mel jacobson on sat 27 sep 08
we have had more posts on floating blue than any
other glaze in clayart history.
several things to think about:
all rutile glazes are mavericks.
do not depend on them...and a repeat is
hard to do.
they give wonderful, exciting results and then
will fail miserably.
if you are a gridder, and careful glazer and
fussssy as hell....maverick glazes will drive you nuts.
for folks like me, casual, love runny glazes...let the
glaze be itself...it is a dream.
i have used rutile for years.
we did not use any rutile during the tests for the
iron saga project...the chinese did not have it a thousand
years ago...only iron. if you want hare's fur, just use
rutile.
mel
from minnetonka:
website http://www.visi.com/~melpots/
clayart site:
http://www.visi.com/~melpots/clayart.html
jean szostek on sat 27 sep 08
hi mel,
thank you for the message, is surely will experiment mutch whit rutile , and
i dont care if its runny, i work already tree years with a copper red that
is runny as hell
after few months i managed how to stop it, but the consequences are less
beautifulle colors
so i presume that it is also like it with the runny rutile
i like challenges
thank you and greatings jean
----- Original Message -----
From: "mel jacobson"
To:
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 4:35 PM
Subject: floating blue and rutile
> we have had more posts on floating blue than any
> other glaze in clayart history.
>
> several things to think about:
> all rutile glazes are mavericks.
> do not depend on them...and a repeat is
> hard to do.
> they give wonderful, exciting results and then
> will fail miserably.
>
> if you are a gridder, and careful glazer and
> fussssy as hell....maverick glazes will drive you nuts.
>
> for folks like me, casual, love runny glazes...let the
> glaze be itself...it is a dream.
> i have used rutile for years.
>
> we did not use any rutile during the tests for the
> iron saga project...the chinese did not have it a thousand
> years ago...only iron. if you want hare's fur, just use
> rutile.
> mel
> from minnetonka:
> website http://www.visi.com/~melpots/
> clayart site:
> http://www.visi.com/~melpots/clayart.html
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18:55
John Rodgers on sun 28 sep 08
Jean,
How floating blue performs will depend a great deal on the clay body you
use. I use laguna Cone 5 B-mix. For me, Chappells Floating Blue, when
fired to a cone 5 oxidation in an electric kiln - will not run. If fired
to cone 6 it can run off the pot So for me the best firing is cone 5 to
cone 5-1/2.
Regards,
John Rodgers
Chelsea, AL
jean szostek wrote:
> hi mel,
> thank you for the message, is surely will experiment mutch whit rutile
> , and
> i dont care if its runny, i work already tree years with a copper red
> that
> is runny as hell
> after few months i managed how to stop it, but the consequences are less
> beautifulle colors
> so i presume that it is also like it with the runny rutile
> i like challenges
> thank you and greatings jean
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mel jacobson"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 4:35 PM
> Subject: floating blue and rutile
>
>
>> we have had more posts on floating blue than any
>> other glaze in clayart history.
>>
>> several things to think about:
>> all rutile glazes are mavericks.
>> do not depend on them...and a repeat is
>> hard to do.
>> they give wonderful, exciting results and then
>> will fail miserably.
>>
>> if you are a gridder, and careful glazer and
>> fussssy as hell....maverick glazes will drive you nuts.
>>
>> for folks like me, casual, love runny glazes...let the
>> glaze be itself...it is a dream.
>> i have used rutile for years.
>>
>> we did not use any rutile during the tests for the
>> iron saga project...the chinese did not have it a thousand
>> years ago...only iron. if you want hare's fur, just use
>> rutile.
>> mel
>> from minnetonka:
>> website http://www.visi.com/~melpots/
>> clayart site:
>> http://www.visi.com/~melpots/clayart.html
>
>
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jean szostek on mon 29 sep 08
hi john,
i already knew, i was looking at wiki for the explanation about rutile and
titanium
ik have still one question, you saying that you use laguna cone 5Bmix, do
you now the composition of that clay, i normaly use a westerwald, witch
sometine i enclose some grog, surely for the big pieces
thanks for the reply greatings jean
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Rodgers"
To:
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: floating blue and rutile
> Jean,
>
> How floating blue performs will depend a great deal on the clay body you
> use. I use laguna Cone 5 B-mix. For me, Chappells Floating Blue, when
> fired to a cone 5 oxidation in an electric kiln - will not run. If fired
> to cone 6 it can run off the pot So for me the best firing is cone 5 to
> cone 5-1/2.
