering questions, it will be
time to hang up the teaching clothes.
>
> and, they do make us cringe.
> but, we get new folks all the time...brand new
> folks. so, we tolerate the questions.
If you cringe and can't tolerate anymore, it's a very short trip to the
delete button. Why would you waste your time responding by telling somebody
how stupid the question is? Why the heck are you wasting time doing this?
>
> but, vince is correct. if you are just starting out
> with ceramics...get a book, read it. take a course
> at the local art center.
> clayart is not basic ceramics 101.
> we hope the professional's on this list have better
> things to do than answer baby questions.
> and, it does take time and effort. and, often the
> one that asks, never reads it...they just move on.
Too many possible answers as to why anybody would not just buy a book, go
online, but we know when folks find Clayart many feel they have found their
ceramic salvation. It's so easy, just ask the question. No research, no
thought, no thinking, just: "I need to know this so tell me!" - just like
many beginning students...

Bill

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William "Bill" Schran
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wschran@nvcc.edu
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