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artista wheel knocking / next size up?

updated mon 29 sep 08

 

The Fuzzy Chef on sat 27 sep 08


Keba,

> 1. My Artista started making a knocking noise a few weeks ago - this is my
> travel/show wheel. I took it apart, checked the innards, and apart from
> being grooved from the pin it rotates around, the belt looks/feels fine, and
> there is no other obvious issue. How does one remove the wheelhead? I've
> had no success finding instructions on-line, and Artista is closed today.
> Or is there another culprit to the noise?

My thought would be, turn it on with the bottom off, and listen closely
until you can find the location of the noise. Having it on real slow
might help.

> 2. I'm looking at upgrading from the Artista at some point and I know the
> debate has raged about Brent/Shimpo/etc. as good wheels. Since this will be
> a travelling wheel, I don't want to get too heavy, but of course want a
> sturdy wheel that can be adjusted for level if my booth is on the sloping
> side of the parking lot. Is it as simple as "if I can't lift it, it's too
> big of a wheel"?

I don't have any particular reason to believe that the Shimpo Aspire is
any more sturdy/powerful than the Artista. The Shimpo VL and/or Brent
IE *should* be, but I haven't thrown on either of these wheels. I think
you really want to find a pottery shop with a showroom so that you can
try them out, as well as try lifting them. Either of them are double
the weight of the Artista.

Sorry I couldn't be more help,
Fuzzy Ceramicist

Keba M Hitzeman on sat 27 sep 08


Two questions for the gurus, if you please (or point me to the correct
search terms for the archives!):



1. My Artista started making a knocking noise a few weeks ago - this is my
travel/show wheel. I took it apart, checked the innards, and apart from
being grooved from the pin it rotates around, the belt looks/feels fine, and
there is no other obvious issue. How does one remove the wheelhead? I've
had no success finding instructions on-line, and Artista is closed today.
Or is there another culprit to the noise?



2. I'm looking at upgrading from the Artista at some point and I know the
debate has raged about Brent/Shimpo/etc. as good wheels. Since this will be
a travelling wheel, I don't want to get too heavy, but of course want a
sturdy wheel that can be adjusted for level if my booth is on the sloping
side of the parking lot. Is it as simple as "if I can't lift it, it's too
big of a wheel"?





Thanks for the help!



Keba









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Dayton OH



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W J Seidl on sat 27 sep 08


Keba:
This might sound ridiculous, but the solution is one I tried in desperation
with a Brent wheel, and it worked for me. Here's a little
troubleshooting chart:

Take the belt off, being careful to note the _horizontal_positioning_
when you do
(think of a doughnut, imagine the belt as a doughnut).

Flip the belt over and reinstall it. Does the noise go away? Change in
pitch or volume?
V
V
Yes? Then it's the belt. Get a new one. No? Then it's not the
belt. (It's more likely a bearing, either dirty or worn.)

V
Maybe?>> Do you feel any vibration being transmitted from the knocking
noise to your hand
when you place it on the (gently) rotating wheel head?
V V
No? See above. Yes? Can you lift or move the
wheel head more than slightly up and down or side to side? >> Excessive
play in a bearing.

First, of course, check to see if there is anything stuck under the
wheel head, such as a lump of dried clay or a tool.

Best,
Wayne Seidl

Keba M Hitzeman wrote:
> Two questions for the gurus, if you please (or point me to the correct
> search terms for the archives!):
>
>
>
> 1. My Artista started making a knocking noise a few weeks ago - this is my
> travel/show wheel. I took it apart, checked the innards, and apart from
> being grooved from the pin it rotates around, the belt looks/feels fine, and
> there is no other obvious issue. How does one remove the wheelhead? I've
> had no success finding instructions on-line, and Artista is closed today.
> Or is there another culprit to the noise?
>
>
>
> 2. I'm looking at upgrading from the Artista at some point and I know the
> debate has raged about Brent/Shimpo/etc. as good wheels. Since this will be
> a travelling wheel, I don't want to get too heavy, but of course want a
> sturdy wheel that can be adjusted for level if my booth is on the sloping
> side of the parking lot. Is it as simple as "if I can't lift it, it's too
> big of a wheel"?
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for the help!
>
>
>
> Keba
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
> ====================================
>
>
>
> Keba Hitzeman
>
> Dayton OH
>
>
>
> Spanish - http://keba.hitzeman.com
>
> Clay -
> http://yellowroomarts.blogspot.com,
> http://yellowroomarts.etsy.com
>
> Coffee - coffee@enigma22.com
>
>
>
> People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand
> ready to do violence on their behalf.
> George Orwell
>
>

John Post on sun 28 sep 08


I had a Brent IE. It is small and portable. Easy to pick up and
place in the bed of my truck. Great for little kids because they can
get in close to their work.

I also have a Bailey ST wheel in my studio. It's also portable but
because of the shape of the pan, it's not as easy to pick up and move
as the Brent. But it still could work as a portable wheel.

I was planning on using the Bailey for white clays in my studio and
the Brent for iron clays, but the Brent is noisier than the Bailey and
it drove me nuts throwing on it. The motor noise might not be a big
deal if you are using it at outdoor fairs.

The Bailey is whisper quiet. The quietest wheel I have ever used and
it runs like a champ.

So I traded the Brent with another teacher for an old treadle wheel...
it's fun throwing on that big ol' slow wheel.

John Post
Sterling Heights, Michigan

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