>
> Regards,
>
> John Rodgers
> Chelsea, AL
>
> jean szostek wrote:
>> hi mel,
>> thank you for the message, is surely will experiment mutch whit rutile
>> , and
>> i dont care if its runny, i work already tree years with a copper red
>> that
>> is runny as hell
>> after few months i managed how to stop it, but the consequences are less
>> beautifulle colors
>> so i presume that it is also like it with the runny rutile
>> i like challenges
>> thank you and greatings jean
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "mel jacobson"
>> To:
>> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 4:35 PM
>> Subject: floating blue and rutile
>>
>>
>>> we have had more posts on floating blue than any
>>> other glaze in clayart history.
>>>
>>> several things to think about:
>>> all rutile glazes are mavericks.
>>> do not depend on them...and a repeat is
>>> hard to do.
>>> they give wonderful, exciting results and then
>>> will fail miserably.
>>>
>>> if you are a gridder, and careful glazer and
>>> fussssy as hell....maverick glazes will drive you nuts.
>>>
>>> for folks like me, casual, love runny glazes...let the
>>> glaze be itself...it is a dream.
>>> i have used rutile for years.
>>>
>>> we did not use any rutile during the tests for the
>>> iron saga project...the chinese did not have it a thousand
>>> years ago...only iron. if you want hare's fur, just use
>>> rutile.
>>> mel
>>> from minnetonka:
>>> website http://www.visi.com/~melpots/
>>> clayart site:
>>> http://www.visi.com/~melpots/clayart.html
>>
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13:11
John Rodgers on wed 1 oct 08
Jean,
Regrettably, I do not know the ingredients in the C5 B-mix. It is
procelainous in nature, but seems lacking in the amount of quartz
required to make it true porcelain. Laguna features it as a white
stoneware with porcelainous qualities.
Hope this helps,
Regards,
John Rodgers
Chelsea, AL
jean szostek wrote:
> hi john,
> i already knew, i was looking at wiki for the explanation about rutile
> and
> titanium
> ik have still one question, you saying that you use laguna cone 5Bmix, do
> you now the composition of that clay, i normaly use a westerwald, witch
> sometine i enclose some grog, surely for the big pieces
> thanks for the reply greatings jean
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Rodgers"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 9:57 AM
> Subject: Re: floating blue and rutile
>
>
>> Jean,
>>
>> How floating blue performs will depend a great deal on the clay body you
>> use. I use laguna Cone 5 B-mix. For me, Chappells Floating Blue, when
>> fired to a cone 5 oxidation in an electric kiln - will not run. If fired
>> to cone 6 it can run off the pot So for me the best firing is cone 5 to
>> cone 5-1/2.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> John Rodgers
>> Chelsea, AL
>>
>> jean szostek wrote:
>>> hi mel,
>>> thank you for the message, is surely will experiment mutch whit rutile
>>> , and
>>> i dont care if its runny, i work already tree years with a copper red
>>> that
>>> is runny as hell
>>> after few months i managed how to stop it, but the consequences are
>>> less
>>> beautifulle colors
>>> so i presume that it is also like it with the runny rutile
>>> i like challenges
>>> thank you and greatings jean
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "mel jacobson"
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 4:35 PM
>>> Subject: floating blue and rutile
>>>
>>>
>>>> we have had more posts on floating blue than any
>>>> other glaze in clayart history.
>>>>
>>>> several things to think about:
>>>> all rutile glazes are mavericks.
>>>> do not depend on them...and a repeat is
>>>> hard to do.
>>>> they give wonderful, exciting results and then
>>>> will fail miserably.
>>>>
>>>> if you are a gridder, and careful glazer and
>>>> fussssy as hell....maverick glazes will drive you nuts.
>>>>
>>>> for folks like me, casual, love runny glazes...let the
>>>> glaze be itself...it is a dream.
>>>> i have used rutile for years.
>>>>
>>>> we did not use any rutile during the tests for the
>>>> iron saga project...the chinese did not have it a thousand
>>>> years ago...only iron. if you want hare's fur, just use
>>>> rutile.
>>>> mel
>>>> from minnetonka:
>>>> website http://www.visi.com/~melpots/
>>>> clayart site:
>>>> http://www.visi.com/~melpots/clayart.html
>>>
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